“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Ok...this one was a chick i pulled from the nightclub..the single hottest chick i have pulled in a long time...solid 8.5-9 range. But first let me tell my whole night report..

Early evening hit up a pub called revolver and sat down by myself at the bar and ordered a beer....HB7.5 sits next to me and i think green light..nope she told me she was with her bf and she went back to sit with him...no big deal...

Some crazy guy from Spain who looks like a mobster or something starts talking my ear off and acting very belligerent and angry at me for no apparent reason...i begin to ignore him and he leaves...

at that moment a HB7.5 from Canada comes up next to me...i don't usually go for western women here in Taiwan because i love the local Taiwanese chicks here but i though what the heck...i said hey what are you drinking...sex on the beach she says and we start talking and clearly she is showing signs of interest tells me she lived in Thailand for one year and she took Muay Thai kick boxing i told her no way that is supposed to be intense stuff...she said you don't think so feel my arm...blatant asking for kino from her i felt it and said hmmm i better be careful around you rolling my eyes laughing...mocking her but not in a mean way...

She hits my shoulder and we talk for about 10 mins and she starts talking Muay Thai stuff again and then i show her what she looks like when she is training mocking her kicking somehting all girly acting with a girly voice...but again nothing mean...she gets offended looking and says yeah that's right i do it like that and leaves to sit with her friends...no big deal i think she will come crawling back...some dude from the US who i had previously met and talked to in this same pub a few weeks ago sits next to me and we have about a 15 minute conversation before the Canadian chick comes up to the bar with an orbiter hanging by her side...they are talking about baseball and she hits my shoulder...hey do you know which team in Taiwan Manny Ramirez got sent to....by this point i had lost all interest in her and wanted to pursue some hotter Taiwanese chicks...i just looked at her and said honestly, I have no idea and turned around talking to the guy shut her out comp0letely...she hung around for about 5 mins before giving up and joining her friends..and her she had this weird stepford sounding wife voice..typical ditzy girl who was not hot enough to compensate for her piss poor personality...

So anyways i leave and go to an all you can drink bar called Wax but i get in and there are only like 40 something people there all coupled up and dancing...so i think what the hell i will just get a drink or 2 and listen to the music for a while...i notice a white girl HB 5.5 talking to a super hot Taiwanese chick HB8.5 at a table....i approach and try to use the white one as bait...she tells me she is from Finlalnd and we make small talk and i am purposely ignoring her much hotter friend at first and then just as i am getting ready to transistion to the hot one her ugly ducking friend from Finalnd says hey i don't know what you are expecting from me i will not give you my phone number nor my email and i am no0t in the mood to dance....surprised i want to say listen you are not even a 6 stop acting like you are a 9 for god's sake...but intead i laugh and walk away because i know her Taiwanese friend would have no interest after her ugly friend turned me down...funny thing is i wasn't even hitting on the Finlan chick in the first place just boring small talk..

So at this point i got one more drink downed it and decided to head over to club Myst an expensive but packed club that caters to the wealthy in Taipei the capital of Taiwan. I get in and there are HB8s and HB8.5s EVERYWHERE....a wonderland of hotties...this club has the reputation of having the best looking people inside by far but also the most difficult club to pull a ONS...so be it i though...i am going hot or nothing..

As i approached the bar wading through people a girl grabs my hand and says hey my friend thinks you are cute...so i start talking to her friend who is only a HB7.5....meh i think to myself i want to go for at least a HB8....so i excuse myself to get a drink and when i come back the HB7.5 is waiting for me and then says she has to go to the bathroom...great my chance to escape i think and quickly head to the dance floor...started grinding on a HB8.5 and we dance about 2 songs but nothing special....meanwhile the HB7.5 has followed me there and was behind me the whole time..

I ignore her presence and head back to the bar and start chatting up a guy from the states who has been here for a while..he tells me people think its so hard to score here at Myst because most of the girls that come here are really hot, but it's because they go about it all the wrong way...the culture here in these type of clubs is you have to pick one girl who you think might like you and start talking to her and buy her a drink to show her that you are serious about her and have a long conversation with her before you try to get physical and then lead her to the dance floor instead of just randomly grinding girls or not spending much time talking to them...and the culture here is that the man always buys a drink for a woman he is really interested in and as silly as it sounds it sends the message to the woman that he wants more from her than just sex....


