Hi fellow DJs!
It's been about a year since I broke up with my LTR and I feel like I'm finally hitting my stride in game. This is my 6th new girl since my breakup. She's the youngest and cutest so far, and would probably be worthy of an LTR if I wanted it. I figured I'd put down the LR here for future reference, and also so that others might learn from specific strategies and tactics.
Noteworthy is that of the girls at the club that were initially interested, I only pulled the second best one (HBFriend, not HBCutest) so there's still room for improvement. Crucially, I need to *believe* that I'm good enough to pull the cutest girls.
In the previous few months I had noticed I was getting a few girls talking too much about money, probably due to me being too caught up in my job and giving off too much of a provider frame. This was fixed by ditching my sh*tty job.
I had also had issues with implicitly bragging too much by talking too much about how there should be more freedom in relationships. This would always get high levels of agreement, but would cause flakiness if I didn't get the lay straight away. This was fixed by clamping down on the use of any kind of sexual DHV.
Overall strategy, tactics, and keys to the lay
At the time of the initial contact and dating I was seeing two other women on and off. Neither of these were good enough for an LTR, but both were good enough for FB. Their contribution was to remove any desperation from the pickup of cuter girls.
Party game for me is generally short set method. Bouncing around and being super friendly with everyone, guy or girl, is way better than focusing too much on any one person and potentially coming on too strong or too creepy. Phase change when appropriate.
Isolation, extraction and getting numbers are done with confidence and straight to the point. "Let's go have a chat", "I want to see you again", etc are all good just as long as they are calibrated.
In one-on-one conversation is to let her talk much more than me. The less I talk, the harder it is for her to understand me. Do not talk about work, other girls, or anything that could be trying too hard to impress. Even sometimes go as far as trying to unimpress! Confidence vs arrogance mix relies on calibration and lots of field experience.
Phone conversations can have a little bit of chat but are mostly about logistics. No mindless texting back and forth, just enough for logistics. For attempts by her to do chatty text, don't give too much but don't be a d*ck either.
Kino escalation starts as soon as possible, but shouldn't be too pushy if there's resistance. "Wash rinse repeat", "two steps forward one step back", and "minor freeze out then ****y smile and go back in" are all strategies used, depending on the level of resistance.
Day 0 - The club
I get a text from one of my female friends around midnight, so I drive to the club from a fancy dress party I'm at, still in costume. Dudes and chicks are cat calling me in the street. Peacocking epic win!
I walk into the club, say hi to everyone, friend or unknown. Chat to my friends for a bit, then grab whoever is up for dancing and hit the dance floor. Just dancing around, owning the floor, totally in character with my peacocking gear. I start by going straight in for hi five and chat with the cutest girl (HBCutest, probably around 21) who is part of a 4 set with 2 girls 2 guys. The girls are loving my outfit, the guys too, mostly because I'm being super social and not hitting on anyone.
For the next hour or two it's more of the same, bouncing between sets, seeing who's interested. The friend of someone I vaguely know (HBFriend, around 23) is super keen, so I isolate her off the dance floor. Fluff for a bit, she's already touching me with her legs, all good signs. I do some palm reading, but then go slightly uncalibrated with push/pull. No problem, head back to the dance floor.
I keep going with this back and forth for a bit. I gauge interest by seeing who's gonna dance with me, but always ready to back off so it doesn't look creepy. (This is a major part of dance floor pickups.)
Towards the end of the night, I figure I've lost HBCutest, probably due to some hesitation in pulling my standard isolation move. So I go up to HBFriend and say "Hey I gotta go, but I wanna have a drink with you some time" and grab the number. She is pretty happy that I came back to her.
Text game
I wait a few days then have the following exchange.
Me: I still wanna catch up with you, I'm good on abcday or xyzday
Her: I'm good for abcday, what were you thinking?
Me: Pub1, does x time work?
Her: Maybe y time
Me: Cool, cya at y time
Day 1 - at pub
This one was my standard day 1 pub date. I met her at the pub, showing up a few minutes late of course. I have a real time constraint so the strategy is to escalate at least far enough so that she knows it's on.
