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Women and Birth Control

Desdinova

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For a woman to do anything, she needs to have emotional drive. If she's not "feeling" positive about something, she's not going to do it. Emotions dictate a woman's life. Logic dictates a man's life.

Some things can help push her emotions in a certain direction. In dating, Kino and ****y/Funny are extremely effective in this aspect. However, when it comes to the issue of pregnancy, the push can come from external sources. If a woman has had negative experience with children, that is going to push her emotions in the "no kids" direction. However, if all her friends and relatives are getting pregnant, having babies, and these women are clearly enjoying what they carried for 9 months, she is going to have a more positive push on her emotions, thus giving her a desire to have children. According to her words, this translates into "having children someday".

Another thing that pushes her emotions in the direction of having kids is her biological clock. The older a woman gets, the stronger her desire to have children before menopause hits and it's too late.

The emotions will help feed a woman's desire to have children, no matter what logic dictates. If she is not financially stable, but her friends are having kids and she hears that internal "tic-toc", her financial situation is the least of her concern. She must have a baby!

Since women are emotionally driven to do anything, let's take a look at how it affects getting pregnant:

- A woman who is desperately wanting to have a child will take her folic acid pills religiously.
- A woman who doesn't want children will have her tubes tied.
- A woman who wants to have a child "someday" will not take her birth control pills religiously.

Women who want children will be emotionally driven to encourage that need. That's why women are so horrible at taking their BC pills.

Women who are strongly emotionally driven to have a child will desperately do whatever it takes to have that child. They will lie about being on the pill, getting the shot, and even having their tubes tied. Some will resort to rescuing a used condom out of the garbage and try impregnating themselves.

So, where does all of this leave men? If they DO NOT want to have a child anytime soon (and when a man says it, he means it), they will have to take the birth control into their own hands. They are the ones driven by logic, not emotion. Emotion isn't reliable for making decisions. Logic is.

When a child-wanting woman is with a man who desires to have children later, she will take whatever necessary steps are needed to ensure that she gets pregnant. She will lose her pills (read: dispose of them), she will tell the man she's on the pill, the shot, or tell him that her tubes are tied, and will pull the "you don't trust me" card when he persists in using the condom.

Men, you are the only ones who are reliable when it comes to the issue of birth control. Take the responsibility away from her, and ensure that you are using birth control. The only sure way to know birth control is being used is by wearing a condom.

As for the "you don't trust me" card, her temporary happiness is nothing compared to 18 years of child support payments.
 

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i would like to add that birth control pills fail on some women, so even if you feed her the pill and watch her swallow it , it still might not be effective to her.

if you do not want children tommorrow, wrap it up tonight!
 

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BUMP

I'm surprised this thread only got one reply. Here's a recent horror story:

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=873825#post873825

Fast forward to this morning. I'm sitting at the dinner table eating my breakfast when I just glance towards the trashcan and something catches my eye. I casually ask my gf what the hell that is, and she says :

gf : "ooh, it's my pill holder.."
cent : "what? I thought you were on the pill.."
gf : "naah...I stopped taking them 2 weeks ago"
 

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Des,

You're right on the money with the emotional drive bit.

That is, IMO, exactly how women think.

Feelings dictate what they "know" and what is "right." Logic, reasoning, and rationality be damned. It's the reason for ONS's and other absurd behavior.

Heck, my current girl is a scientist and she still gives a lot of credit to her dreams (at night). It's unreal... until you realize what extraordinary weight they give to their emotions.

So yes, gents, assume your girl obeys her feelings before common sense. She doesn't think like you, so assume sloppiness in reasoning.
 

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I posted this in another thread. The unfortunate thing is it's only available to those under Canadian law. But if it helps some of you up in Canada, it's all worth it.

http://www.canlaw.com/legalforms/paternitykit.htm

IF YOU DO NOT WANT CHILDREN
YOU MUST OPT OUT OF PATERNITY
Protect yourself from being tricked into a lifetime of support payments and exploitation or being deceived into siring a child you did not want.

CanLaw's "OPT OUT OF PATERNITY CONTRACT" is designed to protect men from parenthood which they do not want. It is a contract in which both the woman and the man agree that no children are wanted in their relationship. Should the woman become pregnant in violation of the agreement, she and she alone accepts full and complete responsibility for the consequences, including all the costs of rearing the child. She fully and finally releases the sire/father from all responsibility, accountability and financial consequences of her choice.


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This contract is about
FREEDOM OF CHOICE FOR MEN, AS WELL AS WOMEN.

You must realize, when it comes to pregnancy
Women Have Complete Control

The law in parenting is entirely one sided in favour of mothers and women.
Men have no rights whatsoever when it comes to children.
Women control all aspects of birth control.
Only they know when they are ovulating.
Condoms are unreliable.
Women have been known to retrieve the sperm from a condom in order to get pregnant.
Women have been tricking men into marriage and support by getting pregnant since Eve.
Women who decide to get pregnant can easily obtain a lifetime of child support from the man they target.
The fact that the sire/father did not want a child is not even considered by the courts. This is dead wrong and does not reflect today's reality.
Women have the ability to control when and if they get pregnant. Men do not, but they will still have to pay child support or go to jail.
Women have the ability to control whether or not to carry the foetus or abort. Men do not, but they will still have to pay child support or go to jail.
Women have the ability to keep the child after birth, or give it up for adoption. Men do not, but they will still have to pay child support or go to jail.
 

