Hello Friend,

If this is your first visit to SoSuave, I would advise you to START HERE.

It will be the most efficient use of your time.

And you will learn everything you need to know to become a huge success with women.

Thank you for visiting and have a great day!

Epic Tale of Transformation (Long!!!)

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Greetings fellow DJs,

While I am new here and don't profess to be a master by any stretch of the imagination, I would like to share my story in hopes that yall can learn from my successes and mistakes! This is definitely a long read, but well worth your time. So sit back, pour yourself a tall drink and shift your nuts to a comfortable position as I let the drama unfold....
 

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Chapter 1 "Humble Beginnings"

We all have our reasons for finding this site. Mine was named Maria. Dammmm, she was such a hottie! I'll never forget the first time I met her. I was working at this gallery downtown and she was one of our curators. We had talked on the phone and I had already flirted with her a bit, telling her how her voice is so sexy (the truth!) The voice was nothing compared to her looks and I was thoroughly unprepared when she showed up!.

I'm sitting on the front steps of the gallery, head leaned back, absorbing some sun rays when I feel someone tap my shoulder. I pop open one eye and am at a loss for words. She was tall, about a foot taller than me to be exact, athletic with delicious curves and a gorgeous face. An easy 10. I introduce myself as smoothly as I can with a smile and lead her inside, where we get to work on some promotional flyers for her upcoming show. All the while I am paranoid cuz I look like $HIT... wearing yesterday's clothes, hair all uncombed...terrible! Anyways, we finish work ahead of schedule and start with the fluff talk. Turns out she is an artist as well, also writes poetry. Man, stunning looks, intelligent and creative! My IL is going thru the roof at this point, but I let her talk about herself for awhile until she starts getting curious about me. So I lay my whole schpeel out. How I am an artist as well, produce music and write poetry. Her eyes light up at this and she asks to see some of my work. I happen to have my laptop with me, so I pull out all the stops. Show her some poems, play a few of my songs and she is really into my work. This was one of the few things I did right. Demonstrated a lot of value and had her going DDB listening to my tracks. She reciprocates by reciting some poems from memory. Turns out she is VERY talented and is the first girl ever to break my rating scale (she was about a 12!!!) a goddess!!

OK..pause for a second. Looking back, I'd like to point out some errors. First of all, I already put this chick on pedestal, believing that she crapped flowers and pissed pure gold. WRONG!!!! Even worse, I did not initiate any kino during this very powerful transaction. So many opportunities I was letting go right past me, but what can I say? I really was clueless....Alright, roll tape again!

We talk a little deeper about our lives and my nomadic lifestyle came up. At the time I didn't have an apartment and was couch surfing with friends/family. She is shocked when I tell her this, but understands completely, saying she had just gotten out of her couch surfing phase last month and found an apt. She asks where I was staying and I reply, "probably right here for tonight" which was true, I had been crashing at the gallery occasionally. So she really surprises me by offering her place as a crash pad. I was like "really?" She was like "sure, the place is really a work in progress so I hope you don't mind the mess!" "No problem!" came my AFC reply.

MISTAKE! Here is where I really messed up. A little C&F would have been perfect. Should have accused her of trying to get me back to her place and seduce me "I'm not that easy...etc, etc" oh well, back to the story.

So we get to her place and it is a wreck just like she said, but I ignore it, not wanting to offend (one of my biggest problems in life..shoulda teased her about being a slob..sigh) We end up talking all night, having really great conversation with all sorts of profound epiphanies about life. We really stimulate each other mentally, but again, this is my fu©kup...no kino, letting the convo last for too long instead of making her want more and being too much of a wuss to close in for a kiss. She even gives me the perfect opportunity with some intense eye contact after reciting a love poem she wrote. But I am paralyzed!! We just keep talking until about 7AM we finally crash out and I dream that I actually had the balls to do something!

I wake up the next day and leave her a poem. Another mistake!