Impossible i thought to myself..buying a drink..that is just so afc sounding and never works...but then I started thinking to myself..this guy is right i keep going by rules i learned in the US...normally i am more physically aggressive and never buy drinks...thinking it is pointless and weak........this works on girls from the west and the Phillipines...but Taiwan is a very strange place.....and the general population regards foreigners (white people) as cheap drunkards...WTH i thought i will try it out...

So i started scanning the area to pick a hottie out...boom HB8 and HB8.5-9 range girl....i approach the HB8 and she asks me where i am from and blah blah blah i talk for 5 mins before turning to her friend and saying what about you, what do you do here in Taipei? she replies very well and touches my arm while talking....at this point i move closer to her and start talking to both of them and then the hotter one goes with me to the bar because we both want another drink..

I say....what are you drinking? i got it for you..and she stops me and says that's okay...how about you buy me the next drink? i say alright adn at this point both girls really like me and we talk together as a group for about 10 more mins and they invite me to the dance floor...the HB8 touches my elbow and asks me if i am a good dancer...i say of course i am the best..they start laughing and the hotter one grabs my elbow and pulls me a little toward her while heading down the steps to the dance floor and at this point i think the HB 8 is guranteed lay just because her personality is more aggressive and more green lights...but i say screw it i want the more passive super hot one..if i fail at least i went for the hottest chick...

I dance with both of them at first and then pull the hotter one to me and start grinding with her and all kinds of guys are coming up and trying to pull her away from me...shameless amoging...all bouncing off like pingpongs because of the good convo i had established earlier with her and her friend...

So after about 20 mins...i whisper in her ear let's go somewhere quite...i would prefer talking to you...she smiles and i lead her outside on a balcony crowded with people overlooking the city at night...her friend leaves us at this point...

We have a long converstaion while drinking and i take her to buy that drink on my own account and then we head back to the balcony and we talk in total for like 3 hours while drinking...i only bought her one drink because she is a light drinker..bought myself a lot though hahaha....but we had a great convo about where she has travelled to over 30 countires turns out she is a higher up at Samsung and markets some kind of chipset for them internationally....i make it a point while talking to her to not be physical at all only when she got physical first and honestly, i was having fun just talking...occassionally i made small kino gestures such as gently touch her back when she was laughing...finally, after about 3 and a hlaf hours of convo she tells me she is taking salsa lessons and loves to dances and starts grinding on me and at this point i know she wants some action...

we start dancing on the balcony and she shows me some salsa and i try to lead her with what little she showed me and then i start kissing her and we make out for a while and she tells me it's getting late she needs to head home...i tell her let's go back together and talk some more..she says what? no no i know what that means i don't just bring guys back to my place...sorry...

a little surprised i stick to my guns

Me: what so you are scared you won't be able to resist me if we come back..it's just talking...

Her: yeah that's it...laughing...

Me: You don't understand me i don't like sex on the first night...that is a major turn off to me because i used to be really big into one night stands when i was younger and now i just can't do it...in fact you would have to pay me to have sex with you the first night...it takes me a while to really get to know someone well enough (lying my ass off ofcourse)

Her: really...that's good so you are not like most men than if that's true

Me: yeah...i am me

Her: laughing okay okay but only talking and maybe some kissing

Me: hey don't corrupt me now..
 

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She laughs and we take a taxi to her place because my home is far away in another city....we sit on the couch to watch TV and talk and she shows me her parrot...this things flies out of it's cage onto her arm...really cool i think she just got even hotter and then the little parrot bites me when i try to touch him..no big deal..he got a little more friendly latrer on and let me hold him..

Anyways...after talking for about 30 mins and lot's of kino we start some heavy making out and i try sliding her shirt up...no you promised she says...are u a liar? I tell her no and if she wished she could try and seduce me and try to make me have sex with her but it would be impossible to do so...this seemed to make her really wet or horny...she started laughing and said ok let me see and was sucking my ears and neck and then she said i want you top seduce me...i said ok but i hope you can handle it...i start playing with her nipples under her bra and shirt and spanking her ass callin her a naughty girl...then i grab her by the shoulders and say let's hit the bedroom...she hestitatres a little but agrees and we go to her room with the parrot following and i throw her on the bed and start making out like crazy and taking her shirt off and clothes and we have some great sex for almost 2 hours or so....really intense...but the parrot was seriously jealous of me and was tring to come in between us on the bed and at one pint i was sacred he was going to try and bite my penis...this thing was super smart..i was surprised at just how intelligent and emotional this little bird was...anyways.....then i pass out from the alcohol..