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Go Canada :rolleyes:!!

It'd be pretty weird doing this.

Her: "So, since i'm your gf, lets have sex."
Me: "Only when you agree to Section 5, para m:, sub-para xii:." *hands her a stack of legal papers
Her: "Oh....so hot."

Haha. Good idea. Not practical in everyday life.
 

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oh blueangel, your genius amazes me. who'd have thought the solution would be so simple? :rolleyes:
 

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blueangel83 said:
Kids, if you're broke as hell and cannot afford a baby in this world, just don't have sex.
Dumbest quote I've seen in awhile, a definite hall of famer.

Good post Desdinova, I was going to add to it with my 2 cents but the above poster killed my enthusiasm.
 

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From what i understand getting your tubes tied (FOR A MAN) is a lot easyer procedure then it is for a woman. And If a guy wan'ts to have children someday, it is just as easy to get them "undone" If your not planing on having children for another 20 years, and you are planing on whoooring around, you might want to consider it.
 

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Spider guys can seriously get their tubes tied?? I was thinking of having a visectimy but i read that the % of the possibility of reattaching them decreases... and my lady wants kid in the near future. But i never knew about men getting tied as well. So when you come how would it feel? hahaha it would prolly hurt like hell.
 

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From the Chicago Sun-Times:

In a finding researchers called "alarmingly high," almost a third of all sexually active U.S. teenage girls end up pregnant, according to a new analysis to be released today.

Among teen boys who have had sexual intercourse at least once, about one in eight say they have impregnated someone. The difference may be the result of girls having sex with older partners or the boys being unaware of pregnancies.
Moral of the story: don't be a clueless teen boy, use a condom.



The statistics need to be broken up, though. A chart in the article says:

Sexually active teens age 15-19 involved in pregnancy 2002:

(Female teens only here, but the chart also shows males)

Non-hispanic white: 23%

Non-hispanic black: 40%

Hispanic: 52%




Though the article also says there has been some decline in recent years
 

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My best friend since high school just got his girlfriend pregnant. He's an idiot because he never wore condoms with any of his girlfriends because he hated them. So he thought he hit the jackpot when this girl who doesn't like taking the pill (these two idiots are a perfect match) told him she couldn't have kids because her cervex was damaged:rolleyes:

These 2 hooked up on a ONS 2 months ago and from my several meetings with her I can tell you this girl is no LTR material by any sense of the word. She yells at him everytime I'm over, she has problems with her mother, brother and family and now she's pinned down my AFC buddy.

I'm wearing a condom until I'm married.
 

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http://www.ibnlive.com/photogallery/...tml#view_start
The mother of all records

BIG MOMMA'S HOUSE

Argentine teenager Pamela Villarruel poses with her seven children outside her parents' home in the town of Leones in Cordoba Province, northern Argentina, May 11, 2008. (Pics courtesy: AP)

Pamela, 17, bore all seven children in just three pregnancies, having her first boy in 2005 when she was 14 and the other six girls in two deliveries of triplets in the following two years.
Pamela and her children currently sleep in the living room of her mother Magdalena who supports them all by house cleaning.
The father of Pamela's first son abandoned them, the father of the first set of triplets was forced out of the house by the family for beating her, and Pamela refuses to identify the father of the more recent triplets.
Magdalena requested to have her daughter's fallopian tubes tied to avoid any further pregnancies, but was denied as Argentine law prohibits the procedure to be done on minors.
 

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A woman not using any form of contraception wants a baby. Plain and fvcking simple.

When shes in heat, cover your meat. You don't want to pay 18 years of payments to support your bastard child.

Reply to Alex - There are 11 forms of birth control available to women. A woman who chooses not to use them, wants a child. So realize this, before you're getting diapers at 2am.
 
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Rhoto said:
A woman not using any form of contraception wants a baby. Plain and fvcking simple.

That's quite the generalization there mister.

My girl doesn't take any form of contraception. Not the pill, not the "shot", not the boat-anchor-in-the-vagina. Does that mean she wants kids? I'll let you in on a secret: she doesn't want kids, but she doesn't want the nasty side effects of a pill that messes with your system.

She would be on the pill at the moment, but I took her off. I prefer wearing a condom and having my woman be genetically and metabolically herself rather than having her use some anti-kid drug to screw with her hormones. I think the action of wrapping myself every time we screw, rather than her screwing herself potentially for life with life-altering chemicals that mess with her system, is a reasonable compromise.

I've seen how she is on the pill, and I've seen how she is without it. And quite frankly, I prefer her in her natural, child-bearing self. All it takes me is 10 seconds to be safe, rather than a lifetime of who-knows-what for her.

Anybody else with me? Who else is against the idea of the pill fvcking around with their girl?
 

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Actually, let's say I know of a woman who has been on the pill for the past 2-3 years religiously.

AND she wants children someday.

PLUS she is around children all the time (she is an elementary teacher).

She has NEVER had to go out and buy 3-minute Pregnancy Test Kit.

Take my word for it when I say that she has a VERY active sexual life.

So, how do you explain that?
 

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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