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  1. Gunwitch

    Gunwitch Don Juan

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    Figured I'd contribute this as well for people who have missed out on it. Was a real compliment to have GWM1 put in the don juan bible and all.

    So here goes.


    Gunwitch method 2

    Essential guide of proper analysis and Internal dynamics



    Well here we are again all.

    I suppose the first and best place to start is always with what YOU
    want out of this manual. At its absolute core what you are about to
    read is about getting more sex. Well, more appropriate, being the man
    you need to be to bed the women you want.

    You don't want that? You want something else? You maybe wanna live a
    lifestyle of glamour and glitz, maybe a life full of adoring people
    and worship from women? Sure that would be nice, but these writings
    are for a guy to get laid with at leisure, maybe to find a
    relationship. They certainly are not a way to change your LIFE, but a
    way to change YOU, so you can walk out your door and start to change
    your life. Sex with a hot woman in your bed is to blah and bland for
    you? You already get enough of that? Then this probably isn't for you,
    stop reading.

    Right off I must say as well. This is gonna be rock bottom **** here.
    Don't bother reading ANY of this if you wont A. give yourself 100% to
    the material, if you don't like ME or some aspect of my methods and
    this causes you to wanna argue against me then don't bother. B. If you
    have what you want already the things I'm gonna ask you to do will be
    unreasonable, so don't bother. You've got an open mind and are at your
    end wanting a better sex life but just cant angle it right? Read on.

    Most who read this will have read GWM1. So I don't feel I need to
    introduce myself or talk of the success or time in this field I've
    had. GWM1 was how I myself pick up and bed women. The incomplete
    nature of it wasn't on purpose, but merely because through the process
    I am going to show you here, I had become great with women, desirable
    to women. Problem was, I didn't know who I was inside that was doing
    what I was doing. I had just become him. I have gotten no better with
    women since writing GWM1, I have figured out more of who I am at an
    intellectual level, and remembered HOW I became him though. The
    questioning from others about GWM has made me figure out WHO I am
    inside and remember HOW I got there.


    Gotta repeat this from GWM1:
    One last thing before the lessons begin. Don't mentally argue with
    this stuff. Whatever you think you know about seduction and women
    obviously isn't working for you else you wouldn't be staring at this
    screen at these little black letters in the first place right? SO take
    in what I say without sceptical critiques and try it out. Worst that
    can happen is you might just get laid, unlike what you know to be true
    about women and seduction is doing for you now.

    "He who questions his teachings, only learns to ask questions"- ?



    Obviously something isn't working in the online seduction community.
    Only A handful of guys have all the success they want with women. Case
    in point you are here, not with a woman of your choosing in bed. Not
    to assume no one is reading this for the hell of it, but many who read
    this will have read HUNDREDS or posts, dozens of e-books, asked a
    hundred questions in chat, met guys in real life from the community
    and maybe even been to seminars, yet usually at best can only get
    "attention" or company of women not sex at leisure. Surely maybe some
    of these guys now feel a "part of something" or have built a non
    seduction community social circle. Men are hanging around all over
    the place in boards and chats and going to seminars and buying
    e-books. Mediocre at BEST success of a sexual nature follows, for all
    but a few. More commonly a guys sexual appeal doesn't go up at all
    and/or he makes no efforts. In some cases the mans appeal and effort
    get WORSE.

    You were programmed with sexually and socially negative things since
    birth. You found the seduction community and were told so. Those
    re-programming you however probably didn't consider or didn't realize
    the inner beliefs, the processing of the world they were about to
    replace in you, was no worse than what they were about to replace it
    with for your sex life. Socially and dignity wise you felt better with
    the new beliefs, but sex life wise, were still full of hit or miss
    thoughts and tricks and ideas.

    I here in GWM2 will teach you how to deprogram yourself of all that
    ****. I will do so by showing you why it is "****". I will be showing
    you this by appealing to your reason and logic and even showing you
    how to use reason and logic. Later I will by the same means I used
    reprogram you much as I did myself before finding amazing success.

    Comprehension is a MUST for this to work. Skimming this will be
    useless. Read each lesson and then read it again, think on it and
    understand it for the words written, do not filter it through your own
    perceptions and models of things. Take everything at face value,
    Understand it and do not argue with it.

    As I said you will not find tricks or techniques here, you will not
    find theory to analyze. You will not find a way of "spinning in to the
    room" in just the right way so everyone notices you.

    Notice the last thing I said. Spinning in to a room just the right
    way so everyone notices you? Not a really important seeming statement
    is it?

    Why its important though I will illustrate in this, your first tool
    for deprogramming yourself.

    First there are 2 terms you must understand. More important
    understand the difference between them.

    Inference: a logical conclusion from first facts or basic reasoning.

    Induction: conclusion is drawn from reasoning based on particular
    instances. Aka modeling.

    FIRST problem arises. Like I said don't argue if what you are doing
    isn't working, and I am gonna step on about 100,000 toes here but…….
    Modeling doesn't work ! That's right it doesn't work in self help. Its
    SELF help, not becoming "like someone else" right off.

    More on the above, models of engineering or material science can be
    improved upon or even re-created by the use of induction or modeling
    because they are tangible and FULLY understood. SO induction can be
    used as a logical process because the principles in question are right
    there and WORK, are understood too an atomic level and can be used to
    either study and create similar working models, or even improved upon
    by the particular instances already at work as a place to work from.

    Seeing any metaphor? YOU aren't electrical current, you aren't a
    reactor, you aren't an engine. SHE isn't electrical current or a
    reactor or engine. SO you see, to take someone else's way of doing it
    and attempt to come to conclusions is itself a particular instance, as
    well as the target he uses it on is a particular instance. Bad news.
    This could be achieved and used to develop a PU model, IF all people
    weren't VERY different, if we understood every particle and atom and
    cell of these similar "drones" and as well their experiences all a
    crossed the board and how they interpreted them. See science just
    hasn't come that far and people daily become more distant from each
    other in similarity.