Wake up in the morning to an all morning and afternoon sex-a-thon...i banged her about 7-8 times cumming every time.....she was impressed with my stamina

And we have a going to beach date set up 2 weekends from now..she said she has never had sex on the beach and wants to try it with me...i will bring a blanket and an umbrella...i postponed the date for 1 week because next weekend i need to train hardcore kungfu and keep my body sober from alcohol just for personal reasons....

but anyways this is my best looking lay perhaps ever...almost a bonafide 9...literally looks like an exotic princess and has a high powered job and is a very experienced traveler.....usually i am very very sexually aggressive but this time i put in a lot of time showed that i wasn't dependent on sex outcome and was patient and it paid off big time...
 
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zinc4 said:
usually i am very very sexually aggressive but this time i put in a lot of time showed that i wasn't dependent on sex outcome and was patient and it paid off big time...
I believe truely this is the most important phrase in this way too long story. Last night i had a ONS with a girl from town here, pure because i wasn´t dependent on the sex outcome as well, at some point i just knew the ONS would happen. So the only thing i had to do was having patient and fun. Two other guys tried to grab her attention but twice it was for a short while, she came back to me. One of these guys came back to me and the girl several times trying to grab her attention again but the harder he tried the more relaxed i became. He was so focused on the outcome and not patient. At some moment he stopped though. At the end of the night the girl and i biked to her place and the rest i don´t need to tell. Got home today around noon...
 

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I believe truely this is the most important phrase in this way too long story. Last night i had a ONS with a girl from town here, pure because i wasn´t dependent on the sex outcome as well, at some point i just knew the ONS would happen. So the only thing i had to do was having patient and fun. Two other guys tried to grab her attention but twice it was for a short while, she came back to me. One of these guys came back to me and the girl several times trying to grab her attention again but the harder he tried the more relaxed i became. He was so focused on the outcome and not patient. At some moment he stopped though. At the end of the night the girl and i biked to her place and the rest i don´t need to tell. Got home today around noon...

Yeah, it is long...but i like to post as many details as possible for the people newer at this to pick stuff up on. Also...like to show that don't let rejection phase you...i was rejected a good bit that night before scoring my best lay ever.
 

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update: texted her yesterday...the next day after leaving her place....i admit...she has far greater potential than just being another plate due to her looks, career status and all the stuff we have in common and physical chemistry of course...

Me: hey! had a great time with you and have good news, found a highly rated Korean BBQ place in Taipei (we both lived in Korea for a while and both love Korean BBQ and discussed how it is almost impossible to find a good one in Taiwan)

Her: Sounds good!! which restaurant?? I also had a good time with you and hope you got home smoothly ~

Me: Seoul Korean BBQ, anyways hope you have a good day :p

Her: yum yum ; (referring to my toungue...because while in bed we talked about how good each other's toungue's tasted)

Me: :)

Normally i don't like using similes and especially smilely faces, but i am playing the nice but slightly aloof card with this. I estimate her IL is pretty high...but it will shoot a lot higher once i get with her again....it always tends to work that way for me...1st time is reeling them in and 2nd time is the hook...
 

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zinc4 said:
update: texted her yesterday...the next day after leaving her place....i admit...she has far greater potential than just being another plate due to her looks, career status and all the stuff we have in common and physical chemistry of course...

Me: hey! had a great time with you and have good news, found a highly rated Korean BBQ place in Taipei (we both lived in Korea for a while and both love Korean BBQ and discussed how it is almost impossible to find a good one in Taiwan)

Her: Sounds good!! which restaurant?? I also had a good time with you and hope you got home smoothly ~

Me: Seoul Korean BBQ, anyways hope you have a good day :p

Her: yum yum ; (referring to my toungue...because while in bed we talked about how good each other's toungue's tasted)

Me: :)

Normally i don't like using similes and especially smilely faces, but i am playing the nice but slightly aloof card with this. I estimate her IL is pretty high...but it will shoot a lot higher once i get with her again....it always tends to work that way for me...1st time is reeling them in and 2nd time is the hook...
Damn, you find a girl(boy) you actually like and the White Knight just flows out of you like the huge amount of love juice you spilled the other night with Ms. Lady boy. What happened to "I'm the biggest bad azz DJ of all timeezzzz"?

Talk of an actual relationship

Talk about how great she(he) is-putting her(him) right up there on dat there pedestal

Searching out potential future date sites ahead of time

Multiple smiley faces

That is even way more than I would do, and according to you I'm the biggest WK on this forum. Where does that put you?