About a week goes by and I don't call her, not because I am playing power-games but because I am super busy. This turns out to be a good thing as she finally caves and calls me up, asking where I have been. Despite all my chumpy behavior, this chick is still into me! So we set a date to meet for dinner and she offers her place for me to crash again, saying how she really enjoys my company, etc. I accept of course and end up kicking myself all night because it is just a repeat of the first. Lots of talk and nothing physical. I can feel that LJBF coming! I just can't seem to find the right moment to escalate to the next level with a kiss. I leave the next day and my frustration mounts...

I start to research attraction, seduction etc and find sosuave.com. I kick myself harder because I can see all the green lights I have missed. But here is the real kicker, I keep missing them! Stay over her house a third time and we are in the SAME BED and Mr. Fingers is still afraid to bust a move!! At one point she complains that her neck hurts and I offer her a massage. I am actually quite skilled with massages, hence the nickname... But she totally blew me out saying she didn't want one! I have never had a girl say no to a massage so I was stunned and kept my distance. This was Strike 3 for me. The next day I got LJBSed (let's just be siblings, "you are like my little brother!") which is MUCH worse than LJBF. She started to confide in me about guys she was dating and even told me about her first menage a troi experience she had with these two guys the night after we met! This bit©h said no to the massage but yes to the menage????! I was crushed. Across the screen of my broken love dreams were bright neon-green letters that read "GAME OVER"

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Chapter 2 "A Clean Slate"

Decided to cut my losses and spark a change in my life. As exciting as NYC can be, I was starved for a new experience. Already accustomed to living out of my backpack, I said goodbye to all my loved ones and moved to Spain, where I would be staying with friends and pursuing a career in DJing (the kind that plays records) As luck would have it, I end up meeting another Maria, not as fly as the first but definitely a very cute 8. After a few months on this site, reading ASF posts and DavidDeAngelo's mailbag, I am armed to the teeth with new knowledge and couldn't wait to try it out! I was chilling at a bar when I saw her. Damn, what a perfect round ass! (my achilles heel!!) I walk up to her and open with a simple introduction, "Hi, my name is Mr. Fingers. I just flew into town and love to meet new people!" which opens up a whole convo about NYC, my career, her career etc. etc. Got the digits and kept it moving. Not bad for my first approach!

We meet for dinner a few days later at her house. She cooks me a delicious meal and we are having a great time relaxing and talking. I mirror her a little throughout the convo and find that she starts to mirror me, so I start to talk about more sensual topics.. music, food, sex and life's passions. She tells me she never has sex on a first date and must really know someone intimately before that can happen. I take a mental note and keep changing subjects. Turns out she is also a writer and is showing me some of her work on her PC, when I start to dig my thumbs into that spot where EVERYBODY is tense, right where the neck meets the shoulder blades. I work a little Chinese Accupressure magic and she goes into deep trance for a minute. I pause for a drink of water and she is STILL tranced out. I ask if she would like to lay down. Not only does she lay down, but removes her top! So I really let her have it. Working out every tension point I can imagine and thus made my first mistake (or should I say lesson?) of the evening. I did too good of a job massaging her! She was simply too relaxed to get aroused!! Well fu©k me! She basically kicks me out, saying she was real tired all of a sudden, but we should get together again.

Where did I really mess up here? I didn't escalate the sexual tension when I needed to. Massages are great up to a point. I should have started massaging her ass and placed some delicate kisses on her neck for starters. The underlying theme of my failure? Fear. Not only of rejection, but of offending the girl with my sexuality! I should have known better, having read the DJ Bible. But there is a vast difference between mental knowledge and bodily experience. It's true what they say...get away from the computer screen and practice!! I didn't let my wussiness faze me though, she is still in the mix and I have chalked this one up to experience as I keep trying things out with different girls. What fun! I have absolutely no emotional investment in these chicks and get to experiment with the abandon of a traveling outsider! yeeeha!!!!!!!!
 