    Another problem arises. For a particular man, in particular instances
    with particular women success will begin to become VERY high. Its seen
    or even told about by him and then you try to model it. Now being we
    are so complex and not made of particular instances of like kind, how
    successful are you about to become doing what he does? Not very.

    This can be argued against in the form of "all women think the same
    though". WRONG, this is where the point is proven. Certainly we have
    to agree that women do not all think the same as our psyche is shaped
    by experience and they do not all have the same experiences.
    Biologically yes and socially yes they can operate on pretty sound
    basic first facts, but their particular experiences will all be
    different! Not modeling but inference is again to be used.

    Only following inference can be used until you have enough of your own
    particular instances and "niche markets" of women cornered to begin
    following induction to tighten it all up. Particular instance will be
    used to deduce her possible mental outcomes and frames at that point,
    For NOW we must focus on starting all over a new.
     
  2. Gunwitch

    Gunwitch Don Juan

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    So what are we to do if we cannot use induction now. What are we to
    do with all the programming we have set in place that was concluded by
    particular instances of another person? What are we to "use"! Wont it
    take forever without SOME Tao or method? First of all it is taking
    forever right now, you are never gonna be ME, or any other guru
    success wise doing what WE do PU wise. You are on no path of
    improvement or ascending skills, YOU as you sit doing what you do, if
    you never did anything different or had a shift of thinking would
    always be you.

    Second of all we are gonna build you a Tao, gonna build you a ****in
    method. Not just a method though, not some once posted 5 times
    applauded 5 times flamed and abandoned by the poster himself writings.
    I'm talking we are gonna build you from the ground up in to a "GURU",
    the guru that is YOU, not you attempting to use someone else's
    particular instances in the spirit of the ugly cousin of inference
    that is induction.

    You are gonna test your willpower. Because from this point on, you
    use NOTHING you do now in the field on purpose, and stop yourself from
    using anything you use out of habit when you catch it.


    Some idea of how to spin in to a room just the right way Is GONE.
    Induction is gone for now. It will be used again later, but that's
    MUCH later. What you do is not getting you what you want. You will
    cease ALL of it.


    I stopped using everything bit by bit. This was probably my FIRST
    step after rock bottom of not having the success I wanted with any
    "methods". My own or those of others. To be unable to abandon
    something harmful you have mentally collected, be it tactic technique
    or way of thinking that makes you feel powerful yet gives you nothing
    in return is a HUGE problem. You must in logical reasoning and using
    inference "start from zero". As starting there is the beginning of
    understanding truth. When a method doesn't work you aren't "not
    getting it", if you have read and comprehended it and attempted it,
    then it doesn't work. So tell the method, "step in my office, cause
    you're ****in fired!".

    You might be saying "**** this I cant do that ill just go read some
    more about what to say or KINO or spinning in to clubs". If so re-read
    inference VS induction til you understand it is you don't, or quit
    arguing with it and accept it.

    You SURELY are saying, "ok then what the **** DO I DO!?"

    We are gonna use inference here. Basic reasoning from first facts.
    Its well established we cannot read minds (though some greenPUA claim
    to nearly be able to, YOU cannot so forget their claims and
    marketing). We as well can't deduce this all to a science of cells and
    chemicals yet, and we cant simply model another's approach for the
    same results. SO we must go on basic first facts.

    As a last note I do not want the following to seem as if I claim to
    be infallible in logic or first facts. Anyone who does claim so should
    be backed away from by you with one hand on your wallet.

    I will now simply lay out an example of using inference as an
    analysis method in PU.

    What is basic FIRST fact we are dealing with of WHO women **** and
    who they don't?

    Want you to exercise your reasoning of first facts here so don't read
    the answer til you think about it.






















    They **** men they are attracted to and do not **** men they are
    repulsed by. Obvious if you had read it right after the question I'm
    sure. Probably not so with the way you've been thinking lately though
    and the above space. You might have even said "funny guys" or "guys
    with confidence" or some other placebo inducing particular instance
    you've seen or thought once worked if the "matrix really has you" lol.

    Ok so we know women **** guys they are attracted to and do not ****
    guys they are repulsed by. Don't think I'm insulting your intelligence
    here I am going someplace with this.

    What is the next use of inference?

    What are the basic first facts of what is and is not attractive?

    What levels of attraction are there, and which must be met first and
    foremost?

    What "repellants" must be avoided at all cost?

    Here I will lay these out with first: biological, second social and
    then finally "conscious". Each will come with a no no-nonsense and
    basic of a tip to have the attractant or avoid that repulsor as is
    possible. We will not be using induction here, only basic first fact.
    We will also not be using miniscule doubts of the basic first facts.
    Some things may be regional (not that women in your home of Estonia
    want a confident man or other such assumptions) or very specific.
    Starting to see the logic behind this yet? Base facts of attraction
    used to get you success right away, and as a strong foundation to THEN
    uses induction on to "tighten up" rather than reverse engineering 2000
    particular instances over 5 years?


    Biological. First and easiest to get in to. What gets her juices down
    there flowing? Surely basic first fact is that a woman will have sex
    with a man she is turned on by if other factors permit or don't
    repulse. We will work from there.

    Attractant: Lean body, surely the same as you first think of ****ing
    a woman who is lean, she will first think of ****ing a man who is lean
    as well. Fat guys ever get laid? Yeah of course. But this is basic
    first facts that a lean body is more attractive than a fat one, not
    absolute omnipotence of all possibility but BASIC first fact.

    Starting with a basic here for rhythm of reading TOP biological
    attractant will be saved for last of biological section as it's a bit
    long in the read.

    Repellant: chub, fat, beer gut, whatever you call it. It is not
    natural til the last 100 years for this condition to befall a human
    being. Get rid of it.

    Attractant: Clear skin. Not evolutionary mumbo jumbo about signaling
    "good health" here. Basic visual biological appeal. A tan can help
    with slight problems, medication for festering puss bags on your face.

    Repellant : Acne and blemishes of course.