You turned right into a mushy azz white knight beotccchhh! Funny how all that PUA artist BS gets toned down when you actually find someone you like and respect huh?
 

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Damn, you find a girl(boy) you actually like and the White Knight just flows out of you like the huge amount of love juice you spilled the other night with Ms. Lady boy.

Talk of an actual relationship

Talk about how great she(he) is-putting her(him) right up there on dat there pedestal

Searching out potential future date sites ahead of time

Multiple smiley faces


You turned right into a mushy azz white knight beotccchhh!

Dude...i was just speculating....it would actually be impossible because i have to leave this country really soon........you don't understand my game...once 2nd date is finished i will go completely aloof and she will be my sex slave like my plates..at that point it will be my decision to elevate her or not gradually...also my sex drive for one woman dramatically lowers after 2nd encounter...i know what i am doing.....either way i won't be posting pic after pic of her on this site like what you do you little b&tch....by the way she like so many others here puts your oneities to shame....

you are such a little b&tch it's not even funny....you can use similes and act a tad AFC if you know you are the one holding the power and guess what? i am the one with the power in this situation because i am willing to walk anytime i want to and she practically begged me not to leave her apartment when i was going the other day....also she asked me multiple times why i couldn't do something this coming weekend instead of waiting 2 weeks to meet again...and was talking about how excited she was about going to the beach with me....push pull man push pull

but then again you wouldn't understand that concept because in your relationship it is downright obvious your girl has the power and not you.....who wears the pants in that one anyways Concord? could you walk away anytime you wanted to or let her walk??? no, you would be on your knees crying like the little ***** that you are
 

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zinc4 said:
Dude...i was just speculating....it would actually be impossible because i have to leave this country really soon........you don't understand my game...once 2nd date is finished i will go completely aloof and she will be my sex slave like my plates..at that point it will be my decision to elevate her or not gradually...also my sex drive for one woman dramatically lowers after 2nd encounter...i know what i am doing.....either way i won't be posting pic after pic of her on this site like what you do you little b&tch....by the way she puts your oneities to shame....

you are such a little b&tch it's not even funny....you can use similes and act a tad AFC if you know you are the one holding the power and guess what? i am the one with the power in this situation but then again you wouldn't understand that concept because in your relationship it is downright obvious your girl has the power and not you.....who wears the pants in that one anyways Concord...
Great excuses

Great rationalization

Great everything!

Fact is you met a girl (boy) and she (he) got your penor all stiffy and you caved into the meek little WK boy that you are and that has been hiding out all along! I have found that those that protest to much against something, those that criticize someone or something the most, are usually those that have the most to hide and in fact the very thing that they say they despise!

Carry on! :) :) :) :) :) :)
 

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cordoncordon said:
Great excuses

Great rationalization

Great everything!

Fact is you met a girl (boy) and she (he) got your penor all stiffy and you caved into the meek little WK boy that you are and that has been hiding out all along! I have found that those that protest to much against something, those that criticize someone or something the most, are usually those that have the most to hide and in fact the very thing that they say they despise!

Carry on! :) :) :) :) :) :)
You are calling someone else a white knight???????? This is rich....you are the biggest most notorious WK on this site....if i was hiding something like what you say i damn well wouldn't post a text convo of me using similes....now quit flaming my thread you little roided out AFC and go whack off to your onenitis shrine
 

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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Update: was raining yesterday so no beach..she texts me saying oops it's raining...i send back yeah, some red wine and a movie at your place sounds good...hahaha ok, she says same place and time right?

I get to her place after meeting her at the train station and we are having really deep convo and i start thinking to myself how good conversation is a huge part of having good intimate sex...and that convo can even carry into the sex if that makes any sense....it's really just huge to get a woman emotionally going through convo and foreplay...shortly after talking for an hour or so and foreplay pick her up, take her to her bed for some great sex..

Once again...she told me all about her past and guys who have supposedly tried to unsuccessfully control her and stuff like that and how she is always the one with the power in relationships...and she of course was throwing a lot of tests out showing me pictures of what she claims was the one guy she was ever infatuated with but he turned out to be a gay...very good looking guy no homo...i told her that as well and ignored her tests of jealousy and her attempting to command me to do stuff...example hold my umbrella right now...me...only if you say please and lick my face....stuff like this....she then at one point said wow you are so confident...most guys get jealous easy when i do stuff like this and try to control me.....

