I am able to become....the most hated man ever on this site....but I dont care..

This guys......is probably goin to be....my last post on this website....I love you guys, and I pray and I hope...that life gives you a wonderful load of blessings.

There are hundreds of threads here, hundreds of articles here, hundreds of replies(man, I am gettin teary eyed just writing this) but guys.....do you really and honestly know why you are here?

Why did you come here? For women right....come on guys, lets be honest.

We post in the tips section, in this section, all about.....what I did or what he did or what she said....all because we are looking to do one simple thing.....receive love from women.

Oh come on guys......you must admit it.....

Do you guys understand, when......it is........where a man becomes a don juan?

it is when he stops....................................trying.
Guys just hear me out a second, I know your minds are telling you this guy is crazy, but PLLLLEEEAAAASSSSEEEEEEEE....listen to me guys......please, I am beggin you guys.

I am only 21....I cant tell you about a lot of history in biology, or history in how man was created and how women was created, and so on...........I cannot even give you, as my friend frivolous says, I cannot give you a theory, to back up my claim........you know why......

because there is no theory guys............guys, hold on, wait.....dont reply yet....please let me finish first.

Guys......do you not understand? We all are unique......guys, God created each and every one of us......differently. Why guys, do we strive to be the same person? Why must we all do the same thing?

I cannot be MindOverMatter, and I damn sure cant be Pook, but I can be Pvssy eater...........

Oh God help me........see guys, we came here, because we were hurt, and rejected, and as a result, we hated ourselves....

but why? If we all are the same, then what, if anything....new or exciting can come from us now?

Did you guys know that not too long again, it was new and interesting to use certain pick up lines....now today, pick up lines dont work....why.....because everybody uses them.

Why do you think seducation does not work as good as it used to, and girls are picking up on it.....because everybody uses it.

Guys........do you not see the pattern! This site is not an answer, but a trap!

Soon, every guy will be doing the Don Juan stuff, and it will get old, and then women will want, something new and exciting.......
Something new and exciting......something new and exciting.....guys, do you not see that is it!

Something new and exciting.......is all a women asks for.
And guys, do you know....what is the newest and most exciting thing on earth.....your individual personality...

You....is what she is looking for....not poetry, not ****y and funny, it is yourself......you are exciting and valuable...

Guys, I am having a real hard time understanding this, and I cannot use big words like some of you guys can....but what I am trying to say overall is this.....

Guys, the only way to attract women......is to be you.

I agree... i don't need women, i do what i want.
Some guys here are purely out for the puzzy, which by the way is not the way of the Don Juan.

Also, I would like you a hell of a lot more
if you didn't have this whiny and appolagetic "Oh my god MindOverMatter is gonna stick his shlong up my ass so i better make it quick" attitude.

Stand up for yourself kid... and get some confidence.

i could use a good hot slice of pizza now

The reference to biology makes me think of one thing: everything evolves over time. Look at how men acted in the 50's for example compared to today. What was considered chivalrous 50 years ago is considered AFC today. 50 years ago nobody would have ever believed women would enjoy the crappy treatment and drama they put up with today.

As far as the new and exciting goes, it is my assumption that a true DJ would be able to adapt along with the times, as would any other living creature in a new environment or situation. Therefore if women want something new then the DJ has it in his mental capacity to produce such a thing.

Originally posted by PVSSY-EATER

Guys, the only way to attract women......is to be you.

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i understand what you're getting at with your entire post, but as far as the above quote goes, it can only go so far......

of course u don't want to become a carbon copy of every other guy out there, but as far as "be yourself" goes........well.......if "yourself" entails AFC traits (and let's face it, many guys on here possess many of those, myself included), then what really needs to be said is "IMPROVE yourself" - and that's what this site is really all about.

in my most AFC moments, i was still just "being me".......but that obviously didn't cut it.

i can see in myself certain elements of "the real me" that can capture the interest of some females - and have. those are not to be changed, for it's those elements that make me "ME"........what needs to be change are those elements of "the real me" that put off females, or fail to hold their interest past a certain point.........furthermore, making certain changes/improvements may allow us to bring to the surface other good qualities about our unique selves that perhaps lay dormant in us all our lives and we could not see before........

there is a stranger in us all we're all waiting to meet

Originally posted by Jake-inator
which by the way is not the way of the Don Juan.

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it also isn't a way of a Jedi Master



...anyways, I disagree for right now

you have to pursue in some way

if you just do what you want then you'll be totally isolated and lonely

My commets are...