    Attractant: Facial looks. This could arguably go under social as its
    very much an acceptance issue but we will put it here as it
    biologically motivates her. The tip? Getting lean will improve them,
    as well as clearing the skin on face if it's a problem, right glasses
    if you MUST wear them, right facial hair (or none) and right haircut
    for you facial features, whitening or straightening (or replacement
    lol) of teeth, colored contact lenses, MUCH can be done with a bit of
    experimenting or a good stylist.

    Repellant: Being totally not her biological type facial wise. Some
    people will just NOT DIG some people based on their face, though other
    may find it quite attractive. I mean you mother or sisters a ****in
    HOTTIE you still ain't gonna wanna be with a chick that looks like
    her.

    Attractant: Safety with you at a physical threat level. Now we will
    get to some technique junkie stuff. As the………

    Repellant: Fear of a stranger physically hurting them must be dealt
    with at an active level. Though is a social as well as a conscious
    thing we will just deal with it here as the fear is of a biological
    nature. While fear of being hurt emotionally would be conscious and
    not so deeply ingrained.

    How do we deal with it? PaiMai the timeless workhorse of debate and
    discussion will be explained here to the best of my ability. I will
    not be getting in to the seductive nature and theory of paimai only
    the facts here for dealing with fear.

    The basic way and theory is to be non threatening. Not in an a-sexual
    way but in a rapport based way. So the "hover" before the approach,
    or to walk up in her general area, and pretend to notice something
    near her and pay quick attention to it, is a great first gesture. For
    her then to give you eye contact or look at you and you then look at
    her and get eye contact back and THEN start the initial conversation
    is golden. To abruptly burst in to her space and begin speaking to her
    is a major cause of withdraw and/or fear. The intuition of this built
    in to people socially is VERY strong, this is why many many people
    only meet mates in the workplace or socially, as this dynamic is taken
    out of play I theorize. With strangers it is basic first fact.

    Not being in the field much or having built an intuition for this may
    make it SEEM a particular instance or an isolated technique. But it
    really is a basic first fact that you should be spared from learning
    and will enhance your success right away making things go a little
    smoother.

    Basic first fact 2 of dealing with fear as well as in rapport Another
    tip of sorts. Assume rapport is already there with her. You will do
    the "hover" then ask a few questions of neutral nature. You do not
    want to assume rapport to quickly as this may confuse her, so a few
    light questions of perhaps: if she is from the area, what her area was
    like, then introduction of yourself and getting her name, basic things
    asked and received. You then will see the first indicator of her
    interest in you, her asking you a question back, or maybe laughing at
    something that isn't very funny. THIS is when you begin to assume
    rapport. Based on congruence "assuming rapport" is a basic first fact
    in and inside of rapport. How you talk to your friends, family, lovers
    and co-workers, the people you know is FAR different than how you talk
    to someone you don't know. The key, the "trick" if you want to call it
    that is to use the power of similarity to achieve a rapport faster
    quelling fears of you being someone who may hurt her. You want her at
    internal levels and dynamic of the situation to see you as someone she
    knows already. She KNOWS she doesn't, but will feel more comfortable
    rather than fearful if you see and make the differences go away.
     
  3. Gunwitch

    Gunwitch Don Juan

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    What are the key differences of how you talk to a stranger and how
    you talk to a known person? Absolute dead center first is you have
    PRACTICED all your life talking to people you know. SO you must
    practice practice practice talking to women you do not know in order
    to achieve this same effect at internal levels we don't even
    understand.

    Second, you are RELAXED. You do not feel you need to prove anything,
    or that they will walk away and take something you want out of reach,
    so you are relaxed rather than probing and "fast" in the encounter
    when it's a "known" vs. a stranger you want something from. Again
    practice practice practice will relax you, and this tip will help with
    it as well. Only approach stationary women, women in one spot, not on
    the move at a brisk pace. This is very much more calm and relaxed of a
    dynamic, as well as allows for "the hover" to be used and at an
    internal level gets rid of any "shes taking away what I want" factor
    that may make you too stressed to assume rapport or create a
    comfortable environment.

    Watch a GREAT car salesman he uses both to quell fears. He waits for
    the person to fix themselves on a car looking at it (form of the hover
    at basic levels) and then approaches without a hint of desperation. He
    does not assume or achieve total rapport however, you can with a
    woman, as women WANNA get ****ed by you and know basically that's what
    you are there to do. Car buyers do not wanna get "****ed" in the
    wallet and know that's what he's there for. Still this salesman sets a
    better dynamic and tone.

    What does ****ty car salesman do. Well first he puts a guy in a
    chicken suit (if ya catch my inside joke kudos) out front with a
    bullhorn looking very desperate. He then as you drive in to the lot
    gets in your window and in an anxious manner attempts to befriend you.

    Think hippy or stoner here, not manic defense attorney.

    Finally what do you usually do at a verbal level with strangers you
    are not in rapport with, that you don't do with "knowns"?

    You ask tons of questions about her and volunteer tons of information
    about you. When with "knowns", you discuss the environment, the things
    around you or activity you are engaged in. You talk about happenings
    or people you both know. You can do the same with her in the form of
    celebrities, music, movies and TV you both watch. Do not volunteer
    what you watch or listen to or have seen, ask her what she watches
    listens to or has seen for a better conversation to erupt out of
    these things that will lead to rapport being assumed.

    Basic structure to quell fears of hers.

    Hover.

    Hi, hello, what's up or hey when she sees you

    Questioning of her begins. Introductions are made in between 1st and
    2nd or third questions.

    Questioning of her stops when you see an indicator of first comfort

    Environmental talk begins, something in the environment as your
    conversation piece.

    Engage probe of current events, celebrities shes seen on TV, TV shes
    watched movies shes seen or music she likes. Carry on convo.

    HHQQEE. HQE x2

    Memorize it til you get it fluid in field. Basic first fact is these
    conversations will be chaotic so expect it, adaptability is the only
    cure for chaos, so practice practice practice.

    Eventually your approaches to strangers will become like seeing an
    old friend, HQE x 2 is the same dynamic. You are near each other, see
    each other, someone says hi, ya ask what each others been up to, you
    stop asking questions and talk a bit about the weather and then move
    on to "happenings" people you both know of or maybe even "happenings"
    or people you don't know of that you've seen on a screen someplace.
    Rapport is assumed.

