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Arguing over who has a right to a parcel of land? It is to laugh. Nobody has claim over it. We'll all be dead and it will outlast us all, maybe aliens will land there some day and claim it since it's so holy. They wouldn't know the difference between a Jew and an Arab anyway.

By that same token, anyone who wants it has claim to it. There is no "right" to it. Those of you citing history seem to forget that people tend to take land from people. If it's about who was around in 1812 BC or whatever, then we might as well give America back too.

Finally, who cares where the embassy is? Why does Trump or Europe have to "deal" with these countries at all? That hasn't gotten us anywhere good in the past.
 

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Arguing over who has a right to a parcel of land? It is to laugh. Nobody has claim over it. We'll all be dead and it will outlast us all, maybe aliens will land there some day and claim it since it's so holy. They wouldn't know the difference between a Jew and an Arab anyway.

By that same token, anyone who wants it has claim to it. There is no "right" to it. Those of you citing history seem to forget that people tend to take land from people. If it's about who was around in 1812 BC or whatever, then we might as well give America back too.

Finally, who cares where the embassy is? Why does Trump or Europe have to "deal" with these countries at all? That hasn't gotten us anywhere good in the past.
Wrong... Israel is the only country in the world that God actually laid down the borders and gave it to a people..the Jews have a divine landlord..:up:
 

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Arguing over who has a right to a parcel of land? It is to laugh. Nobody has claim over it. We'll all be dead and it will outlast us all, maybe aliens will land there some day and claim it since it's so holy. They wouldn't know the difference between a Jew and an Arab anyway.

By that same token, anyone who wants it has claim to it. There is no "right" to it. Those of you citing history seem to forget that people tend to take land from people. If it's about who was around in 1812 BC or whatever, then we might as well give America back too.

Finally, who cares where the embassy is? Why does Trump or Europe have to "deal" with these countries at all? That hasn't gotten us anywhere good in the past.
As they say, possession is 9/10s of the law. It's undeniable that the Palestinians were dispossessed.

Also, there are cultural realities that transcend the mere individual.
 

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Wrong... Israel is the only country in the world that God actually laid down the borders and gave it to a people..the Jews have a divine landlord..:up:
You certainly hv a flair for words lol
 

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There is a whole category of Jews called Ashkenazi. As usual, the USAGE of this term outside Judaism is entirely different from its meaning.

What that word actually means is “A Jew who is descended from non-Jews.” The entire population of Khazars, which may now constitute a majority of Jews, is descended from the Khazar kingdom which converted to Judaism many centuries ago.

If you take an advanced literature course, you will read that Franz Kafka’s short story, “Metamorphasis” is the essence of JEWISH thought.

Actually Franz Kafka WAS a Jew, but he was the descendant of recent CONVERTS to Judaism. The author of the epitome of Jewish thought was Ashkenazi.

Here is how that happened: Franz Kafka’s ancestors had been part of a pre-Lutheran Protestant rebellion against the Catholic Church in what is now the Czech Republic, then Bohemia.

The pope gave John Huss a free pass to come talk to Catholic authorities, who then burned him alive. Oddly enough, the Hussites did not LIKE the Catholic Church much. Finally, after years of total war, the Hussites were crushed.

This was before there were any Protestant countries, so the surviving followers of Huss were given a choice of two choices. Catholic Europe burned anyone alive who not either 1) Catholic, or 2) a Jew.

I repeat Huss’s ancestors did not like the Catholic Church much. So they chose to JEWS instead.

As a result the prime example of Jewish literature had no GENETIC relationship whatever to the Old Testament Jews Robertson and Falwell worship.

So when someone digs into the Old Testament or into a Great Conspiracy to determine what Jews are, he ignores the simple fact that Jews today are the product of two thousand years of people BECOMING Jews and people assimilating into the non-Jewish population.

In every single generation for two thousand years and more, Jews have been leaving Judaism and gentiles have been converting to Judaism. Despite what you are told, there is nothing new about this.

Let’s look back to the Hussites, Franz Kafka’s forebears. They AND the whole Khazar kingdom came INTO Judaism, but the total population of Jews over time remained about the same.

A lot of Jews DISAPPEARED, just as they did under the Third Reich. So I have to say all the other Jews were murdered or go to prison in Europe for a minimum two-year sentence, right?

Well, no. Historians are allowed to point out that while there were huge conversions INTO Judaism, Jews had a lot of pressure on them to convert into the religion followed by the surrounding goyim, non-Jews.