If your heart is willing you can find a thousand ways, if not you can have a millions of reasons.

And your reason are BIG example.

Attracting women isn't logical. Non of it. so if you don't understand what is ATTRACTION then you are a confused man.

Nothing can make yourself except YOU.

You make a good point, eater. Even the whimpiest man alive will probably get a girl in the end, but that's not what this site is about. It's not about you getting laid. It's about you growing and becoming better each day. This site not only helped me with chicks, but also with school, sports and so on. The traits of a true Don Juan are those of confidence, self appreciation and love. Yes, love.

Only by loving oneself can you love others. And this site made me love myself, more than ever.

No one person is ever the same for any given moment of time. We change and evolve everyday. Material you see on this site just helps you to grow in a positive way.

You become a better you. :-D

Cheers to you, mate! You became a DJ!

someone is missing the point?

I found a great thing in SS/articles/Why Not "Just Be Yourself".

I want you to READ THIS AT LEAST 10 TIMES..!!! It's a MUST!

You see being a Don Juan is not about being yourself. And it's certainly not about pretending to be someone that you're not . It's about becoming the person that you want to be . It's about self-improvement and reaching your full potential. It's about feeling good, being happy, and learning new things.

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Me, my brother and a friend of mine all started with "weapons of mass seduction" at aproximately the same time. So the three of us are really a chick magnet when we all go out together, but we have a great time even if we don't pickup HBs. We are all SOOO different in so many ways and we all want different types of women..
The only thing we have in common is that we are free of the social fobias and we appreciate ourselves for what we are and can become... And we take no shyt from the ladies
Did I say we want different types of women.. So our approaches are as different as night and day.. Some are more elegant, some are agressive... But they all work sometimes and don't work the other.


My point is that this site, these articles are just TOOLS for your self-discovery. Create your own style. Think of a new pick-up line. YOU rule the world - not some forum or articles. World is your stage! Go and direct something, man!

One more thing. You must take into account that women are also totally different. In SOOOOO many ways. My approach to a HB is ALWAYS, you hear, ALWAYS different, cause you have to explore possibilities - not follow a pattern.

I think you are just becoming tired of being original and creative.. We all hit that low at one point or another.

Hang in there!

Do you guys understand, when......it is........where a man becomes a don juan?it is when he stops....................................trying.

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Very true words.


There are some here who believe that being a don juan is ONLY about getting girls. That is one weak train of thought. Essentially, those guys are changing their lives around and spending all of their time "trying" to get girls to have sex with them.They are a prisoner to the good looking female. They are AFC but in a different way. They're tryhards.

What I believe DJism is about is NOT WASTING TIME. Every second is precious and it is our job to make the most out of it for others and, most importantly, ourselves.

It isnt about just being yourself, because that would incur stagnating in your present state. It is about improving who you are and getting more out of life! Good looking girls want this so they follow, although I really could care less if they did.

If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you;
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or, being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or, being hated, don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise;

If you can dream - and not make dreams your master;
If you can think - and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with triumph and disaster
And treat those two imposters just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to broken,
And stoop and build 'em up with wornout tools;

If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breath a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: "Hold on";

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with kings - nor lose the common touch;
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you;
If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run -
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And - which is more - you'll be a Man my son!

IsiMan84 that is not evolution that is just a change in culture.

I think you should be the man you want to be.
Improving on yourself.
Be the greatest man you can be. Dont be a prick, no, be the man who you are meant to be. And I promise youle get woman (loads!)
Forget everyone! Be "The Man"

You obviously haven't grasped what it is to be attractive.

Yes you can't be pook, yet it sounds like you haven't tried to understand his posts.

Guys, the only way to attract women......is to be you.

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What if you're a socially inept skinny dork?


What is inherently attractive to women will never really change.

Confidence, mystery, humor, challenge...

Women will never be bored of these things.

That's like saying you will be bored of intelligent, fit and giving women.


Kaine

Did you guys know that not too long again, it was new and interesting to use certain pick up lines....now today, pick up lines dont work....why.....because everybody uses them.

Why do you think seducation does not work as good as it used to, and girls are picking up on it.....because everybody uses it.

Guys........do you not see the pattern! This site is not an answer, but a trap!

Soon, every guy will be doing the Don Juan stuff, and it will get old, and then women will want, something new and exciting.......

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I don't see "everyone" using seduction or pick-up lines. I think the "don juans" will always be a minority, because it is so much easier to be complacent and make excuses.

