Eye Contact

zekko · 01-29-2012, 12:28 AM

I was out and about doing my chores yesterday and I noticed something.

It appeared to me that the more attractive a woman was, the longer she would hold eye contact. In fact the two prettiest girls I saw held contact by far the longest. In fact, I looked away first lol.

This makes sense I suppose, as more attractive girls are more used to and comfortable with male attention. This goes along with the idea that attractive women tend to be more friendly when approached and more flirtateous in general. Because their interactions with men are mostly positive and validating for them.

I suppose my results could be somewhat skewed though, since the really unattractive girls I would barely glance at.

Eye contact is a funny thing. Some days I go out and no one will look at me. Then some days it seems like everybody looks at me. I don't know what the difference is.

scrouds · 01-29-2012, 08:21 PM

Watch their eyes next time and see where they go when they break off eye contact. Up is disinterest, dislike. sideways is not sure. Down is deference, either because they like you or they are just naturally shy.

HalfAddict · 01-29-2012, 09:16 PM

I have been having tons of fun holding eye contact with chicks.. I think it is hilarious.

zekko · 01-30-2012, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by HalfAddict

I have been having tons of fun holding eye contact with chicks.. I think it is hilarious.

Lol, I have to admit I sometimes like to mess with certain types of women like this, just to self amuse.

I've read things like "the alpha male makes eye contact with everyone he sees". I don't know if that's true or not, but I know a lot of guys have trouble making eye contact with women. But getting used to making eye contact is like one of the first steps in getting over social anxiety.

betheman · 01-30-2012, 08:17 AM

Eye contact is so very important in my experience.
if you can make eye contact, hold it, get a smile or a raised eyebrow, this gives you permission to pursue as it is a clear sign she is at least partialy attracted to you physically. its a 'come one then', if ever there was one!

if she look down or anywhere and then looks at you again, and holds it, again massive come on, if she breaks it off then looks at you as if your a murderer..take the hint!

Atom Smasher · 01-30-2012, 09:04 AM

I remember the days when I used to immediately look away from any woman who looked at me. Most of my life, actually. It took me a long time to realize this and a long time to fix it. I still catch myself doing it once in a while, but I'm a very private person and sometimes I just don't want to engage. I'm glad that through practice I now have a handle on it.

Hint: Wide-eyed eye contact is usually bad. Scary. Practice squinting a little (kind of a sleepy-eyed effect) with a slight corner-of-the-mouth smile. The smile should convey a half-effort (like, "I'm friendly but I'm evaluating you"). That's the formula that generate attraction for me. I tried the big, douchey smile thing for a while and that is definitely not cool, at least for me.

Why am I talking about smiling in an eye contact thread? Because we do not smile with our mouths. We smile with our eyes. Look around today and observe, and you'll see what I mean. A mouth smile without a congruent eye smile is instantly recognizable as fake.

speed dawg · 01-30-2012, 09:47 AM

Eye contact is synonymous with confidence.

Just make sure you don't overdo this, too much becomes synonymous with aggression.

Danger · 01-30-2012, 09:54 AM

My signature move during the first eye-contact has always been to suddenly give them a look like I don't trust them and that they are sketchy.

Basically I squint my eyes, put on a fake scowl and move my head about 10 degrees away from them while still keeping eye-contact. It usually generates a similar look from them and the game is on.

samspade · 01-30-2012, 09:54 AM

I ride the subway to work and it's a perfect laboratory for eye contact. Usually if a chick connects with my eyes, I stare her down and smile a little bit; usually she smiles back. A lot of people look away quickly because of NYC subway etiquette. (People also apologize for barely grazing your jacket, as if they've groped you or something. It's funny.)

A lot of cuter chicks look like they are avoiding eye contact altogether - they couple this with "bytch face," that surly look on their mugs like someone just farted or something. Whether this is a DHV attempt, or just shielding efforts by the more hit-on sex, or both, I'm not sure.

The other day, at the doctor's office, I was talking to a mom who had a 1.5 year old son running around. I talked to him a little bit too. I noticed that it would take him a long time to be stared down. Little kids don't seem to have the prompt in their brain that tells them too look away. So I wonder how much of eye contact is inherent and how much is based on social etiquette. Not to get too scientific on you or anything.

Die Hard · 01-30-2012, 10:35 AM

Brad Pitt teaches us how to do it. Fom 0:30 and onwards

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JlG7q-ld8M

Viagra4Soul · 01-30-2012, 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Die Hard

Brad Pitt teaches us how to do it. Fom 0:30 and onwards

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JlG7q-ld8M

Hilarious!

Is this film any good?

st_99 · 01-30-2012, 07:50 PM

i've done some eye contact experiments, i think at a minimum it takes your relationship with that person one notch above friendly, harmless, casual.. (my favorite is at the airport waiting for your flight to arrive, i had a girl about 6 rows ahead of me get up and
move within a few feet of me after the eye contact)

One good eye lock sets a different tone and ups the anxiety level up just a tad, which is good.

Of course this assumes she finds you somewhat attractive.

