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article: Why I won’t date hot women anymore

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I particularly liked this quote from a woman in the story, who by her picture to me is a solid 8.

After dating an athletic banker with model good looks for two years, Sonali Chitre, 34, has sworn off hotties.

“He was a Nazi about his diet and would work out hard-core and cared more about his body than just living life,” says Chitre, who broke up with the finance guy last October.
Indeed.

Red pill practices generally teach men how to motivate themselves toward self-improvement and a key factor of that being better social engagement with women. Well after a few years of actively reading red pill communities on different internet sites, very VERY few of them focus on how to build a LTR that can lead to marriage and even building a better marriage through red pill philosophy.

As a result, just based on what I read from men posting their own stuff and how things turn out, is that the men who successfully apply these teachings tend to turn into players to some degree. They are finally gaining success with women, having sex when they want, so it's hard for them for a good while to want anything else. I've lost count of the number times I've read from men who have succeeded saying they will never go back to any sort of LTR ever again.

I'm not knocking the lifestyle, but my peeve is that so many people dont know what they want in life yet try to mold themselves to fit other peoples perceptions of what a good, ideal person should be, including many men on red pill sites.
 

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Old news.

Evolution of Desire

published in 94, before red pill was even a movie thing (matrix came out in 99) showed that dudes have different criteria for short term lays and LTR.

Short term is hot dumb girls.

Long term is not so hot smarter girls.

Most guys try to turn one into the other and get frustrated when they can't. Different ladies, different gaming strategies.

Another lamestream media writer discovers the wheel.
 

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"Chitre, an environmental lawyer and the founder of Priyamvada Sustainability Consulting, considers herself “a 9 or a 10,” but she says she’s done with gorgeous guys. Now, she’s more interested in “superballer” men with high-paying careers."

So they can finance her boy toy flings
 

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I hate how these articles are lined with bull5hit. The opinions of these guys and girls barely dig below the surface to find the real issues of what's going on here. "Hot girls aren't good for LTRs". That's a pretty vague description of what qualifies for a good or bad LTR. It's not the girl's appearance that makes her a piece of 5hit, but a combination of what she learned (or didn't learn) from her life experiences up to that point that make her a piece of 5hit.

Rochkind found that in Carly, 30, a lovely brunette who’s the vice president of her mother’s matchmaking company and a Syracuse University graduate. Rochkind proposed to her last May in Central Park. He loves that Carly isn’t like the swimsuit models he used to go for.

She's 30 fvcking years old which means she's been alpha-widowed, rode the c0ck carousel, and her biological urges to have children are screaming at her.

Megan Young, a 23-year-old p.r. woman from Hoboken, NJ, also changed her dating habits.

...because the advice of a 23 year old woman is worth more than a grain of salt. Fvck off.... Seriously....

She rode the c0ck carousel and has been alpha-widowed as well.

Well after a few years of actively reading red pill communities on different internet sites, very VERY few of them focus on how to build a LTR that can lead to marriage and even building a better marriage through red pill philosophy.
I think men who have their red pill awakening absolutely need to go through a phase where they fvck any vagina that crosses their path. They need the perception of what's garbage and what's gold in order to make an informed decision of what a decent woman is before they can build a LTR or marriage.
 

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Come on, Im not buying it at all.

Especially the 30 something yrs old woman who acts, thinks and talks as if she is the real deal when actually she would drop half her value by wearing a bikini and jumping in a pool, no fancy clothes or makeup and lets see.

What I believe is that the guy had his time banging hot girls who had no reason to try to be interesting cause their look was all they needed, he then once his satisfaction was complete decided to get a girl willing to make an effort to be worth as a partner cause her look alone wouldnt make it.

Maybe that same girl that is a great partner for him would be a pain in the ass to deal with for an average joe missing the difference in SMV that she has with him now.

The indian girl is not that hot plus she is old and probably the only reason she dumped (are we sure it was her?) the hot looking banker was probably cause the clock was ticking and he just saw her as fvck buddy with some treats once in a while and she needed to settle.

Seriously they can fool dumbasses but surely not people with a minimum of social intelligence.

I dont believe its been hot that make people less interesting or less pleasable to deal with, I believe its the feedbacks they receive from outside.

A not so fat girl in western europe has the ego and confidence of a queen cause average joes worship her while a much more attractive girl is russia is more down to earth cause she doesnt get special treatment and is supposed to make her part.

Im totally sure that a hottie in russia is much more useful and pleasable as a person than an average slim girl in the uk.

To be honest it depends also on who the guy is, a successful muscular entrepreneur would get a totally different treatment from the same woman compared to an average joe.
 

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"Chitre, an environmental lawyer and the founder of Priyamvada Sustainability Consulting, considers herself “a 9 or a 10,” but she says she’s done with gorgeous guys. Now, she’s more interested in “superballer” men with high-paying careers."

So they can finance her boy toy flings
Oh please I am so tired of this lame rating system, this chick is delusional she is not a 9 nor a 10, she's not even an 8, she's cute and it looks like she has a curvy figure, but she overvalues her looks a lot. 8s are rare as hell contrary to what many say on this site " I was with a HB9 last night" mehhhhhh I never seen a 9 in my life and neither have my friends, an 8 yes and that is RARE. Most of the hottest chicks you see or date are probably solid 7s accept it
 

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The hottest girls of the world are nothing but trouble when you take the good looks away.
 

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"Now, she’s more interested in “superballer” men with high-paying careers."