She has a big hangup on power in relationships..and wants or at least acts like she wants to be the dominant one and at one point i was just having fun and showing her pictures of my favorite college football team's stadium and trying to get her to sing the fight song with me... and she said...i see what you are trying to...get me to follow you....guys always try to do that...i looked at her like she was crazy and told her to relax and have fun no one is trying to get anyone to follow just having fun...

But after a few more sex sessions her big bravado and act of attempting dominance was fading quickly and she was submitting to me with everything...and later we went to have dinner in an empty resturaunt..just the staff there and us and before hand she was always talking about how she had never had sex in a public place and wanted to try it but was always too scared...so her outfit and stalkings were turning me on and i had a bit of wine in me and wanted to get her to 100 percent submit to me without any questions...

she went into the bathroom and without her knowing at first i followed her about a minute later and opened the door and she was very surprised looking...there was a mirror in front of us...i first locked the door and then grabbed her kissing her and pulled up her skirt and she was saying no no we can't what are doing???? blah blah and i told her shut up and get on the floor so I can **** you......her eyes lit up with desire and i picked her up and laid her on the floor and banged her for a very short time....5-10 mins and she was talking about how excited she was....and when we got back to her place we went at it for hours...she later told me i gave her the most intense sex she has ever experienced....and she is even calling me baby now...lol

a side note....i really want a little parrot now...her parrot is freakin awesome and is very intelligent..i never knew they could be that smart...she can literally talk to him at times and he talks back or communicates back..not just purely mimicking...and he flies around and lands on her shoulder whenever she calls him and he is a very jealous little guy..i am definitely getting one of my own..
 

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parrots are a pain in the ass to take care off zinc, they eat and **** all the time
also they will escape as soon as an opportunity arrives
anyway if you want a talking parrot, get a baby parrot who just hatched from an egg, then they are more likely to learn complicated words in the future

just dont use certain words around them like sh!t and fvck, they are easy and surprisingly enjoyable for these critters, my parrot used to say "fvck off" when anyone entered or exited my house

what is the species you want to get?
 

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parrots are a pain in the ass to take care off zinc, they eat and **** all the time
also they will escape as soon as an opportunity arrives
anyway if you want a talking parrot, get a baby parrot who just hatched from an egg, then they are more likely to learn complicated words in the future

just dont use certain words around them like sh!t and fvck, they are easy and surprisingly enjoyable for these critters, my parrot used to say "fvck off" when anyone entered or exited my house

what is the species you want to get?
Maybe so......but i am an animal lover and have had many different kinds of pets growing up...it's an African Grey...they are really cool.
 

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Maybe so......but i am an animal lover and have had many different kinds of pets growing up...it's an African Grey...they are really cool.
oh i had an african grey his name was salar lol! really cute birds,my one would always walk around the house for adventures,like drinking from the toilet or stealing my toast :crackup:

but he was like really jealous, as in once some guests came over and we were talking, then this guy comes over and starts attention-wh0ring, like saying some words that he knew were cute (yes they are that intelligent), then he started to dance, no fvcks given.....
so he jumps on one of the guests and starts to really pick the guy's nose and say : "fvck"

i used to play gears of war and every time the berserker came on he would say "oh boy" ...

yeah just make sure to get a baby, adults cant learn anything :rock:
 

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+1 Great stuff Zinc, you adapted to the situation and it worked a treat. :up:

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**** that unsuccesful-****blocking bird and awesome **** report. I had a hell of a time reading it hahaha.
 

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Update: was raining yesterday so no beach..she texts me saying oops it's raining...i send back yeah, some red wine and a movie at your place sounds good...hahaha ok, she says same place and time right?

I get to her place after meeting her at the train station and we are having really deep convo and i start thinking to myself how good conversation is a huge part of having good intimate sex...and that convo can even carry into the sex if that makes any sense....it's really just huge to get a woman emotionally going through convo and foreplay...shortly after talking for an hour or so and foreplay pick her up, take her to her bed for some great sex..

Once again...she told me all about her past and guys who have supposedly tried to unsuccessfully control her and stuff like that and how she is always the one with the power in relationships...and she of course was throwing a lot of tests out showing me pictures of what she claims was the one guy she was ever infatuated with but he turned out to be a gay...very good looking guy no homo...i told her that as well and ignored her tests of jealousy and her attempting to command me to do stuff...example hold my umbrella right now...me...only if you say please and lick my face....stuff like this....she then at one point said wow you are so confident...most guys get jealous easy when i do stuff like this and try to control me.....