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Chapter 3 "Social Proof"

I tell ya there are few careers more conducive to social proof than DJing. Especially if you know how to work a crowd. Get everyone into a dance frenzy and you are guaranteed to have a few groupies lurking around! My phone book is filling up with so many numbers I forget who is who and write descriptions/ratings next to names so I can remember! To top it off, when I am not DJing, I am a social butterfly like never before. Inspired in particular by Master of the Universe's posts (THANKS MOTU!) I have learned to play the host of the party wherever I go. I say hi to people in the street, hell, I even talk to bums once in a while just to get me warmed up. The result? I have been here for 2 months and everyone knows me! I walk into a bar or club and spend most of the night greeting friends or making new ones. Still feeling a little intimidated by the 9's and 10's but I know real confidence is built over time and can already see my game improving.

You wanna know what baffles me though? Here I am, a good-looking dude, a little short at 5'8" but I know I am still hot ****, with a lot of talent and social proof coming out of my ears and still no f-closes! not even a make-out session! Evidence that popular, good-looking guys don't always get the girl. I was still missing something from my game and was determined to work on it. Spent the next couple of weeks doing cold approaches on the street, cafes, restaurants, anywhere I can find hotties. I get my approaches down but in the back of my mind, I know I haven't dealt with my real problem. See, I have always been able to get women very comfortable around me so approaching and number-closing is easy. I think I go too extreme with this comfort though, and they only end up seeing me as a good-natured buddy. (GRRRR!) So how do I defeat this inner weakness that is sabotaging my sex life? More practice!!

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Chapter 4 "The Jerk Phase"

After 2 months of celibacy I have had it! No more Mr. Nice Guy! Met this hot french girl named D at a club the other day and did lots of C&F. She turns out to be a real cool chick (7.5 with a great ass of course) and is also a bit of a nomad... Told me about her life as a gypsy and had me fascinated! She kept trying to find out about my life but I would never give her what she wanted.

HER: So what do you do?
ME: I'm a male stripper!
HER: (laughing) No, seriously!
ME: Is it really so unbelievable? I mean LOOK at this sexy body of mine! (Do some Mr. Universe poses for her)
HER: (still laughing) C'monnn, that's not fair! I told you what I do!
ME: Alright, alright..since you must know, I am a porn actor. I only do it for the money though. Maybe you have seen my flicks, I go by the name "Dyck Riculous"
HER: (cracking up)
ME: What? You don't watch porn???

etc, etc..you get the picture.

we swap email addresses (she hates phone calls) and get an interesting exchange of emails going. I am surprised when she calls me out of the blue and we talk for a bit. I try to close her for a date, but she is swamped with work and can't commit to anything. I keep my cool and steer the convo towards romance. That's when she asks the infamous question:

HER: Sooo, do you have a girlfriend?
ME: Hmmm...there are prospects, but no one has made the cut yet!
HER: My, my you are quite picky!
ME: I just know my own value and don't want to sell myself short...in fact I have a screening process for potential lovers.
HER: Really...how interesting! What sort of process is this?
ME: I call it the Girlfriend Test (pause for effect)
HER: You're kidding right?
ME: Absolutely not! It is an oral test of character..would you like to take it?
HER: Man, you are really putting me on the spot here.
ME: Hey no sweat..tell you what, I will email you the test and you can take your sweet time!
HER: OMG, you ARE serious! I just gotta see this!
ME: Just remember to answer all the questions honestly, but don't over think them! .... Listen I have to run and handle some business right now, but I will give you a call later this week.
HER: Wait!..umm okay talk to you later.

*click*

I email her the test, which is really just a series of profound questions mixed with a few personality games (The Cube..Strawberry Fields, etc) I also included the Water Game. You ask her what body of water she would be and why (i.e: lake, river, ocean,etc) and it is supposed to represent her sexuality. (Example: I am a waterfall, because of my endless energy = I'm a fu©kin tiger in the sack! ) She writes me back with her test responses. I call her to make fun of her for choosing the "easy flow of a river" saying she was a loose woman. Got her laughing and finally get a date close, even talked her into buying me dinner! She warned me she might have to work but said "We'll just see". At this point I ignore that red flag, cuz I am feeling so on top of my game until.....