    These dynamics will save you MUCH time in dealing with basic first
    fact, "fear of being hurt by strangers".


    Attractant: Last but most important. Women are attracted to men. Or
    masculinity, all that is a man. Basic first fact, what makes a man a
    man and woman a woman? Now if you thought that last section was long,
    get ready, cause this is gonna get LONG. Your inner beliefs, your
    lifestyle, everything is gonna be in question. I'm gonna get all the
    internal **** right or at least close to right in you.

    "I'm gonna make you boys STRROOONG"-Major Payne

    Ok we know a woman is driven by wanting a penis in her vagina to cause
    pleasure to **** a man unless there is something wrong with her. Basic
    first fact of all first fact.

    What makes a man a man besides a penis? That is the question that
    must be answered here to get a working strategy for this first fact.

    Testosterone. Inner beliefs of a non feminine nature. View of the
    world based on being a male and how being that is perceived. Maturity
    rather than adolescence . Certainly all these things. A man isn't by
    nature a "beta male AFC ****in clueless loser" so what is he in
    nature? To be this natural man is certainly first fact of what a woman
    wants. How do we even approach this though!? It's certainly not
    possible you say? Think again.


    First on the menu. You will now learn "the sun". You'll understand
    this much later.

    Your life. What is it? What do you do? Who have you become?

    You go sit on a pad all day and type keys, or you sit on a telephone
    all day. You eat a lunch of fried potatoes and seaweed flavored like
    beef wrapped in enriched whole flour. What scares you daily? You jerk
    off to other people having sex on a screen. You go to the doctor if
    you find a mole you didn't see before and worry for a weAk. You want
    women you are told to, not what you lust for and most desire. You
    worry what other people think of you in petty matters. You wonder if
    you punched someone in the face if they'd just stand there and laugh
    at you (well I'm sure you know primealpha lol).

    This does not make for testosterone production. These are not male
    behaviors. This is not the lifestyle of a natural man. Cavemen got
    laid with little or no thought ok, basic first fact. It is a
    deduction, yet a basic first fact as well that cavemen did none of the
    above.

    Now I'm not gonna tell you to quit your job, run off to the mountains
    and hunt your food with a spear. Though a week or 2 of that could do
    you wonders I guarantee.

    LIFT WEIGHTS. Labor and use of your body, release of endorphins and
    effects on cortisol, testosterone, insulin and too much to go in to is
    DIRE. You could take testosterone injections and end up with tits but
    working the WHOLE body (see Primealphas workout guide) will increase
    it naturally. People are not meant to be sedentary and especially men
    are affected by the last 50 years advances in labor and economy inside
    their bodies. You do not have to build a ton of muscle or workout 5
    days a week. Just LIFT SOMETHING other than bags of groceries and do
    it regularly this will increase testosterone. Not getting you laid
    immediately by any means. But starting to "create a sun", you'll see
    what I mean later.

    Eat right. Well this isn't possible for most. But drink plenty of
    water and give an effort to lay off the white stuff though, Breads
    pastas, rice, sugar and enriched flour are not natural for our system,
    again too much to go in to. This isn't some crackpot idea, the science
    backs it up that not eating these things will increase testosterone
    and natural balances in the body. So really they more restore them to
    normal. Normal being when men were men, not overfed veal. Both eating
    right and lifting weights unless you have a weight problem already
    will keep you lean and attractive looking socially as well as
    biologically to women.


    Take a ****in risk man. Not even a REAL risk is needed, just get that
    ticker going with a good old adrenaline and cortisol ****tail now and
    again. Get in a martial art where you will compete with other men or
    even have a game of hardcore rugby (more dangerous but just as good),
    or hell if you want go fight club and start fighting your buddies in
    the back yard. Go sky diving, bungee jumping, go on a roller coaster,
    go camping alone in the woods. These kinds of things as well increase
    testosterone, fear creates it again too much to go in to at a chemical
    and possible psychological level. Even better they have an immediate
    effect on your sense of self being a man not a boy, an adventurer or
    warrior not a "technical support" or "student" guy.

    Quit jerking off all the time PLEASE. This is the height of debate
    with a lot of men. Jerking off to porn was by far not natural or
    normal, common everyday male behavior up til 20 years ago or less. It
    still is not natural. Lack of orgasm tells your body it isn't mating,
    this causes increased testosterone levels to make you more aggressive
    in finding a mate. Orgasm with a woman on the other hand INCREASES
    testosterone levels from the excitement.
     
  4. Gunwitch

    Gunwitch Don Juan

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    **** WOMEN. Ok that's probably annoying to many of you who cant get
    laid. But WHO is it exactly you cant get laid by? These ego based
    desirable makeup and hair and mini skirts with the fitness bodies?
    Well a good way to go about "moving up" to them is to get a little
    momentum. As I said orgasm with a woman causes increased testosterone,
    increased testosterone is your "sun" (hold on its coming up), your
    "sun" is gonna be the thing all pivots around far as attracting women,
    more testosterone the better. Not saying you've gotta **** every fatty
    and toothless wonder you can find in an alley. But lower your
    standards a bit for right now ego wise. Go for what turns you on
    enough you would like to have it in your bed plowing it, not what it
    would look like on your arm.

    See women for what they are, not what others see them as is next and
    last rule here to make the "sun". You need to figure out your "type"
    BAD. If you think big tits, blonde hair, ton of makeup in a mini skirt
    with perfect body. Well you aren't figuring out what you REALLY wanna
    **** now are you. That may be exactly it the last one I described.
    Hell id love to **** that right now myself. But not as much as "her".
    "Her" is my 10, my exact lust object, the thing I wanna grab by the
    hair and ram as hard as I can til we are both spent from exhaustion.
    Her is my ideal, her face will vary, her body will as well. Hair color
    a bit here and there too. But she is MINE, she isn't societies rule of
    what's attractive to me, she isn't what's forced down my throat by the
    TV or the homosexuals in Hollywood and fashion magazine rooms. She is
    MINE. THAT'S who I approach, that's who I ****. You've got a list of
    crushes, think about them, Celebes, chicks in real life, doesn't
    matter. Think of them, were they stereotypes? NO they were YOURS. That
    right there, approaching them and only them once you are less green
    will complete your "sun". Til then **** what you can get at all turned
    on by and approach any woman you'd even entertain ****ing, your 10,
    societies 10, 6s and 7s *****s and queens, for practice in this GWM2
    thing. You'll know when that natural man is emerging, you will know
    when its time to ONLY approach your "hers" as a final capper.