She has a big hangup on power in relationships..and wants or at least acts like she wants to be the dominant one and at one point i was just having fun and showing her pictures of my favorite college football team's stadium and trying to get her to sing the fight song with me... and she said...i see what you are trying to...get me to follow you....guys always try to do that...i looked at her like she was crazy and told her to relax and have fun no one is trying to get anyone to follow just having fun...

But after a few more sex sessions her big bravado and act of attempting dominance was fading quickly and she was submitting to me with everything...and later we went to have dinner in an empty resturaunt..just the staff there and us and before hand she was always talking about how she had never had sex in a public place and wanted to try it but was always too scared...so her outfit and stalkings were turning me on and i had a bit of wine in me and wanted to get her to 100 percent submit to me without any questions...

she went into the bathroom and without her knowing at first i followed her about a minute later and opened the door and she was very surprised looking...there was a mirror in front of us...i first locked the door and then grabbed her kissing her and pulled up her skirt and she was saying no no we can't what are doing???? blah blah and i told her shut up and get on the floor so I can **** you......her eyes lit up with desire and i picked her up and laid her on the floor and banged her for a very short time....5-10 mins and she was talking about how excited she was....and when we got back to her place we went at it for hours...she later told me i gave her the most intense sex she has ever experienced....and she is even calling me baby now...lol

a side note....i really want a little parrot now...her parrot is freakin awesome and is very intelligent..i never knew they could be that smart...she can literally talk to him at times and he talks back or communicates back..not just purely mimicking...and he flies around and lands on her shoulder whenever she calls him and he is a very jealous little guy..i am definitely getting one of my own..
If you guys believe any of this? You are as crazy as Zinc is. I was shown something by another poster here in a PM that absolutely shows me he is a lying POS....about just about everything he writes it appears.

Busted.
 

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cordoncordon said:
If you guys believe any of this? You are as crazy as Zinc is. I was shown something by another poster here in a PM that absolutely shows me he is a lying POS....about just about everything he writes it appears.

Busted.

No one is lying except you about not being a white knight....was it your little butt-buddy Beginning DJ who showed you something...please show and tell....the only possible thing i can think of is my ex wife....

I first caught her in a major AFC way and married her up after she proposed to me because back then i had little experience with relationships in general compared to now and believed in the happy ever after marriage thing starting in your 20s....just how i was raised...and then a few years later i told her i wanted a divorce because she was batsh&t crazy and i had reason to believe she used me for a visa card...after a few weeks of this and me initiating a divorce she took up with another older and wealthy man and i was shocked because she had been so obsessed acting with me previously and you know the deal...acted MAJOR afc until finally going NC and sticking to it for good despite her numerous attempts to get back in contact with me....so yeah...i didn't just become this way without a few bumps in the road...a lot actually. That is really the only way to become really strong as a person, though, facing and beating challenges.

Also, since you are calling my sincerity out, i will state that i did visit a few prostitutes when i was younger...but i also was pulling ONS at night clubs on a somewhat regular basis although a lot of the girls were pretty bad..HB5-6s...i was just crazy about sex and pretty wild in general and my standards back then were very low for lays in general....I would do anything with almost anyone with a bit of alcohol in me.......but that was years ago and despite being embarrassing, i value those experiences and everything else that has helped paved me to become what i am today.

Either way, i have improved myself a lot with women and as a person in general.........and i can honestly say no woman has the ability to hold any power over me now because i have already faced and beaten my worse fears...not just with women and losing women i cared about, but in life in general. Long story.

And i don't know much about your past Cordon and what you have done but i do know that you currently have a major case of oneitis and you are a white knight.....if you can accept this fact and look it in the face then you too can get stronger and improve yourself. How would you react if your current girl who you "love" so much began cheating on you or ditched you? Could you take it like a man a go no-contact? I get the feeling your world would be cracked into little pieces...therefore you obviously have some growing to do and posting pic after pic of your girl to show others....that is just pathetic. I could see if it was only one time responding to people telling you to prove it.....but that is not the case.
 
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BeginningDJ said:
I guess we're butt-buddies for sniffing out the same bullsh!t?

Yes, there are many others here that don't believe you. It's cool, not worth lost sleep.

I can understand being a little doubtful of something you read on a forum, but to outright accuse someone with zero proof is juvenile at best.
 
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