No guys this isn't another 'Look at me, I'm so hot I bag all kinds of ass why are you all such pussies' post. I think there are already more of those here than needed but thats just me. I'm more like most of you reading the tips section. I'm just taking my first steps into the world of becomming a ladykiller. It's only been in the last couple of months that I started coming here and using all the tips and talking to girls and stuff. I'm not thin, I'm not pretty. I have a crummy job and after my breakup a couple of years ago I had to move back in with my mom so I could have the money I need to go to school full time and pay the (outrageous) child-support I have to pay every month. Not the greatest dating material right? Well to top it all off I have been a chronic niceguy for my whole life. SO when I decided on that fateful day that enough was enough. After I had just gotten burned by a stupid girl who had nothnig better to do than try to humiliate my even more I expected it to be tough. I expected rejection, humiliation, frustration, lack of success. But damnit I pictured that sorry little *****e's face and the way she had played me the fool and how that felt, and I saw red. I saw that no matter what I was going to have to go through, no matter how many times I got led on, shot down, ignored, ridiculed ect.. that by god I was going to show that ho, and everyone else, and myself... that I AM BETTER THAN THAT! SO I started, with my heart pounding and a lump in my throat, to talk to women. At first I was only talking, I never asked them out. I found this site and started reading. I read and read and read. I decided that a new wardrobe would help and I bougth some nice cologne. and I started asking for numbers. I knew the whole time of course that I was going to get throughtly trounced and prolly only get 1 number for every 20 or 30 girls I asked. I would never ask a girl if anyone else was around. I didnt want other people to see my pathetic effort and the denial that would surely come from it. But you know what? It wasn't that bad. when I finally got up the nerve and started asking sur there were times I got turned down. but more often than not I DIDN'T get turned down. And when I did it wasn't as bad as I thought it would be. now, a couple of months into it, the approach doesnt worry me that much. Beleive me, the REAL challenge starts after you get teh number. Rigth now I'm still in a big learning curve there (meaning I don't do so hot!) but if I could learn the approach, i can learn the rest. So all you fence-sitters out there, I hope you decide to stand up, get off the fence and start playing the game. Use the tips here on this forum and you wont go wrong. Take it from a guy like you... It's really not that bad!