    Now we will build you "body"

    The faulty, unnatural conditioning you have received from society and
    the seduction community can be deprogrammed, and should be as you use
    the inference vs. induction/modeling willpower stunt. Willpower should
    be in use by you to stop thoughts of deducted models of other people
    now as you read this and are challenged. Willpower will be used to rid
    yourself of all habits of thought that are faulty when recognized.

    THEN they will be replaced by not only the basic first fact way of
    reasoning but the basic first facts you must understand of what it is
    to be a natural man in thought and inner core.

    I will lay these out. Read them, understand them and take them on as
    basic first facts of your new inner beliefs. In these I digress from
    total perfect logic. These are ideals. This is the software here, it
    need not be perfect and completely accurate. These are your new
    "models" and ways of thinking. Maybe not all FACT, but they become
    fact by believing them.

    These are:

    #1: Women love sex. Unless biologically stunted in her privates or a
    lesbian she will love sex with men. Ahhh key is being a man, not a boy
    or feminine. The natural man knows this desire for sex is there and
    acts on it for mutual gratification. Sex is a natural thing that
    happens between you and a woman. It is not a battle or conquest. It is
    animal lust.

    #2: Natural mans picture of himself is not as a boy: Soft living and
    pampering, from womb to coffin we are given. We are saved when we need
    saving and listened to when we cry. Natural man doesn't have this
    perception anymore. He thinks "me" he doesn't think he is young or a
    child or a boy. He sees himself as a man. You are an adult a grown up.
    Act accordingly. Don't be crying about ****, somebody didn't ****in
    drop dead, don't be crying. Don't be hanging on women like they are
    your mother. There's 500 of em to many to list. Its called not being a
    ***** ass little boy. You get your "sun" these things don't happen as
    much anyways. Still be aware of thinking like a MAN and an adult, not
    something weak or helpless.

    #3: Other men are not superior to you. Natural man would have none of
    this. Get your sun in place and it'll come. To offend another man is
    to possibly have to fight. All it means to offend another man. SO
    WHAT. You don't giggle when AMOG makes a joke at your expense, he
    doesn't like that? TOO bad, you are MALE, you can and will compete for
    respect. People used to like it when you made jokes about yourself?
    TOO bad, they'll get eye contact from you now, not jokes and you
    giggling at the floor. You aren't looking for trouble, but you aren't
    gonna avoid it either less its REAL ****in dangerous. Even then, that
    gangbanger with the gun in his waistband who's house you ended up at
    might just shoot you for being a little wimpy punk ass when you talk
    about "I'm such a tight ass square white boy". And know that you ain't
    gonna giggle enough or be passive enough to get out of that basement
    in el Salvador where you've just landed the lead role in a forced
    donkey on man sex act. So be a MAN and don't look for trouble OR try
    to avoid it, especially while its happening. Natural man is no victim.
    You don't have to be either.

    #4: You don't take any **** from anyone with a smile. Usually you
    wont take any **** at all, but if you are backed in to a corner hands
    tied and your balls in a vice, you don't grin and bear it, you just
    bear it. You do this because you have an imaginary audience, this life
    you are living is the movie, you are the main character. This life is
    no comedy, you take life seriously when serious situations arise. You
    are the leading man in every story. You only take the scripts that
    suit you. You MUST live up to this audience, your entire self is
    watching. Living anyway or anything else? Pffffffft. That's when you
    aren't so serious and are just making a cameo appearance as a big time
    leading man in some stupid comedy. Passing through.

    #5: Sexual state. You feel it, you know its there. You SURELY don't
    think its wrong! You know its natural. Its what she feels in a
    different way as well. Once the sun has risen, this sexual state will
    BURN in you, to be obsessed with it would not be unmanly or unnatural.
    It is your other being. It is in fact from the testosterone a sort of
    survival persona, at the procreation level. Testosterone will give you
    this survival mechanism to drive your aggression and persistence in
    mating and competition with other men.




    #6: You're gonna forget about "swingers" and "Tao of Steve" and "Don
    Juan Demarco" as PU movies, they are now only entertainment. You don't
    use induction, ESPECIALLY fictional induction. Watch the movie
    "predator" with Arnold swarzenegger. See the order of masculinity in
    actions and interactions PU wise. Far as being a male. Who of them
    would get the best women for what they looked like? Indian tracker
    guy(little much, pretty much below Arnold because of it) and Arnold
    (right way to be), 2 black guys (both pretty standard), Jesse Ventura
    and grenade launcher guy (amog/AFC types looking to impress and
    cackling over stupid jokes), guy with glasses ALWAYS giggling around
    and being a goof. Predator kills them in roughly that order for sport.
    Also watch the scene with the Indian tracker, he gets fed up, throws
    off all his **** takes out his knife and waits on the path for the
    predator tired of being hunted. If you cant see that as a real
    tearjerker lol, you are WAY too conditioned by this passive society.

    I only mention this as off the wall as it sounds as I remember about
    87 or so when this came out. After having watched it in a deep zone
    in, really identifying with the characters was the first time I felt
    like a man in my whole life. Have MALE, masculine role models. Yeah
    watch Seinfeld or MASH and laugh and enjoy it, but don't think just
    cause Jerry and George have a new woman written in each week they are
    good role-models. Not saying a guy who acts like that cannot get laid,
    just that he wont get laid as much or by the women he really wants.
     
