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Uninterested chicks won't fvck you!! Quit wasting your time on them!!

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Uninterested chicks won't fvck you no matter what you say or do....you are just wasting your time!!

So, why are some of you guys trying so hard to go out with these chicks?....you are not going to get anything out of it!!

Your goal in dating is to bang as many chicks as you possibly can

Your objective is to spend the least amount of time, effort, and money on them!!

So, if you're spending half your time trying to get these chicks out, you are not doing it right....your objective has failed and you won't be getting laid!!

Chicks who are not interested in you will always have an excuse to as why they can't go out with you.....then these same guys keep asking them out over and over again like saps...take the hint...if they flake the first time, what makes you think they are going to want to go out with you the second time around?

When a chick flakes on you.....the percentage of getting laid goes down drastically....so if your goal was to bang this chick....then your goal has gone down the tubes....why waste your time on an uninterested chick?

Uninterested chicks won't fvck you...but they will be happy that you will pay their way for a free date!!

So, when a chick cancels your date and flakes on you....there is no need to ask them out again....they already know that you want to go out with them....why? because you already asked them out!!....they are the ones that don't want to go out with you...because they are looking for an excuse not to....so why would you want to ask them out again? You are not going to get laid no matter how hard you try!!

Make these chicks show interest in YOU before you attempt to ask them out again.....if they were actually interested they would be asking you out if they couldn't make the first date

Don't waste your time on time wasters who aren't interested in you....put them at the bottom of your list and make them work for a date they flaked on....otherwise you are wasting your time and will get nothing out of it!!

An interested chick will do everything possible to go out with you.....because she wants to be with you....those are the chicks who will actually fvck you....those are the chicks that you want to spend time with!!

Interested chicks won't give you excuses and they don't lose their interest in you very quickly....that is why guys who say not to text are full of sh!t.....Interested chicks want to hear from you...in fact they will be contacting you!!

Do you think they would lose interest if their favorite movie star/musician/athlete was texting them? They would want to hear from them because they like them!! So, if you are some sort of "prize" that these guys like to talk about...then there would be no problem because you are the guy that they want!!

You can game these chicks really good.....but these guys refuse to do that and wind up going in cold to a date....when they could have already started the escalation process into her bed....doesn't make any sense to me!!

Uninterested chicks are a waste of time....if they are not receptive to a text...then you won't be getting laid....the text isn't the problem....her lack of interest is the problem....so, you screened out a flake and can move on!!

Find chicks who are interested in you....and don't waste time on chicks who are not interested, because you are not going to get anything out of it no matter how hard you try!!

You goals and objectives are important....use them on chicks who will actually be fvcking you!!
 

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This is ironic because the poster Jariel posted a thread about this site making you paranoid.

Sometimes theres an actual reason for a cancel/flake. The point is to be persistant but not obsessive. If you get flaked on, ask someone else and maybe a week or two later schedule with her again in a way that she cant really "avoid" to see if shes really interested.

E.g: Im free x day(s) at x time(s) pick whats best for you.


Im pretty sure theres a two strike rule up one if she doesn't flake the second time or something. Point is if she flakes dont go all AFC. Just find another girl who wont flake and after sometime ask the girl previous again. If you spin plates, none of this paranoia/oneitis will happen.

And the texting/phone call should only be used to setup dates.
 

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Exactly!

You cannot manufacture desire.....if she isn't going out of her way to make plans with you....you are of low to no interest to her.

Takes some guys a lifetime to figure this out...sad.

The irony is, once you get over the ego shot....and it really is a shot to your ego....you will be free...liberated from the confusion, the flakes, the no texts, no calls, disinterested responses.....the sooner you move on and spin other plates, the sooner she'll be forgotten.
 

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Then can someone tell me what '****-testing' is all about? If it wasn't for reading about **** testing on numerous So suave articles etc i would have dropped my one-itis a long time ago instead of believing she was just testing me. talk about confused.

in the words of legendary screenwriter WIlliam Goldman: Nobody knows anything.
 

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Then can someone tell me what '****-testing' is all about? If it wasn't for reading about **** testing on numerous So suave articles etc i would have dropped my one-itis a long time ago instead of believing she was just testing me. talk about confused.

in the words of legendary screenwriter WIlliam Goldman: Nobody knows anything.
A woman who has high interest will not constantly sh!t test you. The more doubts she has, the more she sh!t tests you. If you are constantly jumping through hoops, she's just not that interested or has serious doubts about you.

There is a good set of posts on the subject of finding women with high interest levels and dropping the low interest women, compiled by Pook from Anti-Dump's posts. There are several parts, I've linked to part 1 below but you'll need to search for the rest

Anti-Dump's Machine (Part I: Interest Level)
 

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Interested chicks won't give you excuses and they don't lose their interest in you very quickly....that is why guys who say not to text are full of sh!t.....Interested chicks want to hear from you...in fact they will be contacting you!!