The purpose here is not to become some other person, it's to bring out your own potential. There's nothing wrong with that, and when you get your life together you shouldn't need to relly on pick up lines or scripted seductions.

You know who you are and what you want; you're just afraid of it.

You fear it like you fear death; you feel as though you'll cease to exist if you let it out.

You've been denying yourself for so long that self-denial has become normal; and so embracing yourself has become weird and scary to you.

Think about it. You've read how many posts on this site? How could you not already know everything there is to know about women, sexuality, etc?

What's standing in your way is not lack of knowledge nor lack of opportunity ... but your persistent refusal to break out of your self-imposed mental prison.

Still don't believe that "being yourself" is the answer? How about this: when an HB walks by, what's the first thing that crosses your mind?

I thought so. Damn, that would make one great porno ... she would've been yours for sure!

See, being yourself is exactly what you should do; being the AFC your parents turned you into or the poser that following rules will turn you into is what holds you back.

If you had listened to your balls instead of your brain, you'd have been LIVING what you saw instead of just thinking it.

That is what "Just be yourself" is all about; ignoring your fearful and corrupted brain and listening to your heart, guts, and balls - in short, doing what you want to do ... and it doesn't just apply to sex, but to all of life.

Once you've done that, you'll be like a dingo in a maternity ward, wild and free, with everything you could want out of life there for the taking.

Go for it ... you know you want to

Originally posted by Kaine



What is inherently attractive to women will never really change.

Confidence, mystery, humor, challenge...

Women will never be bored of these things.

That's like saying you will be bored of intelligent, fit and giving women.


Kaine

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I agree. That will never change in my lifetime. Calling people 10-20 years your senior, "kid" doesn't give anyone the perception you are "slick" or have your **** together. Instead, it just annoys people.

You say it was so much different in the 50's... but very few of us here were around during the 50's. We're talking about overcoming social conditioning - do we not realize that, when we read (or see movies) about "the 50's", it's through a social filter? Our daily lives are filled with the constant background hum of what we've been traditionally taught is "the way it should be". "A man should be chivalrous to a woman, and never reveal his sexuality!" screams the billboard that has a man on his knees offering a giant rock to some HB. The TV shows we watch, the commercials, the movies, the magazine ads, everything tells us the same exact things about the world day in and day out until we think that we know it intuitively - intuition does you make you AFC. It's social conditioning.

The same things worked then that work now. We are, biologically, the same beings. Nothings changed. If you want to know how the 50's were, go find yourself an 80 year old Don Juan and ask him if women back then didn't respond to seduction.

50S

What exactly do you erceive was different in the ffties? Oh, are you talking about pre sexual revolution and pre the pill? Or are you referencing Jimmy Stewart movies?

Man, chicks have never changed and men have never changed. You words may adapt but the same shyte applies, always has, always will.

GROW UP, smell the coffee. Remember when Playboy was launched? Remeber the sexual revolution? Man, sex was even bigger prior to these events, just better hidden. You do realize that dont you?

AFC behavior is still represented in movies today....great I say, let em suffer.

wow, this is actually a really good post. I agree 100%. I've never really liked the bible because it's focused way too much on techniques. Talk to girls like this, call her after this period of time, say this if she says that, etc.

mASF is even worse. it's downright geeky with the amount of scripts, neg-hits, and games they try to play. it's all like "i opened this hb and ran the game on her, then the elvis script, then the jealous girlfriend script, then i gave her a palm reading and afterwards i got her #"

this is unnatural outer game, and if girls don't know it now, they will know it soon enough. like pvssy eater said, it's just like pick up lines.

I don't like scripts, or neg-hits. I don't use the forced, artificial C&F that DD teaches. I've never used NLP in my life, and never plan to. That thing is a joke.

I agree, being yourself is the best way to pick up women. Game is built on trial and error, not manuals or workshops. Those can teach you techniques, but game comes from within. The more you try, the more you fail, the more you learn, the more you succeed.

However, it's not just that simple. Most people out there are living their life at 40% of their potential. They are out of shape, lack the hunger to succeed, and generally are so lazy that they'd just like to maintain status quo or find a shortcut. You know who these people are. They're the ones ordering those stupid ab zapper belts, they're the ones trying to act like a prize even tho they're overweight, live at home, and don't have a career.

If you are one of these guys, then being yourself is not enough. Not that I'm saying you shouldn't be yourself, I'm saying that you should improve until you function at 90%+ of your potential. Only then does being yourself work.

Anyway, good post.