  5. Gunwitch

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    #7: You know women and men are not from different planets. Socially
    which we will get to later there can be variables. But basic first
    fact is that biologically men and women are MUCH alike. Any thoughts
    of "women think different from men" are squashed out instantly. You
    conform to the bare minimum of social differences and her conditioning
    to have the mutual sexual experience. You do not harp on the
    differences of men and women in your mind. People walking around the
    planet, living eating and ****ing. Humans from earth. Not creatures
    from Mars and Venus cast in some battle of wills. That's book selling
    talk, not reality.

    Read these, know these. Comprehend them til you get a certain sense
    of satisfaction and take them away with you. You may need to develop
    your sun before the body can begin to shape up though.

    HAH!, FINALLY we come to the sun and body business.

    The finale. Your shadow.

    A metaphor:

    You see the sun casts the power and energy, the testosterone and sense
    of power thrusts a light out hitting your body, your body (the beliefs
    and ideals you hold and that are intellectualized) will be the
    position you take to allow the sun to cast a shadow.

    You see you can have a BRIGHT burning sun, just right all perfect.
    But if you are standing sideways you wont cast the full shadow.

    Basically you can have all the chemistry right from your lifestyle,
    but if you are still thinking like a ****in moron about hyper
    analytical concepts and dynamics between you and her, or doing stupid
    behaviors that are the anathema of your "sun" because you believe they
    are the right way to think? You'll cast a half ass shadow, or persona.

    For in depth shadow example coming from the same sun and body, Look
    at GWM1 of course.

    But in general if you take the mindsets (body section) and place them
    in direct correlation with the suns beams (the chemistry and
    testosterone) the shadow you cast will be PERFECT. Or about 90% but
    hey nobodies perfect. Anyone who says they can make you so should be
    put on a cult watch list. Its eating the fruit not trying to get the
    vitamins out of it in pill form again. You simply must relax and enjoy
    being a natural man, enjoy the feelings of being a man, and enjoy
    strong mindsets and ideals that are in synch with it.

    You'll move more confidently in body, you'll look people in the eyes
    when you speak and not break eye contact first, you'll touch women
    when it feels right, you'll stand closer to her and get even closer as
    she warms up, you'll talk in a better voice, slower more calm and
    sexy, you'll party harder and have a good time cause you wont have
    underlying fear of what others will think if you let loose, you'll
    deal with drama better, you'll deal with loss and rejection better.
    You'll have to jerk off 3 times in a row to get writing like this done
    because sitting in one place with no stimulation but your own mind and
    thoughts for this long will drive you CRAZY! Yet aside from that you
    will think clearer under pressure, which is much more important than
    being able to write a bunch of **** like this in the real world. In
    all you just become one sexy mother****er. A MAN.

    A natural man just gets laid no matter what right? Not always.
    Problems come up. Of the social kind basically repellants that must be
    quelled, and a few attractants that can be helped or used to
    advantage. Surely society and fear of judgment can bias a woman's
    determination to have sex with you or not. Only the most outstanding
    of minds can usually totally drop the social cognition, or the
    perception of what others will think of any given action. We must at
    least "pass" the repulsors, and maybe use the attractants to social
    advantage.

    Now we will explore them. Please remember as well I am in north
    America, and watch American TV, movies and media. Some of these may
    surely not fit for your region. As well take note that none of these
    factors will really get you laid all on their own, you must have the
    biological attractants in place, THEN these will supplement you as
    attractants, or stop you cold in the case of repulsors.

    Attractant: Height. This may at first glance appear a biological
    attractant I've misplaced. It is in fact not . Height is a social and
    never biological attractant. Proof? Well how is height gauged? Against
    other heights of course. If ALL men shrunk 5 inches tomorrow there
    would be no decline in sexual activity amongst the human species (if
    we weren't aware of it of course and scrambling WHAT THE ****
    HAPPENED!?). You see but if ALL men gained 30 lbs of body fat sexual
    activity would decrease. Therefore it is a social not biological drive
    as it is judged against other people, NOT an instant biological fact.

    What to do to with it? Surely a crowd setting is an asset if you are
    taller as you can have a ruler for her to gauge you against.

    Repellant: Short to Average height? Stay away from the tall guys.
    When you cut through crowds of people pick a group that is shorter to
    cut through for a better ruler. Buy some boots to get a bit above
    average height,. Unless hand selected to be shorter than you, a
    wingman or party scene of guys is not ideal either.

    Attractant: GREAT grooming. Not just being clean and non smelly or
    unkempt. I mean the same things I talked about in the facial looks
    category. Properly tailored or fitting clothes to accentuate your best
    assets, right beard and hair combos, right no hair or beard combos,
    clean nails and good skin. Socially acceptable grooming of the highest
    degree.

    Repellant: POOR grooming. Should be obvious but don't be all ****ed
    up looking. Going from first basic facts you can watch television and
    see what socially acceptable grooming is on a man. Do not use
    induction here as you have NO idea what looks good. You may as I seen
    on MTV think "I don't want my hair all spiky" so you paste it down
    with grease to both sides. Do not do this. Do not wear big coke bottle
    glasses cause "nerd is in and different". A Mohawk and 25 gold chains
    when a woman uttered near a clueless man "Mr.T is sexy" has probably
    happened. Get with it, wear normal human males socially acceptable
    styles, haircuts and accessories. Watch one episode of ANYTHING but
    drew Carey show or M.A.S.H ilk , and you'll find something reasonable.
    Cut the hair out of your nose that hangs, and wash your balls. Your
    hirsute is probably not gonna be a big attractant for her, and will
    probably repel her, so tone it down.


    Attractant: Style. What I mean here is an offshoot of the above. Same
    deal be IN STYLE somewhat for your region and targets. Only MORE.
    Peacocking is no big secret so ill talk about it. In a setting such as
    a club or bar where style and standing out can "cut through the chaos"
    and get you noticed it is a great social attractant.