Unlike every other population, be they heretics like the Hussites or our own ancestor who were Odinist or Druid, they were allowed to stay ALIVE in “Christian” countries if they were Jews.

But in every country, Moslem, Catholic or Protestant, the pressure was on for two thousand years for them to convert to the ruling faith.

A reminder: People who are burned alive don’t reproduce. Remember, if you were tried to be Moslem in a Christian country, you were burned alive.

If you tried to be a Protestant in a Catholic country you were burned alive. If you tried to be a Catholic in a Protestant country, you were usually hanged instead of burned.

Being hanged hurts less. But the genetic result is much the same.

So what we call “Jews” today generally contains some of the old semitic genes, but its behavior is the result of two thousand years of concentrated genetic change.

For two thousand years, those who fitted into the population around them have steadily assimilated into the surrounding goyim. For two thousand years, those who were hostile to the society around them have converted INTO Judaism.

In our society, the hostile group we call Jews is entirely the product of “Christianity.” The Jews constitute a genetically hostile gene pool which has been the natural product of this weird twist in what calls itself “Christianity.”

“Christianity” created Jews.
 

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Oh you who believe! Truly the polytheists are unclean; so let them not, after this year, approach the Sacred Mosque” Quran 9:28. <
It means they can’t worship another God when near the Kaaba. Cherry pick another verse. I dare you.
 

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There is a whole category of Jews called Ashkenazi. As usual, the USAGE of this term outside Judaism is entirely different from its meaning.

What that word actually means is “A Jew who is descended from non-Jews.” The entire population of Khazars, which may now constitute a majority of Jews, is descended from the Khazar kingdom which converted to Judaism many centuries ago.

If you take an advanced literature course, you will read that Franz Kafka’s short story, “Metamorphasis” is the essence of JEWISH thought.

Actually Franz Kafka WAS a Jew, but he was the descendant of recent CONVERTS to Judaism. The author of the epitome of Jewish thought was Ashkenazi.

Here is how that happened: Franz Kafka’s ancestors had been part of a pre-Lutheran Protestant rebellion against the Catholic Church in what is now the Czech Republic, then Bohemia.

The pope gave John Huss a free pass to come talk to Catholic authorities, who then burned him alive. Oddly enough, the Hussites did not LIKE the Catholic Church much. Finally, after years of total war, the Hussites were crushed.

This was before there were any Protestant countries, so the surviving followers of Huss were given a choice of two choices. Catholic Europe burned anyone alive who not either 1) Catholic, or 2) a Jew.

I repeat Huss’s ancestors did not like the Catholic Church much. So they chose to JEWS instead.

As a result the prime example of Jewish literature had no GENETIC relationship whatever to the Old Testament Jews Robertson and Falwell worship.

So when someone digs into the Old Testament or into a Great Conspiracy to determine what Jews are, he ignores the simple fact that Jews today are the product of two thousand years of people BECOMING Jews and people assimilating into the non-Jewish population.

In every single generation for two thousand years and more, Jews have been leaving Judaism and gentiles have been converting to Judaism. Despite what you are told, there is nothing new about this.

Let’s look back to the Hussites, Franz Kafka’s forebears. They AND the whole Khazar kingdom came INTO Judaism, but the total population of Jews over time remained about the same.

A lot of Jews DISAPPEARED, just as they did under the Third Reich. So I have to say all the other Jews were murdered or go to prison in Europe for a minimum two-year sentence, right?

Well, no. Historians are allowed to point out that while there were huge conversions INTO Judaism, Jews had a lot of pressure on them to convert into the religion followed by the surrounding goyim, non-Jews.

Unlike every other population, be they heretics like the Hussites or our own ancestor who were Odinist or Druid, they were allowed to stay ALIVE in “Christian” countries if they were Jews.

But in every country, Moslem, Catholic or Protestant, the pressure was on for two thousand years for them to convert to the ruling faith.

A reminder: People who are burned alive don’t reproduce. Remember, if you were tried to be Moslem in a Christian country, you were burned alive.

If you tried to be a Protestant in a Catholic country you were burned alive. If you tried to be a Catholic in a Protestant country, you were usually hanged instead of burned.

Being hanged hurts less. But the genetic result is much the same.

So what we call “Jews” today generally contains some of the old semitic genes, but its behavior is the result of two thousand years of concentrated genetic change.

For two thousand years, those who fitted into the population around them have steadily assimilated into the surrounding goyim. For two thousand years, those who were hostile to the society around them have converted INTO Judaism.