She flakes completely. That BIATCH! The old me would have just let it slide, but not this budding DJ! I tried to call her to let her have it over the phone but surprise, surprise, she wasn't answering. So I wrote the following scathing email:

-----------------------<<<begin transmission

Dear D,

Ohhhhhhhh, I understand your logic now.

"We'll just see" = "I will completely flake on you and not call or write."

Well my dear, I don't know how successful this approach has been for you in the past, but I certainly don't put up with this sort of behavior, ever. So until you get your act together and dream up a creative way to make it up to me, you can kiss this dinner opportunity goodbye!

In the name of fairness, I will give you the benefit of the doubt here. Perhaps you were sick all weekend, or your computer bursted into flames or maybe, just maybe you finally gave in to your wild cravings and ran off with a merry band of gypsies to tour the sun-drenched coasts of Italy. Whatever the case may be, at least you know where I stand on the issue of flakiness. And you have to appreciate that because it is rare to encounter someone who places such a high value not only on their time, but also on complete honesty. Hell, it's not easy being this direct. It has cost me some friendships along the way and some people truly hate me for it! Fortunately, they are the sort of element I would not want in my life to begin with, so I guess it all works out in the end.

Ultimately D, it's a shame because I believe you and I would have had a great time vibing, laughing and getting to know each other...but then again, perhaps you are not as open-minded and adventurous as I had originally thought.

oh well

------------------------<<<end transmission

She called me an hour after I hit the "send" button. She apologized profusely and also said that she loved how honest I was! We set a date for the following night..to which she showed up 15 minutes EARLY! Talk about a turn-around!!

Everything is going sweet. We have a great dinner, lots of laughs and getting a little profound here and there. Then she points out a major flaw in my game. Says I have a distant look on my face and wonders if I am bored! Here I am trying to master a million acronyms from C&F to NLP and I was missing the most basic ingredient for success.....EYE CONTACT! I could tell that this really put her off and she ended up dropping me off at my place and then going home. I felt like such a dumbass!! Live and learn I guess .. She is still a prospect but not a priority, so on to the NEXT!

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Chapter 5 "Can it be that it was all so simple?"

I am spinning at this club and it is a slowwwww night. About ten people on the dancefloor, but I am in a great mood and spin my fave tunes to get those ten people as sweaty as possible. 2 AM rolls around and a group of fine honeys walk in, all 8's and 9's! They start grooving immediately and I am more inspired to mix up a good set to get those panties wet! One of the hotties (9) really catches my eye, a dark-skinned exotic beauty who was dancing incredibly. Real sensual and slow, going with the flow of the music completely. I could not take my eyes off her! At one point we made EC and I made sure to hold it just long enough to build tension and then break that tension with a smile and a wink! She turns to her friends with a wide grin on her face and I know I am "in". I play the last record and decide to have a dance with these cuties. I don't grind on anyone, just kinda groove cuz I enjoy dancing solo for a bit. Then I move in for the kill and end up grinding on my exotic target. Now, most guys try to hump legs like dogs on the dancefloor, so I make sure to keep it real sensual and slow, keeping her rhythm and dipping ever lower till I grind the entire length of her legs and hips. (easier to show than describe) The song ends and I lick my finger and place it on her hip making that "psssssst" sound, like she is hot as a griddle. She starts giggling like a schoolgirl and I have never seen this before, but her friends were totally winging me! Saying , "Man I bet he fu©ks like a champ!" They totally left us alone to have a girly bathroom conference. We fluff chat and make plans to hit an afterhours. The afterhours turns out to be wack, tons of guys are trying to hit on my 9 (no surprise but still annoying to both myself and her) so we catch a ride with a friend of mine who turns out to be an EXCELLENT wingman! He starts complaining about how his back hurts and he needs one of my famous massages. The girl is instantly interested. "you give massages?" she asks "This guy gives INCREDIBLE massages. Makes you feel brand new!" answers my wing. I nod and smile as I reach for her trapezius muscle and give it a gentle squeeze. She is loving every second so I persist with a light massage and I am not the least bit surprised when she asks me if she can have a total body massage. We exchange numbers and as she is writing her digits she asks if she can have one right now....at my place! OK..didn't see that one coming but I played it cool and my boy dropped us off at my apartment. This time I wasn't worried about overdoing it because the girl was on my turf. I worked out all the tension she had until she passed out cold! I was pretty tired so I fell out as well. The next morning I was awakened by the horniest girl I ever met!