    Thing is, use inference not induction. DO NOT wear pink leather pants
    cause you seen some guy get laid wearing them. You are a redhead with
    pale skin, it'll look like "strawberry quik" let out their ****in
    mixing brush for a night on the town. Have common sense and do
    something congruent yet noticeable and "standoutish" on YOU. I myself
    have worn leather vest and ass-less chaps, kidding about the ass-less
    chaps. I will wear leather vest with tight white under tank top for a
    shirt with some jewelry . Kind of bland for some scenes I'm sure, but
    I'm in a smaller town where this is HUGE peacocking. Use discretion.
    Of course being in a niche market AND with creative enough garb is a
    GREAT social attractant/get you noticed deal. Example: At a western
    party everyone is in traditional country western multi colored garb.
    You are in all black with black overcoat all western style. Underneath
    you reveal much the same. You are "in" niche wise as it is western
    wear, as well as standing out for being different.

    Repellant: Being socially/style wise "OUT". I forget who wrote it but
    I seen this example someplace else, tell me who you are and ill give
    you credit. You are in khakis and a polo shirt with leather loafers?
    It is a gothic style rave dance. Enough said. No chick wants to go
    home with the 90210 reject when she wants some kind of vampire wanna
    be.

    Attractant: Isolation in conjunction with biological factors. Her
    ****in friends. Them damn people watching all over the place she used
    to know. Things like this raise her social conditioning. No woman
    wants to be thought of as a slut. Rapport is harder to obtain when her
    focus is off of you and on reading everyone in the places minds with
    her imagination. So the less eyes on you from first basic facts, the
    better. First basic facts 2. She is not going to have sex with you in
    public view, FULL isolation is a must for a sexual attempt. From the
    start to deal with these problems arising you can approach lone women
    in department stores or use many social dynamics methods (gone FAR
    enough in to detail on FS already) in clubs to get in with her group
    and isolate her from the group. Very technical issue. Suffice to say I
    recommend approaching LONE women in non night club settings. Anyplace
    else is a better bet.
     
  6. Gunwitch

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    Repellant: All eyes on you/her social conditioning not doing the
    biological points and speaking to her and/or her friends or close
    "knowns" right there with no social attractants in place. Basic stuff.
    This is the "BLOWN OUT" repellant though, This is the one you hear the
    horror rejection stories from guys because of. Come up stinking like a
    cat terd and talking to her in front of her friends! You must LOVE
    rejections.

    Attractant: Similar values or ideas.

    Repellant: Opposite values or ideas. This is "social rapport" where
    as the biological was "fear based quelling" rapport techniques. Basic
    social rapport is picking your battles. People only argue and fight
    and butt heads then end up ****ing in the movies and camp trailers
    parked on campground spaces as a first home. Any other time this
    "opposites attract" business is bull**** fictional induction based
    seduction theory. Simple, Social attractants are being "liked" and
    accepted, people like people like them and accept those with similar
    values. This may be incredibly hard to swallow as its probably never
    been written anyplace before. It hasn't in self help because it isn't
    sexy enough to sell a coffee cup, much less a John Grey 1000 dollar
    spectacular Caribbean weekend. He's gotta make up something more
    controversial to your mental frames to say.

    Unless she is going against your core beliefs don't start a whole
    thing. Even then debate skills and diplomatic skills are in order, not
    a blow up or cuss out. She says she loves Eminem the rapper and you
    think he's a ***** mouth little *******, well, you ain't got something
    nice to say don't say it at all. Change the subject.

    Repellant: Verbalizing sexual things. Or pick up lines or lewd
    behavior. INSTANT turning on of her social conditioning to a factor of
    10. Besides doing so will "let it out" in a way as a natural sexual
    man. You wanna be that "subtle sexy man" women try to verbalize in 3
    words as everything I've written here as "what they desire". You don't
    wanna be the guy who lets it all out with words and behaviors of lewd
    and immature nature and disposition and has nothing left to project
    out. Its like laying down flat on the ground and humping your own
    shadow, nothing left to project, you are just ****ing yourself.

    MANY MANY MANY more social repulsors out there. Too many to list and
    go in depth on. You can use your inference skills on these remaining
    list of obvious basics as well as more in the future. CAREFULLY
    however to use inference on any new problem not induction. Only once
    the basic conclusion from first facts has been drawn and applied with
    success do you being to deduce anything. Some conscious dead set
    things she thinks outright as repellants or attractants:

    Why is digging in ones anus or picking ones nose and wiping it on
    their shirt in front of a woman a social and/or biological repulsion
    as rationalized by her?

    Goldiggers are repulsed by what at an adamant conscious level?

    All women are repulsed by hobos, bums or transients as what opposite?

    Rock star groupies are attracted by what at a conscious adamant
    level?

    Persistence works on what type of personality? What do they have
    trouble saying?

    Persistence fails on what type of personality? What do they get angry
    when made to say rather than say it?

    Well I hope this has been a helpful guide. The MAIN thing was the
    enlightenment of your mind as my attempt. The use of a proper
    scientific rather than wild method of analysis has long been absent.
    My goal was to instruct you in some fundamentals of attraction and
    inner game I've come to understand. As well as, give you reasonable
    examples of how this method of analysis could become a fundamental
    tool for you in all first basic facts. Surely induction can be used
    once you yourself have experienced results and failures from a
    particular instance of like kind many times over. ONLY then is it
    rational to attempt in anything as complicated as 2 humans
    interacting. Yet with inference it is made quite simple.

    By the way for the science nutts out there, NO I'm not claiming to
    have invented this way of analysis. I've seen it in several scientific
    methods as well as several psychological texts of the older pre self
    help schools. Also I think Einstein used something similar in the
    theory of relativity coming to be, only starting from 0 rather than
    basic first facts, unless you suppose he started out knowing there are
    numbers which is inferred. It went a bit over my head but I got the
    gist of it. I figure if its good enough for him to use in creating a
    bomb to kill hundreds of thousands, then harnessed by a dumb hillbilly
    like me can easily be adapted to help guys get their pecker wet, now
    get out there and start ****in!

