Approaching the Women This differs for everyone. Here is how Anti-Dump did it: This is Anti-Dump’s Machine in a nutshell. I like how Anti-Dump does not give them the kiss or the sex. This DEFINITELY drives them nuts. Dee-Zy asks about the first date. Anti-Dump responded: But don’t women like men who are creative? Shouldn’t we do what women want? Now I am going to quote Vassago. He will be infuriated that I am quoting him in this Anti-Dump thread which is reason enough to do so. This fits perfectly with Anti-Dump’s Machine. You first need to figure out what you want and NOT COME AT A GIRL FROM A POSITION OF NEED. A guy who puts every facet of his life into chasing sex is pathetic. But the guy going through chicks to find the one that HE wants, that is the way. I don’t consider that to be a ‘player’ but if it is, then I’m certainly a player. Improving yourself makes everything easier but you STILL have to be SOCIAL and go out and meet all the chicks. THEY want to meet you so give them that opportunity. The ‘seduction’ material is only good to GET YOU OUTSIDE (since that is where the girls are) and blasting your old social barriers. It is *very* limited and shouldn’t be taken seriously or (the worse) taken as a life philosophy. The good of the PUA is how he can meet many chicks. This is Vassago's point. But this is also a core element of Anti-Dump's Machine. You will probably go through as many or even more than a PUA. The difference is that the PUA is trying to sex the girl while the Machine is trying to see if she fits into your world. It is a huge difference.