Guys,

So I'm on vacation in SE Asia (one of the poorer countries) where I'm from originally (migrated to the UK more than a decade ago).

My well meaning uncle is in his early 60s and gives me the following "advice" for dating the local ladies while I am here:

a) Open doors, hold umbrellas for them, pull out chairs for them

I think this is AFC and I don't feel comfortable at all doing it, do you guys agree?

b) Take a genuine interest in them and get them talking about themselves during the date and try to talk about myself less

I think this is the one piece of good advice he gave me - does this work and help?

c) He likes to compliment and flatter them a lot about their looks and in an exaggerated way, calling them beauty queens and such

I think this is bad. Is there any place for anything more than the rare compliment about looks at all in a good Don Juan's game? If you do have compliments in your game, what nature are they? I find when I compliment a woman's brains or personality and not say anything about their looks it helps me (as it implies I don't find them that beautiful, why not, LOL), but when I compliment a woman's looks it seems to work to my disadvantage

d) If the woman seems uninterested to begin with, he takes responsibility for raising their Interest Level by being fun to be with - in a spot where myself or Doc Love would just say, "next!".

I have read here and elsewhere that Doc Love gives up too early, am I losing dates and action by reading initial lack of attraction and thinking to myself, "I am screwed anyway", and blaming initial low Interest Level for dates that go badly?

Despite his age, he claims to date women in their 20s here, and that his success rate is close to 100%, and I don't think he is lying or has any reason to lie.

He is a senior executive at a major corporation here, e.g. he has the money and power, in a poor country and I am wondering if his "success" has more to do with money and power than with any game.

He claims he is humble when he speaks to them, but on first dates he likes to drive them over to his house and cook for them, where they see the nice house and 3 cars.

The women he meets are generally in lowly paid jobs, e.g. waitresses, or at best at the entry level in large corporations and typically live with parents or roommates.

No flames please just genuine feedback on what is going on please.

My read is that his money makes him handsome to these women in this poor country and he would succeed no matter what comes out of his mouth, and that he just falsely thinks he is winning them over with his AFC behaviour.

I would say b) is actually good advice, but the rest I should disregard.

Thanks in advance guys.

Yes, these techniques can work but only applied with one thing......Charm.

I'm guessing your uncle can tell a story? Has a few jokes up his sleeve, confident? Controls the room when he's talking? Smooth talker?

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Yes he can tell a story and has a few jokes up his sleeve etc.

He is a marketing guy by craft, used to talking to clients, so a people person and a smooth talker indeed.

Opening doors for a FEMININE woman is fine. I don't do it for a FEMINIST woman

Cultural context is very important. What works in America will not necessarily work in Afghanistan (or India or whatever) and vice versa. Your best indication of whether you uncle's advice is solid is his own track record.

OK but would these techniques generally be a disaster back home in the UK? I am going on dates while I am here just to try it out but not really planning on bringing anyone back home.

Is there any of his advice that I can apply to dating in general?

Scormus said:

a) Open doors, hold umbrellas for them, pull out chairs for them

I think this is AFC and I don't feel comfortable at all doing it, do you guys agree?

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Alot of girls will think you're fvcking weird if you don't hold the door or pull out a chair for them on a date. This is a case of taking the alpha pose into a strange and awkward direction. Better to err on the side of normality and do as men have been doing for generations. The umbrella thing I don't think matters as much but jaysus dude can't you even recognize how that brings you two closer for a kiss?

b) Take a genuine interest in them and get them talking about themselves during the date and try to talk about myself less

I think this is the one piece of good advice he gave me - does this work and help?

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Of course!

c) He likes to compliment and flatter them a lot about their looks and in an exaggerated way, calling them beauty queens and such

I think this is bad. Is there any place for anything more than the rare compliment about looks at all in a good Don Juan's game?

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I have never EVER seen a dude bang a girl without several compliments leading up to it. Rare? No, don't make them rare, just don't make them constant. But telling her she's interesting, then cute, then sexy, then fvcking sexy (more or less in that order) is needed. This is a case as in "Do as they do and not as in they say." I compliment broads. Professional athletes and musicians compliment broads. PUA dudes compliment broads. Period.

d) If the woman seems uninterested to begin with, he takes responsibility for raising their Interest Level by being fun to be with - in a spot where myself or Doc Love would just say, "next!".

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So many girls weren't into me when they first met me that I later turned into bangs. But I didn't actively try to raise their interest level. I maintained contact and eventually they "got" me. I didn't push anything but I continued being my fun self. If you aren't very good looking this is necessary.

An old roommate of mine spent several months of his life teaching English over in countries like Indonesia and Thailand. The reason he picked those countries was because of how the women treated him with respect.

This guy was from Arkansas, and had a huge southern drawl, had absolutely no game. At least, the game he had did not work for him when he relocated to the midwest and found himself trying to rely on his "southern gentlemen" demeanor to get lucky.

He is now married to an Indonesian woman and has brought her back stateside. I told him that he now is the time to GAME his wife NOW and make sure, like what was stated above, that she not get "westernized" and screw him over.

I would say that your uncle is really benefiting from cultural differences. That and his money/value make him probably irresistible to women who normally sh!t in buckets.

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"I have never EVER seen a dude bang a girl without several compliments leading up to it. Rare? No, don't make them rare, just don't make them constant. But telling her she's interesting, then cute, then sexy, then fvcking sexy (more or less in that order) is needed. This is a case as in "Do as they do and not as in they say." I compliment broads. Professional athletes and musicians compliment broads. PUA dudes compliment broads. Period."



Well of course I compliment too but I might compliment 2-3x in total over a 4 hour date. Is that about right?

While its not SE Asia, here in the PRC, I tell women they are beautiful all the time and act like a gentleman (the complete reverse of who I was trying to be in my 20's). As a result, I get women following me home after work and begging for it... this is not cool as I have a wife... so yeah your uncle is doing well. You'd be smart to get your ass over there as well.

I tell my wife she's good looking, she dresses up better for me. I tell her she's a great girl, she goes and learns to cook. I tell her she's sexy, she enrolls in dance classes. Its how you say it... the confidence and self assurance to TELL a girl what YOU think. Asians eat this stuff up.

Fvck running 90% of the game, that's designed for feminists and American women. (Garbage)

I know SEA well, my mum's from there. You can definitely do a) and even the compliments (do it from an alpha frame though, don't be like one of those K-pop or K-drama faggots). They're very feminine women and appreciate it.

BUT... do not overdo it if you don't have serious intentions and/or a clean escape route. Once you have them hooked, they are crazily obsessed with marrying you, and will hunt you down wherever you are lol. I had one of those, and she somehow found my mum's address to "keep in touch" with her. Years later, she's now married to some European guy yet still "keeps in touch" with my mum asking how I'm doing. She used to call me at 2am on weekends just to ask what I was up to. On one occasion, I was balls up in my GF at the time, and that was an interestingly awkward convo with both of them lol

Do not do any of that back in the UK! Unless you're trying to get rid of dem biatches that is... then beta the hell up!

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