    "Make the ho say no"


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  7. Gunwitch

    Gunwitch Don Juan

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    Hope everyone enjoys this read, as well as is helped by it. I was thinking a bit "weird" when i wrote it, in an attempt to recall pivotal moments and places of understanding in my life as far as PU goes.

    GWM2 isnt as easy a "digest" as GWM1, as GWM2 is more geared towards rather the "getting there internally" than the actual "DO THIS" side of things.

    As i say in the GWM2 writing when i started thinking like i say in the method is when i went from intermediate to advanced levels with my game.

    Comments welcomed.

    "make the ho say no"
     
  8. Trance

    Trance Master Don Juan

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    Your ideas in 3 lines:

    - Look good: fitness, health, clothes, face.
    - Use eye contact and environmental use.
    - Be a man and get laid

    Anyway i read it all, and i think its a really great post, just that all ideas were already deep inside me, so i didnt value it so much. GJ.
     
  9. Snoopy

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    GWM2

    Excellent Post. Certainly not limited to trance's summary. I will try to use your inference method to develop my own real answers as much as I can!
     
  10. Eternal

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    beautiful girlLearn a simple little mind game called The Scrambler that has the power to make a girl chase you... even if she wasn't attracted to you to begin with.
  11. Duke

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    Holy Jebus...this is one looong mother.
    I'll post my thoughts when I'm done. The quality of the first Gunwitch method spurs me onward.

    *reading*

    50 minutes later

    That was difficult for me to digest in one sitting. However, I appreciate your conciseness of thought.

    The ideas here? Others may get different things out of it, but this is mainly what I think is important enough to stick in my mind after a first read-through:

    1) Women want sex as much or more than we do. They want a c0ck penetrating and pleasuring them. They already know that you want sex as well. She will NOT be repulsed by you acting out on your maleness. Sex is mutual, and she will foster and encourage your sexuality towards her if she is attracted to you. Women simply want men. Not males. Not guys. Not boys. Men.

    2) Be a man, not a boy. Take some fvcking risks. Work out, do physical, fear-killing shyt to get testosterone up. DON'T LET GO OF YOURSELF AND GET FAT. Obesity is a first fact repellant. A lean, healthy body is a first fact attractor. Making eye contact, walking with good posture, etc will come AFTER the mental shift is made. Don't try to reverse engineer.

    3) Masturbate less to increase testosterone. Absence of orgasm increases testosterone and the drive to find a mate. Sex with a woman increases testosterone because of the excitement.

    4) Ideally, approach chicks when they are alone. "Hover" before the approach. Don't just bust into her personal space with an agenda. Be subtle. ISOLATE the chick to negate her social conditioning and free her inner animal lust.

    5) Understand the first facts of every situation so that you can contour your actions to them. Don't go in and try to emulate a technique that works for a certain person, because variables will screw you up if you aren't genuine. Be you, just be the BEST you possible.

    Would you expand a little bit on the sun/shadow metaphor?
    Thanks, awesome post.
    BE A MAN
     
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  12. es_mer8

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    Extremely long. You should make an abridged version. However it is very good advice. Most people are forgetting to check their biological internal instincts. Always listen to your gut because its the most rational. The gut always tells you to man up, nail that girl, win at everything, and so on.
     
  13. il_duce

    il_duce Master Don Juan

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    I think you're wrong about the Height thing being social. Even if every one of us shrunk 5 inches overnight, most chicks would still be physically attracted to those of us on the taller end.

    Being taller does have it's drawbacks though. One of them being that chicks are often intimidated by tall guys, and until you've got rapport with them, they're probably gonna be a little afraid of you at first. And on the other hand, chicks won't be very afraid of men shorter than them.

    So what I'm saying here is, if you're average in height, you're still taller than most women, so it's nothing to worry about. It only becomes a problem if you're like 5'6" or lower. In that case you gotta make sure you let them know your a man, and you're the fvcking boss.
     
  14. Gunwitch

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    Makes sense what you are saying, is what i mean though about it being a social issue is that in fact if everyone shrunk and no one knew it there would not be less sex overall. The actual height itself isnt physically attractive, it is sociallly preferable.

    Yeah in general long as you are taller than your target it doesnt seem to be much an issue anyways, and myself being 5'9'' in boots having had sex with several women taller than me the social issue doesnt seem to matter either.

    I included it in order to demonstrate the difference between social and biological attraction from basic first facts.
     
  15. Gunwitch

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    Basically the sun is your energy, your drive, your internal "feeling". Testosterone and the "power feeling". Or lack of.

    Body is what the sun "hits" "filters through" or kind of connects the sun to your actions. Basically your inner thoughts and ethos and beliefs. See a guy can be totally powerful feeling and energetic, tey if he figures "I am still a boy not a man" his "shadow" or what he projects will always show this thru.

    Most focus on the shadow only, trying to cast a full figure that envelopes her inside it. When they in fact have a weak shadow because of a dim sun, and as well havent the body to cast a full shadow that really "shades" her. No matter how they shift and turn their body until it is a full body they are doomed actions wise.

    Best i can elaborate on it, Nothing secret to get or anything, just an easy way of explaining the importance of inner game, inner beliefs and overall feeling of "I CAN" in the masculine man, the natural man.

    "make the ho say no"
     
  16. Ricky

    Ricky Master Don Juan

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    Good stuff, how in the hell did I miss this one?
     
  17. Nex

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    bump

    Bump Please.
     
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    jiza101 Master Don Juan

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    good post..
     
  19. Tuna Head

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    DAMN YOU GUNWITCH!!.................................................
    just kidding, this works like magic only better, gotten me laid more then once, but do you have to post all of the DYNAMIC SEX LIFE Material on this board, I payed for mine on clickbank and your giving it away for free, If I had know you were gonna give it away I might as well waited, but like I said this stuff is gold and is well woth it.


    I WANT MY FVCKING REFUND!!!


    (and yes I was Dumb enough to pay for GWM)!!




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  20. DJBen

    DJBen Master Don Juan

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    This post covered pretty much everything I needed to be reminded of/retold I sat here with a hard on at the end of it.

    Off to meet some ladies. EXCELLENT post.
     

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