01-29-2012, 12:28 AM	#1
zekko Master Don Juan Join Date: Aug 2009 Age: 52 Posts: 4,886	Eye Contact I was out and about doing my chores yesterday and I noticed something. It appeared to me that the more attractive a woman was, the longer she would hold eye contact. In fact the two prettiest girls I saw held contact by far the longest. In fact, I looked away first lol. This makes sense I suppose, as more attractive girls are more used to and comfortable with male attention. This goes along with the idea that attractive women tend to be more friendly when approached and more flirtateous in general. Because their interactions with men are mostly positive and validating for them. I suppose my results could be somewhat skewed though, since the really unattractive girls I would barely glance at. Eye contact is a funny thing. Some days I go out and no one will look at me. Then some days it seems like everybody looks at me. I don't know what the difference is.

01-29-2012, 09:16 PM	#3
HalfAddict Master Don Juan Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Parts Unknown Age: 29 Posts: 749	I have been having tons of fun holding eye contact with chicks.. I think it is hilarious. __________________ "Women have to deal with periods and pregnancy, men have to deal with women. It's all about balance."

01-30-2012, 09:04 AM	#6
Atom Smasher Moderator Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The 7th Dimension Age: 56 Posts: 2,892	I remember the days when I used to immediately look away from any woman who looked at me. Most of my life, actually. It took me a long time to realize this and a long time to fix it. I still catch myself doing it once in a while, but I'm a very private person and sometimes I just don't want to engage. I'm glad that through practice I now have a handle on it. Hint: Wide-eyed eye contact is usually bad. Scary. Practice squinting a little (kind of a sleepy-eyed effect) with a slight corner-of-the-mouth smile. The smile should convey a half-effort (like, "I'm friendly but I'm evaluating you"). That's the formula that generate attraction for me. I tried the big, douchey smile thing for a while and that is definitely not cool, at least for me. Why am I talking about smiling in an eye contact thread? Because we do not smile with our mouths. We smile with our eyes. Look around today and observe, and you'll see what I mean. A mouth smile without a congruent eye smile is instantly recognizable as fake. __________________ "I am always doing that which I cannot do, in order that I may learn how to do it." Picasso

01-30-2012, 09:47 AM	#7
speed dawg Master Don Juan Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: The Dirty South Age: 32 Posts: 1,626	Eye contact is synonymous with confidence. Just make sure you don't overdo this, too much becomes synonymous with aggression. __________________ "ANYTHING that you can't say NO to, is your MASTER. And YOU are it's SLAVE." - Victory Unlimited "Find a way. Rack your brains and find a way." - Vypros

01-30-2012, 09:54 AM	#9
samspade Master Don Juan Join Date: Jan 2008 Age: 37 Posts: 2,303	I ride the subway to work and it's a perfect laboratory for eye contact. Usually if a chick connects with my eyes, I stare her down and smile a little bit; usually she smiles back. A lot of people look away quickly because of NYC subway etiquette. (People also apologize for barely grazing your jacket, as if they've groped you or something. It's funny.) A lot of cuter chicks look like they are avoiding eye contact altogether - they couple this with "bytch face," that surly look on their mugs like someone just farted or something. Whether this is a DHV attempt, or just shielding efforts by the more hit-on sex, or both, I'm not sure. The other day, at the doctor's office, I was talking to a mom who had a 1.5 year old son running around. I talked to him a little bit too. I noticed that it would take him a long time to be stared down. Little kids don't seem to have the prompt in their brain that tells them too look away. So I wonder how much of eye contact is inherent and how much is based on social etiquette. Not to get too scientific on you or anything. __________________ http://theuniversalmale.wordpress.com/

01-29-2012, 08:21 PM	#2
scrouds Master Don Juan Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Orlando, fl Age: 30 Posts: 1,165	Watch their eyes next time and see where they go when they break off eye contact. Up is disinterest, dislike. sideways is not sure. Down is deference, either because they like you or they are just naturally shy.

01-30-2012, 08:17 AM	#5
betheman Master Don Juan Join Date: Nov 2010 Age: 48 Posts: 1,688	Eye contact is so very important in my experience. if you can make eye contact, hold it, get a smile or a raised eyebrow, this gives you permission to pursue as it is a clear sign she is at least partialy attracted to you physically. its a 'come one then', if ever there was one! if she look down or anywhere and then looks at you again, and holds it, again massive come on, if she breaks it off then looks at you as if your a murderer..take the hint!

01-30-2012, 10:35 AM	#10
Die Hard Master Don Juan Join Date: Nov 2009 Age: 32 Posts: 1,099	Brad Pitt teaches us how to do it. Fom 0:30 and onwards http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JlG7q-ld8M __________________ ~It's not where you came from... It's where you're heading for! ~Ain't a hard time been invented that I cannot handle... "Fvck comfort zones, that's for pussies" - ( . )( . )

01-30-2012, 07:50 PM	#12
st_99 Master Don Juan Join Date: Apr 2006 Age: 32 Posts: 1,810	i've done some eye contact experiments, i think at a minimum it takes your relationship with that person one notch above friendly, harmless, casual.. (my favorite is at the airport waiting for your flight to arrive, i had a girl about 6 rows ahead of me get up and move within a few feet of me after the eye contact) One good eye lock sets a different tone and ups the anxiety level up just a tad, which is good. Of course this assumes she finds you somewhat attractive.