Do you think they would lose interest if their favorite movie star/musician/athlete was texting them? They would want to hear from them because they like them!! So, if you are some sort of "prize" that these guys like to talk about...then there would be no problem because you are the guy that they want!!
Difference between you and their favorite star/musician/athlete being you are not rich, famous, and in high demand. Of course if she's interested, she is going to want to hear from you. That doesn't mean you spend all your time talking to and texting her. Texting on its own doesn't kill relationships, bad texting kills them. If you don't have a good reason to text her (i.e a necessity to get in touch with her immediately or setting up a date), then you shouldn't be texting her.

Nothing wrong with answering a text or two that she's sent you, but again you shouldn't be spending all your time talking to and texting her.

Great thread nonetheless, just wanted to point out the above.
 

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Frayzer said:
This is ironic because the poster Jariel posted a thread about this site making you paranoid.

Sometimes theres an actual reason for a cancel/flake. The point is to be persistant but not obsessive. If you get flaked on, ask someone else and maybe a week or two later schedule with her again in a way that she cant really "avoid" to see if shes really interested.
LOL @ this week or two thing that is spread like the gospel here

In a week or two if the chick is attractive she probably has been offered over a dozen dates already

I once let a friend log on faebook on my phone. She forgot to log off and I glanced at it and she had 6 date offers in less then a day.

The thrist is real out here unless the chick is super apolgoetic and into you, you don't have a week or two and this is coming from a guy with 4K approaches
 

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It's a spectrum dude. Some women have high il, some have none. Others give you a chance.

Women fundamentally are attracted in different ways to men. As men, one we develop a crush or whatever, that woman is on your mind constantly until you **** her.

Most women I have slept with develop higher IL once we have slept together than before.

I have a fairly average package by the way and I have never thought of myself as the world's greatest lover.

You're judging women by men's standards. IT'S US who know on day 1 whether we want to **** a woman.

I have laid plenty of women who started off rejecting me. In fact more often than not.

The other point is, lots of women want afc. Serious. I have only recently realised this and can think of 2 recently where I was nexted because they thought I was a player.

Sh1t testing by the way has nothing to do with low IL. Sh1t testing is establishing her IL in you. Women need to find out what you are about to decide you are sexy, unless you're a model, only the dumbest slvts don't judge character and just go on look.

I have go
 

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Some chicks get interested if you keep on going and you can display that you are indeed awesome. The point for me is to be a man that if a female can't see that I am awesome to start with I am going to move on. That is to help me making money, learning, developing, and helping others. For me the frame is always about building character, telling people my experiences, then I feel good, then people start being attracted to me.
 

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I'm guessing most guys on here are sub-5 so they probably don't have a lot of interested women in them. They have to initiate stuff or else they will be in their apartment fapping to porn all the time. Now this isn't justifying going after unattainable women, I'm just calling it as I see it. You won't have a woman showing a high interest level at first unless you're jacked, have money, or status.
 

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Golden post buzzin_frog. This is why I say f*ck more and analyze less all the time.

But most men will nod their head in agreement.. then turn around a do the same beta fag behavior they always do. Then they come back here to whine, analyze, and question these women they pedestalize.

Men think there is some secret formula for turning a woman on via "games" and manipulations. This is what women WANT men to think because it keeps those men barking up the wrong tree long enough for her to exploit his stupid faggot ass. :crackup:

Why would a woman who likes you, wants you, needs you.. be DIFFICULT to get out on a date? Simple common sense.

The only way to have power over women is to not give a sh!t about them. They must need you more than you need them. The minute you care more than they do.. all the money, status, power, PUA tricks, games and good looks won't help you. Sure.. it will get you in the door, but you will ultimately get crushed. It happens all the time to high status men. --> Because behind all the gimmicks.. these men are faggots.
 

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PlayHer Man said:
Golden post buzzin_frog. This is why I say f*ck more and analyze less all the time.

But most men will nod their head in agreement.. then turn around a do the same beta fag behavior they always do. Then they come back here to whine, analyze, and question these women they pedestalize.

Men think there is some secret formula for turning a woman on via "games" and manipulations. This is what women WANT men to think because it keeps those men barking up the wrong tree long enough for her to exploit his stupid faggot ass. :crackup:

Why would a woman who likes you, wants you, needs you.. be DIFFICULT to get out on a date? Simple common sense.

The only way to have power over women is to not give a sh!t about them. They must need you more than you need them. The minute you care more than they do.. all the money, status, power, PUA tricks, games and good looks won't help you. Sure.. it will get you in the door, but you will ultimately get crushed. It happens all the time to high status men. --> Because behind all the gimmicks.. these men are faggots.
clearly they are not otherwise they wouldn't be experiencing these problems.

i'm seriously thinking about turning into a faggot though if it'll give me the upper hand by not giving a **** about women...:)
 

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PlayHer Man said:
The only way to have power over women is to not give a sh!t about them. They must need you more than you need them. The minute you care more than they do.. all the money, status, power, PUA tricks, games and good looks won't help you. Sure.. it will get you in the door, but you will ultimately get crushed. It happens all the time to high status men. --> Because behind all the gimmicks.. these men are faggots.
I'm curious rheotric talk aside how does one make a women want him to need without game/looks etc

any real life examples on how you made a chick putty in your hands?
 

