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A girl's tribute to the niceguy

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Found this on a rate my picture type website (seemed like the chick had a good idea of what makes a niceguy and what a DJ should avoid):



This is a tribute to the nice guys. The nice guys that finish last, that never become more than friends, that endure hours of whining and complaining about what jerks guys are, while disproving the very point. This is dedicated to those guys who always provide a shoulder to lean on but restrain themselves to tentative hugs, those guys who hold open doors and give reassuring pats on the back and sit patiently outside the changing room at department stores. This is in honour of the guys that obligingly reiterate how cute/beautiful/smart/funny/sexy their female friends are at the appropriate moment, because they know most girls need that litany of support. This is in honour of the guys with open minds, with laid-back attitudes, with honest concern. This is in honour of the guys who respect a girls every facet, from her privacy to her theology to her clothing style.

This is for the guys who escort their drunk, bewildered female friends back from parties and never take advantage once they are at her door, for the guys who accompany girls to bars as buffers against the rest of the creepy male population, for the guys who know a girl is fishing for compliments but give them out anyway, for the guys who always play by the rules in a game where the rules favour cheaters, for the guys who are accredited as boyfriend material but somehow don't end up being boyfriends, for all the nice guys who are overlooked, underestimated, and unappreciated, for all the nice guys who are manipulated, misled, and unjustly abandoned, this is for you.

This is for that time she left 40 urgent messages on your cell phone, and when you called her back, she spent three hours painstakingly dissecting two sentences her boyfriend said to her over dinner. And even though you thought her boyfriend was a chump and a jerk, you assured her that it was all ok and she shouldn’t worry about it. This is for that time she interrupted the best killing spree you'd ever orchestrated in GTA3 to rant about a rumour that romantically linked her and the guy she thinks is the most repulsive person in the world. And even though you thought it was immature and you had nothing against the guy, you paused the game for two hours and helped her concoct a counter-rumour to spread around the floor. This is also for that time she didn't have a date, so after numerous vows that there was nothing serious between the two of you, she dragged you to a party where you knew nobody, the beer was awful, and she flirted shamelessly with you, justifying each fit of reckless teasing by announcing to everyone: oh, but we're just friends. And even though you were invited purely as a symbolic warm body for her ego, you went anyways. Because you're nice like that.
 
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Hmm, well though I could see myself doing some of those things, alot of that is kind of extreme.

I think there is a difference between being a nice guy and a wuss.

Just to be clear though, most of that stuff I've never done. I tend to treat women like I would men, with some exception.
 

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Originally posted by Docs
Note the last line..
Because you're nice like that.

Figure it out buddies.
Ah, but the nice guy is the best guy, if you have confidence. Then you are best of both worlds. You can have the sweet innocent side and then also have the kinky, sexy side too.

I'm just saying that Nice seems to have a stigma attached to it.

I'm nice, but I'm not a pushover.
 

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Nice guys lose with insecure LSE girls no matter what. It's a lose/lose situation. Why? Most LSE girls are attracted to guys that treat them bad. It's all they feel worthy of and expect it.

There is an exception though i've noticed. LSE girls that go with nice guys end up dumping them (many of these guys are on Sosuave), but then go for another nice guy. They go for nice guys! But they dump them every time.

The other type of LSE girl is in essence the 'nice' girl but has been dumped repeatedly by the jerk guy. She doesn't go for nice guys but gets into a vicious cycle of dating jerks to keep seeking that approval and validation she can never quite seem to grasp from the jerk. It appears within reach with each new jerk, but ends up falling short (i wonder why).

The nice guy getting dumped by the LSE girl often thinks it was him that was the problem when it was all her. He thinks if he just would've done this or that.

The nice girl getting dumped by the jerk often thinks it was her that was the problem when it was all him. She thinks if she just would've done this or that.

So we have both the nice girl and nice guy but with LSE because of their dating experiences. If you're one of them, it's up to you to patch up your LSE and get your confidence back. It's only then when you're able to start finding more decent partners.
 

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Originally posted by superchristx
yeah, says YOU. Is your sex life everything you would like it to be?

Really, don't answer that. It's just a rhetorical question.
Hehe, I guess I have a different definition of "Nice Guy" then most guys. I don't take crap from no one and I've been known to tease. I actually use some of the advice on this site.
 

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nice guys tend to come through with the 30 and over crowd of girls.
 

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Everyone.

The OP is a tribute to nice guys that are...nice guys. This isnt' about a jerk, or Don Juans, or PUA's, it's all nice guy.

This is a excellent list of things a typical nice guy (or AFC) can and...quite notablely, will do. There is a grave difference between PUA's, nice guys, jerks and Don Juans..and I'll go over all those again..