Grab a table, I buy the first round (standard move, the girl always gets the second round). Fluff talk with her doing the majority of the talking. It's not really going anywhere, so I pull the "what's the funnest thing you've ever done" gambit. This is a good one because it's forcing her to qualify and also giving me an opportunity to DHV slightly.
I start escalation with pointing my body more towards her, then go to take her hand at a high point in the conversation while looking in her eyes. Denied. No problem, keep talking and drop back a few notches on the kino, hand, shoulder, waist, leg, starting with around two seconds of kino then gradually increasing it. Now the prolonged contact gambit, do leg kino like before but this time leave my hand resting on my leg with some slight contact to her leg. Then pull back, then more contact on her leg, pull back, then my hand on her leg as though we are already in a relationship. All of this while the conversation is progressing normally. Now go to take her hand again. Success!
I'm coming up against my time constraint so it's time to go. As we're leaving the pub I'm doing some push/pull conversation, too much push again, so when I ask if she wants to catch up again on Day2, she uses the standard HB fake p*ssed off gambit but I counter with "HB, come and sit here for a second" and calm her down. Chat for a bit, touching, etc, go for the kiss. Denied, hard. Go for kiss on cheek instead. She agrees to day2.
Day 2 - at gig
This one I decided to throw into the mix as there will be heaps of people I know there and I can use them for jealousy game. I've arranged to meet an hour before the gig because I know I'll wanna watch the band and will probably lose some valuable vibing time. Come in a few minutes late again.
More chatting and stuff, kino looks totally like we are in a relationship. No problems at all. I point out a "trouble" girl as setup for later.
As the last band's ending I go with my standard date extraction line but it's too late in the evening. No problem, day3 is already planned in my head so I tell her to keep the date free.
Walk out and pass the "trouble" girl and flirt for a few seconds. Walk my girl back to her car and it's time to say goodbye so I go for the kiss. Denied, but this time it's a soft deny with an excuse of "I don't even know you". I answer "I know", and motion for her to kiss me on my cheek, then go for the kiss again. Success!
Day 3 - meet at mine for a daytime date
Text/call just enough to sort out time for her to come over.
Drive her car to the coffee date, more chatting etc, still doing comfort stuff. Go back to mine, she says something like "so am I coming in?" "yep". Always assume the sell! Chuck on a movie in my room, wait a few minutes, then start escalating. Then I go like I'm gonna start kissing her, but at the last minute throw her line back at her "I don't even know you" in a funny voice. Great effect, she qualifies, start making out.
Three hours of escalation ensues. I take it slow and steady. At various times she "wants to talk" to which I indicate no problem, have a chat for a little while, then go back to the escalation. The pattern was: kissing, running hand along body outside clothes, sometimes going inside shirt at back, more skin contact at back, running hand along legs and ass, hand inside clothes at side starting to rub breasts on outside of bra, use single hand to undo bra clasp (this one should be practised lots!), get more horizontal in a better position. Occasionally there is resistance, answered by backing off then coming back to whatever caused the resistance. Off comes shirt and bra. She takes my shirt off. Start feeling ass, hand down pants, dripping wet. Take off the pants, go for the panties. Slight resistance, so kiss a bit then go back for them. Success!
Go into position for sex while making out. My pants are still on and after a while of her not taking them off for me I do it myself. After a bit more making out and stuff, she starts talking about how it's getting late. Rather than pushing too hard to get the lay and possibly looking desperate, I let her start putting her stuff on, and just agree that it's too late.
Day 4 is already planned in my head: her cooking dinner. Yep, pretty arrogant and it works a treat!
Day 4 - dinner at her place
Get to her place 10-20 minutes late, have dinner, then go to her room. She wants to watch some TV show, no problem, give it 5-10 minutes then go right into escalation again. This time I go super fast to get to where I was last date. Do about an hour of making out and stuff, gradually all my clothes come off as well. Now positioning for sex. I try the "holding her hands above her head" gambit and it flies with no resistance, but each time I take my hands away hers go back down again. Wash rinse and repeat a few times. Finally she puts her hands up and out of the way. Green light, sexy time!