Ahhhhh, the sweet taste of victory! Not so much a conquest over a woman, but my own fears and insecurities. I still have a ways to go but have improved so much and wanted to share my story with the people who helped me get here! (Big Shouts and Respect to SexPDX, Blitz, MOTU, Big Don and of course Allen Thompson...you guys rule!) As a sidenote, I also find it funny that I used hardly any of my strategic material..no SS no NLP no patterns at all, come to think of it, we hardly spoke! Eye contact, Kino, Social Proof and my own inherent dance/massage skills were enough to seal the deal.

I hope you found my tale both entertaining and educational. I will share anything else of value that I learn in the future. Good luck to all you DJs ...and, uh, thanks for reading this long-ass post!

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Cool story man, way to go. Loved/was shocked by the bit where the 10 tells you about her menage a trois ... man :)

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Awesome story.

Mais Je ne sais pas "menage"?

I assume "menage a trois" is threesome in context..
 

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Originally posted by mb121
Awesome story.

Mais Je ne sais pas "menage"?

I assume "menage a trois" is threesome in context..
Oui, exactement.

"ménage à trois"
A relationship in which three people, such as a married couple and a lover, live together and have sexual relations.

ETYMOLOGY: French : ménage, household + à, for + trois, three.

D'acc?

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Wow, that is an epic tale! U just inspired me man...I am learning how to spin records and this story just gave me a litle xtra motivation! I can't wait to hear more about your adventures, dude. As for DJing away from home, I have to say its the best thing that ever happened to my game. I have traveled to many countries all over the world and it has increased my confidence tenfold. Nothing like going someplace where you can make a complete ass out of yourself and not give 2 sh!ts because nobody knows you! Also, rejection is less of an issue when you know you will never see the chick again. My only critique of your style is that you give up way to easy. You build up all this rapport and attraction and hit one little snag and you are discouraged. It's cool that you are laidback about it, but just remember that persistence pays, my friend. Peace out dawg..and keep the great stories coming!

DJ Logic
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p.s - Dyck Riculous = Funny-ass sh!t..hope you don't mind if I steal that one!
 

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great stuff Fingers!!
 

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Thanx 4 the comments guys!

I just love feedback...

Logic you are so right on about my style. I have zero patience when it comes to DJing. My persistence needs improvement! I just hate to make even the smallest mistake and instead of correcting the problem, I usually just bail and start all over. Like I said, still got a ways to go, but thanks for helping me see my weakness!

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Oh and feel free to use anything I write, I don't think I am genius on this (yet) and am flattered you want to use any of my material. But really, the whole purpose of this site is to give us better ideas and tools that will help us relate to and ultimately make sweet love to these these perplexing creatures we call women!

Damn, I have been writing an awful lot today! Mr. Fingers must sleep now. Goodnight!

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One option with the massage with the 2nd Maria (whom you relaxed into a semi-coma) would be too make it more sensual (move to the tail, etc.) which I have seen work before ;)

and another option that works is to break it up---mid message, get up and change the music, start a conversation and resume when she least expects it, go take a leak, get yourself a glass of wine, whatever---keep her on her toes w/anticipation---do this well enough and SHE rips the clothes off YOU.
 

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Really inspiring stuff. It sounds to me like social proof played pretty big role in your success. What are your thoughts on social proof? Do you think it is more or less important than talents, etc?
I'm really curious as to how to begin to build social proof with a crowd you don't have much proof with.
Thanks. Again, awesome, amusing story, "D1ck Riculous" :)
 

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yeah

very good post I hope I could act like you in the future but for now i think i'm just a stupid AFC.....But I'll try to change. If you done that i can too
Thank you men
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My thoughts on Social Proof

A Very Good question, Duke. Glad you asked!