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Solomon said:
I'm curious rheotric talk aside how does one make a women want him to need without game/looks etc

any real life examples on how you made a chick putty in your hands?

VALUE --> Be the best she can get.. or make her believe you are the best she can get. :up:

This is not very hard if your only goal is to f*ck her. However, if you're one of those emo soul mate seeking men.. you've already lost the game. Don't even bother.. just be a puppy dog right out of the gate.

Might as well... since you'll never have much leverage without going for something below a HB6.

***REAL LIFE EXAMPLE (since people keep asking)***:

I have a plate right now that I basically own. Met her a few months back at a party. We banged a week later. Then she invited me out to a club with her friends. Once I got there I told her the place sucked and suggested going somewhere else where MY FRIENDS were. She refused so I just left her there and went to meet my friends and possibly pick up other girls.

She contacted me again to meet up that week. Said I was busy. Then invited her out the following week. We f*cked again. Also.. any time I text her she responds within 2-5 minutes. I don't always respond to her texts though. We f*cked weekly for a while then she dropped off for about a month (traveling she says). Later she returned and we started f*cking again.

So there you go. Just don't give a sh!t. :up:
 

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It's a spectrum dude. Some women have high il, some have none. Others give you a chance.

Women fundamentally are attracted in different ways to men. As men, one we develop a crush or whatever, that woman is on your mind constantly until you **** her.

Most women I have slept with develop higher IL once we have slept together than before.

I have a fairly average package by the way and I have never thought of myself as the world's greatest lover.

You're judging women by men's standards. IT'S US who know on day 1 whether we want to **** a woman.

I have laid plenty of women who started off rejecting me. In fact more often than not.

The other point is, lots of women want afc. Serious. I have only recently realised this and can think of 2 recently where I was nexted because they thought I was a player.

Sh1t testing by the way has nothing to do with low IL. Sh1t testing is establishing her IL in you. Women need to find out what you are about to decide you are sexy, unless you're a model, only the dumbest slvts don't judge character and just go on look.

I have go
so in this thread we have two opinions:

1) **** testing is low IL
2) **** testing is an IL establisher.

so which is it? or is it both? dependent on the girl?
 

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I love this!

Yep, women who are interested in you won't confuse you! No excuses, no games, etc. either!

When a chick shows low interest, she is dropped from my rotation until she makes a move (not likely)
 

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Showin indifference when she flakes, don't chase anymore and let her work for you, if she doesn't move on that's the only way to deal with flakes. Tryin new strategies or games or tricks to get her interest level up after a flake is hopeless, I found out.
 

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clearly they are not otherwise they wouldn't be experiencing these problems.

i'm seriously thinking about turning into a faggot though if it'll give me the upper hand by not giving a **** about women...:)
I would give my left nut to be a faggot.

Being straight has caused me all kinds of stress and depression that I don't need. If I were a faggot, I'd have more savings, and would probably have my PhD by now.
 

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I love this!

Yep, women who are interested in you won't confuse you! No excuses, no games, etc. either!

When a chick shows low interest, she is dropped from my rotation until she makes a move (not likely)
If women don't confuse men or play games with guys they're interested in then who was 'The Rules' written for?

And why do men need game if women roll over and spread their legs for men they are interested in?
 

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so in this thread we have two opinions:

1) **** testing is low IL
2) **** testing is an IL establisher.

so which is it? or is it both? dependent on the girl?
Everything in life is a spectrum dude. 4 billion of them. Some will Sh1t test, others not.

All I can say is I never heard the phrase Sh1t test before coming here, but it summed up a lot of female behaviour I have witnessed.

The most common one I have had is flirting with other dudes in front of you at the beginning of the relationship.

Sh1t testing is just natural female behaviour and unless you are top 5% I.e rich, famous or very good looking, you will get it off mostggirls. If you are top 5%, your values already there. Otherwise she has to see who you are.

Guys who are saying to next when Sh1t test comes or she doesn't seem totally into you I am guessing are high value. I have never had a woman show high IL from day one, except for the few that I HAVE fvcked who were doing so to get over a bfn, or just wanted sex, no relationship. Seeing as I don't want just sex anymore, I actually would, be put off by a woman who showed immediate high IL. I know I am not top 5%, so a woman who is high IL in me without seeing who I am or why I am cool, obviously falls for dudes easy and will be doing this with any dude equal to you or higher up the value tree. A woman who is difficult to get, and difficult to get into bed initially makes me have a greater IL in her.

The whole thing is guy's, YOU are screening her as much as she is screening you. You want a chick who immediately fawns over you? You are looking for a female afc.
 
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