is it supposed to be this hard?

[wiggadude]

I'm looking at myself and at the people on this board, and I'm seeing that getting a girlfriend is apparently a huge effort.

I mean people here are in weeklong BOOTCAMP, then try for months asking girls out EVERYWHERE just to get a serious girlfriend.

Come on. Everyone I know who has a girlfriend just "met" her. There was no desperate months-long search. No desperate bootcamp. No message boards.

They just met.

We're doing something wrong here. All of us. I'm at 25 still with no gf and I'm just not sure if this is the right approach guys.

IF IT'S HARD THEN YOU ARE DOING IT WRONG. IT SHOULD BE DEAD SIMPLE. LOOK AROUND -- EVERY MORON HAS A GIRLFRIEND.

 

[PeeGee]

lol...

Okay I tried your method once -- just met a friend after a long time, accidentally played the "unneedy/don't need you/independent" card, got her attracted to me, then added the "I'm about to date this other girl" jealousy artificial interest motivator...blah blah blah. And it was all geniune as well.

basically I did everything except test her character, and while it appeared as if we "just met" and dated (more or less anyway), it was a nightmare -- she was loud, obnoxious, ungiving, etc etc.

The point of DJing among other things is to determine from the get-go whether women are worth dating. And perhaps your issue lies in the idea that what the bible teaches us leads us to have higher expectations than other guys.

For example women who complain about daily things don't stand a chance with me. That's a huge majority right there. Just fill in the rest.

 

[Joe The Homophobe]

DJ training is not just about getting a gf, it is about improving yourself, your confidence, self steem and lots more.

 

[jakeyboy]

Originally posted by wiggadude
IF IT'S HARD THEN YOU ARE DOING IT WRONG. IT SHOULD BE DEAD SIMPLE. LOOK AROUND -- EVERY MORON HAS A GIRLFRIEND.

why do you need a girlfriend?

you cant force women to love you. its supposed to happen naturally. there isn't any scientific formula that makes women fall in love with you instantly.

so what if every moron has a girlfriend? its not all that fun mate. i have loads of friends complaining to me about their partners all the time...

maybe you're too focused on trying to attain a girlfriend (your sole motive in meeting chicks) you should relax, get that idea out of your head for abit and focus on havin fun instead. surely in due time some girl that you have a connection with will come along.. and you'll have a blast with her.

all the best

 

[I-am-someone]

Okay. Wiggadude, you need to understand the basics of the DJ.
The DJ does not need women in his life. He can have them, but he can also live without them.

For the last few weeks I've been trying to pick up girls. I've been putting my attention onto the girls. I have not had less success with women at any other time in my life. Sure, this was a phase, I learned a lot of things (fearless approaching!), but I realized that I had to move on. I've been reading "7 Habits of Highly Effective Teens" based on "7 Habits of Highly Effective People." This book is quite inspiring to making yourself become better, instead of becoming better at making other people like you.

Essentially, that's what a lot of people on here are doing. They are training their game with women. This is a good thing, but it should not be your only goal! You should diversify your life doing the things you like doing.

Only last night, I took all my focus off of girls and started thinking about school and work. However, I had gained the immense power of not fearing approaching, so I just sat next to a girl and started talking to her like it was nothing. Instead of acting like I did before, like I had to gain their approval I now had them wanting to gain my approval.
The girl that made me come to this board was also there. I didn't spend any time on her, she was the least of my worries. I remember looking at her sitting at the end of the table looking quite frustrated, don't know why but I wouldn't be surprised if it had something to do with me.

Anyway, be sure to keep your life diverse. Also, read those books I listed. They made a lot of things clear about life that isn't really clarified on these boards.

 

[Alpine]

Any idiot can get a fat ugly pig of a GF. So long as you take her sh1t as well chumpy boy.

A DJ in the making may start off with not being able to get a GF, but rapidly raises the standard in a new environment of percieved abundance.

BTW I am someone is right. Steven Covey has done some excellent work in seven habits and first things first, every home should have a copy.

 

[MindOverMatter]

If you wanna get lots of numbers / dates, the DJ bootcamp is for you.

However, I think the DJ system / bible is counterproductive if you want to get a girl to want to have a LTR with you. It makes you play way too many games (phone waiting, short conversations, being a mystery, I can go on and on...).

Whatever game you play with her, she will play back at ya. Because of this, you will never get the trust needed to build a solid LTR, and will go through series of short term relationships at best.

And I'm probably gonna get castrated for saying this sh!t here, but in a LTR, there will be a few moments when you will need to be a bit of an AFC, and if you follow the bible word for word, you will miss these and turn the girl off at the idea of having a LTR with you.

Also, the girl in question must be the type that wants a LTR. You wont meet many of those in clubs.

 

[Double]

Whatever game you play with her, she will play back at ya

hmm I tend to disagree with that point. If you spit SOME game at the beginning and she is interested, than you don't have to chase her and she will make things easy/chase you. but than you have to stop playing heavy games or you the player will got played.

maybe I am wrong and these girls would have chased my anyway but uhh I think you have to show the girl that you are the prize, and you can't do that with showing big interest, calling often etc.

If you want a LTR you have to destroy her game with your (better) game, but than cut down your game.

 

[Nightspark]

Bootcamp is all about creating an aura of confidence, self-image.... well mainly it links to attitude on yourself and whatever tasks you do in life (school, uni, work...etc) and they do it by getting you out there and ssocialising so you are prepared for what life throws at ya... just so happens that many are afraid of talking to chicks, and well that becomes the focus of hte last 4 weeks of the bootcamp!

Oh and it's never Hard... it's just challenging and never say it's impossible!

 

[MrHarris]

I agree. In quantum physics they have found something called a quark. When they examine the inside of the tinest element they have found that it will change to fit the perceptions of whoever is viewing it.

The lesson is that if you view something as being hard then it will be hard. And it is only a matter of changing your perceptions as neo discovered in the matrix and a whole new world will open up to you.

 

[biker_gixxer]

IT SHOULD BE DEAD SIMPLE. LOOK AROUND -- EVERY MORON HAS A GIRLFRIEND.

so what's your excuse then?

 

[wiggadude]

I don't have one, I can't figure it out. I just want a LTR, not lots of STRs and sex, but I have no idea where these women are.

Originally posted by biker_gixxer
IT SHOULD BE DEAD SIMPLE. LOOK AROUND -- EVERY MORON HAS A GIRLFRIEND.

so what's your excuse then?