In our society, the hostile group we call Jews is entirely the product of “Christianity.” The Jews constitute a genetically hostile gene pool which has been the natural product of this weird twist in what calls itself “Christianity.”

“Christianity” created Jews.
Don't forget to add in the commingling of DNA by neanderthal and human breeding.

Add in a dose of denisovan DNA to further spice things up.

Anyhow it's the Africans who has the "pure" lineage.

Can't say much about religion, belief systems is not fact and as such can be disputed at anytime.
 

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Wrong... Israel is the only country in the world that God actually laid down the borders and gave it to a people..the Jews have a divine landlord..:up:
They only accepted the deal because the price God offered was wholesale.
 

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Wrong... Israel is the only country in the world that God actually laid down the borders and gave it to a people..the Jews have a divine landlord..:up:
It depends on who you ask. Christians and Muslims believe that they’re cursed because they disobeyed God.
They only accepted the deal because the price God offered was wholesale.
Dude, they tried to kill Jesus because he was like ‘peace and love for everyone and then all of us can chill in heaven’ and the Jews were like ‘hell no, we are the chosen people so therefore only we can go to heaven’ and Jesus was like ‘nah peeps, we can spread the message to EVERYONE and that way ALL of us can can feel happy and stuff’ and they were like ‘no! only us!’ And Jesus was like ‘nah man that’s just how the rules are, anyone can go to heaven you know? You just gotta believe in God’ and the Jews got all pissed that some other people could go to heaven besides them and basically tried to kill Jesus. They’re just a bunch of salty bastards lol
 

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Discussions surrounding Abrahamic religions is almost always an never ending story.

Almost.
 

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It depends on who you ask. Christians and Muslims believe that they’re cursed because they disobeyed God.
Who cares what Muslims think they are a bunch of pagans and NOT an Abrahamic religion,When God chose to put on a human suit and come to Earth he came as a Jew.(the whole bible was written by Jews and is the only holy book on the planet)..when God speaks he does it through the Jews.
 

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Who cares what Muslims think they are a bunch of pagans and NOT an Abrahamic religion,When God chose to put on a human suit and come to Earth he came as a Jew.(the whole bible was written by Jews and is the only holy book on the planet)..when God speaks he does it through the Jews.
Any religion that claims linkage to the prophet Abraham is considered an Abrahamic religion.

Muslims considers Mohammed to be the descendant of Ishmael, an illegitimate son of Abraham.

Whilst Christians considers Jesus to be the descendant of Isaac.
 

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Any religion that claims linkage to the prophet Abraham is considered an Abrahamic religion.

Muslims considers Mohammed to be the descendant of Ishmael, an illegitimate son of Abraham.

Whilst Christians considers Jesus to be the descendant of Isaac.
Wrong...Abraham worshipped the one true God,Muslims are pagans and worship a false God.ALL true believers in God are Abrahams "spiritual" offspring (Jews and Christians) there is a huge difference between a genetic offspring and a spiritual one.Muslims are NOT the spiritual offspring of Abraham but Jews and Christians are.Also the Quran is not a divinely inspired holy book like the Bible is.
 

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I fail to understand how or why Christians are instructed to be such big fans of Jews, as if they are any better than any other non-Christians. The Messianic Phophecy is in the Old Testament, and therefore Jewish by definition. Modern Jews are still waiting for Jesus, because they do not believe the Messiah was Jesus of Nazareth. Curiously, Muslim doctrine holds that Moses, Jesus of Nazareth, and Mohammed were all prophets of God. So Muslims believe in Jesus, and the Jews don't. There is some sh!t you'll never see on tv, when the military industrial complex is selling us their latest holy war.
 

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If memory serves me right, Christians were the biggest prosecutors of Jews....

However it was also Christians who returned Israel/Jerusalem to the Jews, perhaps Harry Truman thought he was fulfilling a biblical prophecy and acted on it ?
 

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I fail to understand how or why Christians are instructed to be such big fans of Jews, as if they are any better than any other non-Christians. The Messianic Phophecy is in the Old Testament, and therefore Jewish by definition. Modern Jews are still waiting for Jesus, because they do not believe the Messiah was Jesus of Nazareth. Curiously, Muslim doctrine holds that Moses, Jesus of Nazareth, and Mohammed were all prophets of God. So Muslims believe in Jesus, and the Jews don't. There is some sh!t you'll never see on tv, when the military industrial complex is selling us their latest holy war.
Interesting point. I myself never understood why some Christians are so anti-Semitic, since Jesus Christ was a Jew.

On the other hand, why are so many Christians against capital punishment? They wouldn't have a religion without it.
 
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