It's been about a year since I broke up with my LTR and I feel like I'm finally hitting my stride in game. This is my 6th new girl since my breakup. She's the youngest and cutest so far, and would probably be worthy of an LTR if I wanted it. I figured I'd put down the LR here for future reference, and also so that others might learn from specific strategies and tactics.
Noteworthy is that of the girls at the club that were initially interested, I only pulled the second best one (HBFriend, not HBCutest) so there's still room for improvement. Crucially, I need to *believe* that I'm good enough to pull the cutest girls.
In the previous few months I had noticed I was getting a few girls talking too much about money, probably due to me being too caught up in my job and giving off too much of a provider frame. This was fixed by ditching my sh*tty job.
I had also had issues with implicitly bragging too much by talking too much about how there should be more freedom in relationships. This would always get high levels of agreement, but would cause flakiness if I didn't get the lay straight away. This was fixed by clamping down on the use of any kind of sexual DHV.
Overall strategy, tactics, and keys to the lay
At the time of the initial contact and dating I was seeing two other women on and off. Neither of these were good enough for an LTR, but both were good enough for FB. Their contribution was to remove any desperation from the pickup of cuter girls.
Party game for me is generally short set method. Bouncing around and being super friendly with everyone, guy or girl, is way better than focusing too much on any one person and potentially coming on too strong or too creepy. Phase change when appropriate.
Isolation, extraction and getting numbers are done with confidence and straight to the point. "Let's go have a chat", "I want to see you again", etc are all good just as long as they are calibrated.
In one-on-one conversation is to let her talk much more than me. The less I talk, the harder it is for her to understand me. Do not talk about work, other girls, or anything that could be trying too hard to impress. Even sometimes go as far as trying to unimpress! Confidence vs arrogance mix relies on calibration and lots of field experience.
Phone conversations can have a little bit of chat but are mostly about logistics. No mindless texting back and forth, just enough for logistics. For attempts by her to do chatty text, don't give too much but don't be a d*ck either.
Kino escalation starts as soon as possible, but shouldn't be too pushy if there's resistance. "Wash rinse repeat", "two steps forward one step back", and "minor freeze out then ****y smile and go back in" are all strategies used, depending on the level of resistance.
Day 0 - The club
I get a text from one of my female friends around midnight, so I drive to the club from a fancy dress party I'm at, still in costume. Dudes and chicks are cat calling me in the street. Peacocking epic win!
I walk into the club, say hi to everyone, friend or unknown. Chat to my friends for a bit, then grab whoever is up for dancing and hit the dance floor. Just dancing around, owning the floor, totally in character with my peacocking gear. I start by going straight in for hi five and chat with the cutest girl (HBCutest, probably around 21) who is part of a 4 set with 2 girls 2 guys. The girls are loving my outfit, the guys too, mostly because I'm being super social and not hitting on anyone.
For the next hour or two it's more of the same, bouncing between sets, seeing who's interested. The friend of someone I vaguely know (HBFriend, around 23) is super keen, so I isolate her off the dance floor. Fluff for a bit, she's already touching me with her legs, all good signs. I do some palm reading, but then go slightly uncalibrated with push/pull. No problem, head back to the dance floor.
I keep going with this back and forth for a bit. I gauge interest by seeing who's gonna dance with me, but always ready to back off so it doesn't look creepy. (This is a major part of dance floor pickups.)
Towards the end of the night, I figure I've lost HBCutest, probably due to some hesitation in pulling my standard isolation move. So I go up to HBFriend and say "Hey I gotta go, but I wanna have a drink with you some time" and grab the number. She is pretty happy that I came back to her.
Text game
I wait a few days then have the following exchange.
Me: I still wanna catch up with you, I'm good on abcday or xyzday
Her: I'm good for abcday, what were you thinking?
Me: Pub1, does x time work?
Her: Maybe y time
Me: Cool, cya at y time
Day 1 - at pub
This one was my standard day 1 pub date. I met her at the pub, showing up a few minutes late of course. I have a real time constraint so the strategy is to escalate at least far enough so that she knows it's on.