I find it interesting that you are trying to distinguish between talent and social proof to decide what is more important. I remember a time when I thought I could just excel at one aspect of DJing and have good game. But you see, the more I learn about this whole DJ mentality, the more I see how intertwined everything is. Remember, in the story I had social proof for a while before anything happened. It took a little extra balls on my part with eye contact, kino and flirting to push things. It's like you are a chef making mack-daddy stew. You don't just throw in some carrots and potatoes and expect a banging meal! You throw some fu©king zucchini, rice, beans, spices and herbs in that bit©h to delight the senses!

Just like DJing is not just about being ****y/funny or just confident or flirty. It is a refined blend of elements that, much like a cook, you only learn with practice what will be executed with good taste. I like this cooking analogy so I will take it further. When I first learned to cook, I would measure everything and be really anal about proportions and following recipes to the letter...much like I used to follow advice here. But in time I learned by instinct what works without measuring anything. I remember watching my grandma do her thing in the kitchen. It was almost like she was performing some sort of crazy witchcraft the way she just KNEW exactly how much to slap in the pot and it always came out amazing! Experience, my friends, is the greatest teacher of all in this classroom of life.

As far as talent goes, I believe everyone has a talent...even if you have never developed it, you still have it beneath the surface, waiting to be developed and nurtured like a child. I think an essential part of being a DJ is being in touch with this part of yourself, whether you are an artist or are good with numbers, whatever...you should have at least one area of expertise because it demonstrates VALUE. Makes the chicks, and people in general, want to bask in the light that you shine! Now the real smart DJs manage to combine talent with social proof. They are just geniuses at meeting/befriending people at any given time. One of my best friends is the most natural DJ I have ever met. He would walk into a club and leave with 2 girls.. one for me and one for him! His charm was so contagious, I didn't have to do a thing! His secret? This cat would talk to EVERYONE. He was friends with the guys who ran the deli down the block, the garbage man, the meter maids. It was fun just walking down the street with this crazy bastard because every 5 minutes he would bump into a friend. His talent WAS social proof, and I learned so much just from being around him.

Which brings up another piece of advice: Try and find yourself a natural DJ to help you with your game. One time I saw this guy at a club make out with 4 different girls. I walked right up to him and asked him what his secret was. He was a little difficult at first, but after I let him know I was sincerely trying to improve myself, he took pity on me and ended up taking me under his wing. He let me tag along on his approaches and I will never forget it. I watched him approach this dazzling beauty who was sitting alone at the bar nursing a martini. He opened with this crazy line, "Hey hows it going? (she just looks at him without a response) My name is Mr.X, and I am showing my young friend here what it is like to approach women that I find delightfully attractive (turns to me) isn't that right, Mr. Fingers?" I nodded dumbly. She had a bit of a bit©h shield up and came back with, "What, are you some sort of player?" I was thinking to myself "Uh oh...the gig is up!" But he floored her with this nugget, "Player? You must have me confused for someone who plays games. I, on the other hand, simply enjoy the excitement and mystery that every person I meet has to offer. (big smile!)" She couldn't help but smile and said, "Man, you are smooth!" she warmed up instantly and they started chatting. The whole time he maintained kino on her shoulder, the small of her back and her her arm, emphasizing certain phrases with a touch, even though they were just fluff talking. His eye contact was steady, only broken by occasional glances at her lips. Finally, she winds up ask HIM what HE was doing after the party. He looked her square in the eye with a straight face and gave her the boldest SOI (Statement of Intent) I ever heard and said, "Why, I will be making sweet, passionate love to you, of course" as if it were the most obvious thing in the world ... And he actually ended up doing just that! I was blown away.