High-paying careers is to a woman what a great body/face are to a man, so that was a dumb thing to include. Also, while I found that Indian woman attractive from her photo, Indian women do not age well. She'd better snag a man soon.

What I don't get about these stories is why is it news? So you don't want to date hot women - good for you. He's going to have fun when the next sub-8.5 HB he wants to lock down as a wife Googles him and this story comes up. "You don't think I'm hot??"

Also, this may be denial on my part, but whenever I see something in our culture about 9s and 10s, they always appear to me to be plain looking. I think it's because they approach the model-industry "ideal" of lithe, pasty white, and vapid looking. I'm not saying they're not good looking, but I question the universality of top shelf beauty sometimes. But - my tastes are weird.
 

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“I could have [anyone] I wanted,” says Rochkind, now 40 and an Upper East Sider with a muscular build and a full head of hair. :lol: :lol: Ok, but he also has a double chin and beta male written all over his face. And Carly looks like a very rough 30yrs old, more like 40 to me.

I think there's 2 types of hot...hot as in a porn star and hot as in beautiful, feminine, innocent looking. Of course the first category isn't worth dating....ain't nobody got time to date a pump&dump.
 

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The article is from 2017. I remember reading it back then.

I think the word “vapid” stuck out for me.

The thing I think today going on in the background is miscegenation. My opinion is it permanently damages women forever and the women just keep trying to hide it, but it permanently damages their ability to have a healthy relationship, unless they just stick forever dating lots and lots of black guys. Forever.

That is a big taboo in today’s dating world. Fewer and fewer white women who are not misled into the damage of miscegenation.
 

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Rochkind found that in Carly, 30, a lovely brunette who’s the vice president of her mother’s matchmaking company and a Syracuse University graduate. Rochkind proposed to her last May in Central Park. He loves that Carly isn’t like the swimsuit models he used to go for.

She's 30 fvcking years old which means she's been alpha-widowed, rode the c0ck carousel, and her biological urges to have children are screaming at her.
Sounds like a bundle of fun!

And Carly looks like a very rough 30yrs old, more like 40 to me.
She is also Jewish too and likely upper middle class or higher. There's a good chance that she is a Jewish American Princess.

I did find her attractive though. Jewish women often have a strong sexual vibe.
 
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Oh please I am so tired of this lame rating system, this chick is delusional she is not a 9 nor a 10, she's not even an 8, she's cute and it looks like she has a curvy figure, but she overvalues her looks a lot. 8s are rare as hell contrary to what many say on this site " I was with a HB9 last night" mehhhhhh I never seen a 9 in my life and neither have my friends, an 8 yes and that is RARE. Most of the hottest chicks you see or date are probably solid 7s accept it
the rating system is totally flawed. The kind of bubble butt chicks some guys go for I really don’t like. Give me a hot petite chick with knockout eyes and slim waste all day. Or a super hot Japanese or Asian girl.

I gross out at the lip filler / mega @ss girls

Of course, they’re better than an ugly fat chick. But while they might be another man’s 10 they’re a 6 for me.

This was very pronounced when speaking to my mate, his wife is a curvy brunette. My wife is petite and Asian. He kind of said good luckto you but he didn’t like Asian women at all. I’d take my wife over his all day long. She’s attractive in her own way but not my style.
 

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I think men who have their red pill awakening absolutely need to go through a phase where they fvck any vagina that crosses their path. They need the perception of what's garbage and what's gold in order to make an informed decision of what a decent woman is before they can build a LTR or marriage.

Absolutely ^
Only after you sample enough V, you're free from the V spell and can make an informed decision about a particular girl.

Being free of the V spell is like stepping onto an untouchable sphere where women presence have no effect on you. ( mind you, I'm not a chad, just a regular guy who got there)

As smarter then me said in the Sixteen Commandments Of Poon:

X. Ignore her beauty
The man who trains his mind to subdue the reward centers of his brain when reflecting upon a beautiful female face will magically transform his interactions with women. His apprehension and self-consciousness will melt away, paving the path for more honest and self-possessed interactions with the objects of his desire.
 

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"Chitre, an environmental lawyer and the founder of Priyamvada Sustainability Consulting, considers herself “a 9 or a 10,” but she says she’s done with gorgeous guys. Now, she’s more interested in “superballer” men with high-paying careers."

So they can finance her boy toy flings
Seems to me like she's insecure about him taking his fitness seriously , if he keeps his SMV high by staying in the gym he's less likely to be controlled and manipulated
 

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Absolutely ^
Only after you sample enough V, you're free from the V spell and can make an informed decision about a particular girl.

Being free of the V spell is like stepping onto an untouchable sphere where women presence have no effect on you. ( mind you, I'm not a chad, just a regular guy who got there)

As smarter then me said in the Sixteen Commandments Of Poon:

X. Ignore her beauty
The man who trains his mind to subdue the reward centers of his brain when reflecting upon a beautiful female face will magically transform his interactions with women. His apprehension and self-consciousness will melt away, paving the path for more honest and self-possessed interactions with the objects of his desire.
I’m here to tell you from the ladies locker room…These are the keys to the kingdom….
 

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The article is from 2017. I remember reading it back then.

I think the word “vapid” stuck out for me.

The thing I think today going on in the background is miscegenation. My opinion is it permanently damages women forever and the women just keep trying to hide it, but it permanently damages their ability to have a healthy relationship, unless they just stick forever dating lots and lots of black guys. Forever.

That is a big taboo in today’s dating world. Fewer and fewer white women who are not misled into the damage of miscegenation.
You mad bro?
 
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