Grab a table, I buy the first round (standard move, the girl always gets the second round). Fluff talk with her doing the majority of the talking. It's not really going anywhere, so I pull the "what's the funnest thing you've ever done" gambit. This is a good one because it's forcing her to qualify and also giving me an opportunity to DHV slightly.
I start escalation with pointing my body more towards her, then go to take her hand at a high point in the conversation while looking in her eyes. Denied. No problem, keep talking and drop back a few notches on the kino, hand, shoulder, waist, leg, starting with around two seconds of kino then gradually increasing it. Now the prolonged contact gambit, do leg kino like before but this time leave my hand resting on my leg with some slight contact to her leg. Then pull back, then more contact on her leg, pull back, then my hand on her leg as though we are already in a relationship. All of this while the conversation is progressing normally. Now go to take her hand again. Success!
I'm coming up against my time constraint so it's time to go. As we're leaving the pub I'm doing some push/pull conversation, too much push again, so when I ask if she wants to catch up again on Day2, she uses the standard HB fake p*ssed off gambit but I counter with "HB, come and sit here for a second" and calm her down. Chat for a bit, touching, etc, go for the kiss. Denied, hard. Go for kiss on cheek instead. She agrees to day2.
Day 2 - at gig
This one I decided to throw into the mix as there will be heaps of people I know there and I can use them for jealousy game. I've arranged to meet an hour before the gig because I know I'll wanna watch the band and will probably lose some valuable vibing time. Come in a few minutes late again.
More chatting and stuff, kino looks totally like we are in a relationship. No problems at all. I point out a "trouble" girl as setup for later.
As the last band's ending I go with my standard date extraction line but it's too late in the evening. No problem, day3 is already planned in my head so I tell her to keep the date free.
Walk out and pass the "trouble" girl and flirt for a few seconds. Walk my girl back to her car and it's time to say goodbye so I go for the kiss. Denied, but this time it's a soft deny with an excuse of "I don't even know you". I answer "I know", and motion for her to kiss me on my cheek, then go for the kiss again. Success!
Day 3 - meet at mine for a daytime date
Text/call just enough to sort out time for her to come over.
Drive her car to the coffee date, more chatting etc, still doing comfort stuff. Go back to mine, she says something like "so am I coming in?" "yep". Always assume the sell! Chuck on a movie in my room, wait a few minutes, then start escalating. Then I go like I'm gonna start kissing her, but at the last minute throw her line back at her "I don't even know you" in a funny voice. Great effect, she qualifies, start making out.
Three hours of escalation ensues. I take it slow and steady. At various times she "wants to talk" to which I indicate no problem, have a chat for a little while, then go back to the escalation. The pattern was: kissing, running hand along body outside clothes, sometimes going inside shirt at back, more skin contact at back, running hand along legs and ass, hand inside clothes at side starting to rub breasts on outside of bra, use single hand to undo bra clasp (this one should be practised lots!), get more horizontal in a better position. Occasionally there is resistance, answered by backing off then coming back to whatever caused the resistance. Off comes shirt and bra. She takes my shirt off. Start feeling ass, hand down pants, dripping wet. Take off the pants, go for the panties. Slight resistance, so kiss a bit then go back for them. Success!
Go into position for sex while making out. My pants are still on and after a while of her not taking them off for me I do it myself. After a bit more making out and stuff, she starts talking about how it's getting late. Rather than pushing too hard to get the lay and possibly looking desperate, I let her start putting her stuff on, and just agree that it's too late.
Day 4 is already planned in my head: her cooking dinner. Yep, pretty arrogant and it works a treat!
Day 4 - dinner at her place
Get to her place 10-20 minutes late, have dinner, then go to her room. She wants to watch some TV show, no problem, give it 5-10 minutes then go right into escalation again. This time I go super fast to get to where I was last date. Do about an hour of making out and stuff, gradually all my clothes come off as well. Now positioning for sex. I try the "holding her hands above her head" gambit and it flies with no resistance, but each time I take my hands away hers go back down again. Wash rinse and repeat a few times. Finally she puts her hands up and out of the way. Green light, sexy time!
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