In closing I will say that Social Proof is definitely one of the most powerful tools you can use as a DJ. When a woman sees you being social with and having a good old time with everyone, it does a few great things for you:

1. You ooze confidence and charisma because not only are you comfortable in your own skin, but you make others feel good about themselves!
2. It looks a lot less conspicuous when you turn your attention on her. After all, you have been talking to everyone...guys and girls. This way it never comes across as a forced approach. You are at ease because this woman, as hot as she is, is not getting any special treatment from you (not yet anyway!)
3. It makes people COMPETE for your attention, so that when you finally do talk to that hot 10, she feels a little more intrigue for you than the other ten duds who have been twiddling their thumbs all night, working up the nerve to approach her.

Advice to you newjacks out there..Do the DJ Boot camp. It is the perfect exercise to get your social proof up to par. You start out slow with simple "hellos" and build gradually to becoming the life of the party. Try it! It's FUN!!

Anyways, once again I have written more than I intended. As always your feedback is welcome.

Mr. Fingers
 

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Man, I don't mean to be an instant fan/ass kisser

but you rock mister fingers! Been seeing your posts around the forum and I dig you the way you write. (random thought: are you a buddhist?)

I don't have as much experienc as you but I can tell we have similar styles. I was also a disciple of David D. for awhile but have found that there are so many different angles to this DJ thang. How do you feel about the C&F approach? I tried it for awhile and had some success, but didn't like the competitive feelings it set up with me and the girl...I think I am too laidback to be ****y. Much rather be confident and funny! Still I did learn alot from the ebook and was thinking about getting the DVD. Have you tried it yet? The only reason I havnt taken the plunge is becaus that sh*t costs bookoo bucks like $300 to be exact. Curious what you think of this deal. Wish I had more to contribute here but I think you said it all!

thanks for this post

DJ Logic

"Why is common sense so uncommon?"
 

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It's like you are a chef making mack-daddy stew.
Hahahah! Good stuff man... just reminds me more and more that I need to break my social barriers. That is bare none the most difficult thing for me. I like parties, I like socializing, but I'm never the life of the party because for me it requires a lot of work and pressure... so usually its not fun for me. Guess I just need to get out there and work it.
 

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Man these are some great replies.

To Tesuque Red:
Thank you very much for the massage tips. I will definitely try these variations on my next session. (Rubbing my hands together with a wicked grin!) :D

To hihi:
You are just starting out my man. I can tell your confidence is not so great just yet but you being here is a start. I really admire that you are also a native German speaker learning all this stuff in English! That alone takes a set of balls. Props to you....and stop being so hard on yourself....Always remember that you are a living, breathing, walking miracle my friend!

To DJ Logic:
No I am not a Buddhist. Although I will say that, like all the religions, there is alot of priceless knowledge and fulfillment to be found in Buddhism. I just hate it when people take a great idea and turn it into stale routines and semantics. If you are interested in my stance on religion, check out this thread:

http://sosuave.com/vBulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=29437

As for the DYD DVD, my broke-ass hasn't purchased it either. I am curious about it though. Anyone out there purchase the Double Your Dating DVD series? Feedback on this would be excellent.

To Flyguy:

I was the shyest little twerp you ever met. There was a time I could not even look people in the eye! Pretty girls would look at me on the bus and I would look away as my heart raced in my chest. Yes, for years I was very pathetic! I really wish I would have discovered this site ages ago...can't help but be a little jealous of these 15 year olds that are figuring all this out when here I sit at 27! But better late than never, right? My two cents on your response. This is all about conditioning. Much like exercising a muscle. It is work and pressure in the beginning until it becomes effortless...second-nature! Now if I walk into a party and DON'T say wassup to everybody, I feel weird! Trust me, you are miles ahead of where I started so I have complete faith in you.

Man, this site is addictively fun! I better make up for all this computer time with some serious macking tomorrow!!

And with that final thought, I must yawn and bid yall goodnight once again...

Mr. Fingers
 

DJ Logic

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this is my favorite post this week, right up there with ass-slapping!

BUMP!
 
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