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PUA - Exactly as it's said. Nothing more.
Nice Guy - Commonly called a AFC, insists that niceness will win the girl over, doing such things as above list states.
Jerk - The near-opposite of a nice guy. He does not care and in turn, creates massive amounts of attraction from the girl.
Don Juan - The inbetween of nice guy and jerk. Think of a Don Juan, a nice guy, a PUA and a jerk as a Square relationship with one diagonal.

Jerk___________PUA
|___\___________|
|________\______|
Nice Guy______Don Juan

The Don Juan has consideration and is a nice person in most aspects.

He is a PUA by using those qualities. (not calling, push-pull, on-off, techniques, patterns, etc).

He is a jerk by utilizing jerk qualities such as ignoring, teasing/negs, nexting at will, etc.

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Put together, you have a guy that may not get every girl (PUA/players take this), but for that, they get the girls of high value and quality to the Don Juan.

A Don Juan also has focus on his life, using his confidences and skills to obtain utmost happiness and independance in life.

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Edit: I'm adding this to my collection of excellent posts, GOLD
 

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Nice Guys are just people who you want to be friends with. There's nothing wrong if a girl doesn't want to reciprocate any romantic feelings.

If there are guys out there that feel this is unjust, why don't you make a move instead of hinting of a relationship. Girls aren't stupid.
 

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A so called Mr. Nice Guy shouldn't feel that he's getting the short end of the stick if the girl he's nice to doesn't reciprocate. If he does, he's not really a nice guy. He's probably a closet stalker. The whole problem with most nice guys is that they expect or assume that their niceness is going to get the girl. It's similar to some guys who expect or assume that their smoothness and pick up skills will get the girl.

If you ever expect or assume you're going to get the girl, you've lost. It's not about whether you're an AFC, a nice guy, a PUA or a DJ. It's the thought that counts.
 

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Alot of jerks are AFC to girls in the beginning by being extra nice (sending them flowers often) etc. Later, when the girl is in deep with the relationship, he starts to show his true colors. She then tells everyone "He was so sweet in the beginning".
 

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Originally posted by Logen
nice guys tend to come through with the 30 and over crowd of girls.
Yep, that's what Im waiting for.
 

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Originally posted by Docs
Everyone.

The OP is a tribute to nice guys that are...nice guys. This isnt' about a jerk, or Don Juans, or PUA's, it's all nice guy.

This is a excellent list of things a typical nice guy (or AFC) can and...quite notablely, will do. There is a grave difference between PUA's, nice guys, jerks and Don Juans..and I'll go over all those again..

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PUA - Exactly as it's said. Nothing more.
Nice Guy - Commonly called a AFC, insists that niceness will win the girl over, doing such things as above list states.
Jerk - The near-opposite of a nice guy. He does not care and in turn, creates massive amounts of attraction from the girl.
Don Juan - The inbetween of nice guy and jerk. Think of a Don Juan, a nice guy, a PUA and a jerk as a Square relationship with one diagonal.

Jerk___________PUA
|___\___________|
|________\______|
Nice Guy______Don Juan

The Don Juan has consideration and is a nice person in most aspects.

He is a PUA by using those qualities. (not calling, push-pull, on-off, techniques, patterns, etc).

He is a jerk by utilizing jerk qualities such as ignoring, teasing/negs, nexting at will, etc.

-----

Put together, you have a guy that may not get every girl (PUA/players take this), but for that, they get the girls of high value and quality to the Don Juan.

A Don Juan also has focus on his life, using his confidences and skills to obtain utmost happiness and independance in life.

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Edit: I'm adding this to my collection of excellent posts, GOLD
Hmm, so technically, I am a Don Juan then. Well, excluding the PUA. I'm not really that good/interested in that aspect. It's just that it seems that many get confused being "nice," with being a "nice guy."

What should we call those of us who have the right admount of nice/jerk, but not PUA?
 

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god im so tired of even hearing the word "nice"... Turning the "evil" mode on now :D
 

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so is it bad that im a nice guy? i have confidence, but its def not through the roof
 

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being nice is too boring. i like it when i mean to them. it makes me laugh.
 

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Inject what the chick described as a "nice guy" with some testosterone and you have the perfect Don Juan.
 

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I have plenty of friends who are girls. I go out with them, I party with them, I help them with their problems.. Hell, I even hooked up with a few of them. But they know 100% I'm not a wuss. I know when to put my foot down with them. If one of them is being disrespectful to me or any of our other friends I will say something about it.

You can be a nice person, you just need to have a backbone, confidence and a strong sense of self. After finding this site, a girl I'm friends with even told me "You sort of changed, but I really like it! You're a lot more confident."
 
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