The Loveshack/SoSuave Discussion [Merged Threads]

[MikeYikes122]

Originally Posted by ketostix

And I'll never have sympathy for any adult female. They always have a choice between a non-sexual, sensitive, caring "AFC", and the guy who will "use" them for just sex. Women make their choice. Sometimes, pretty much all the time, women have the "AFC" or two or three on the side, and their "lover" guys too. This is basic stuff that any guy knows. No sympathy for them from me, as they have no sympathy for men's feelings either.

This is the kind of stuff that makes the Mature Man forum tough to read sometimes.

It's not nearly as clear cut as you've tried to say. There are plenty of guys out there who put on an act and lie (or at least mislead) to use women for a$$. I know because I used to do it all the time.

And I also don't agree with your statement that all women have three or four guys on the side at all times. It is true that women are naturally better at plate spinning, but it isn't true that all women are juggling three or four dudes at the same time. On that, we're just going to have to agree to disagree because there isn't really a way to discuss.

Besides, I wasn't asking you or anyone else to feel sympathy. I was just trying to provide some perspective in pointing out that both sides have it badly. No gender is getting the shaft.

I feel bad for every guy who is having a tough time with women because I have been there before. But I don't feel bad to the point that I think that all guys have it worse than women.

[iqqi]

Originally Posted by MikeYikes122

I realize I'm a little late on this thread, but you've made a point that I've been trying to make for months. Women have it just as bad when it comes to dating and courting the opposite sex. However, it's not that women are faced with the dilemma of "be a b!tch or be used" as you suggest, it's that women face a dynamic where if they give up sex too quickly, they face the consequence of the guy losing interest or being labeled as a slut. And conversely, if a girl never allows a man to get in her pants, the guy is going to lose interest and move on to the next piece of tale, that is if he is a self-respecting male who is desirable to women. I know because I have both used and abused both types of females plenty of times in my life.

The dynamic is the exact same for men. Only for them, it's be too nice of a guy and get walked on like a New York side walk. Or, be an a$$hole and attract no quality females, only random a$$ and women with borderline personality disorders.

And this is why I get so sick of guys coming on here and complaining about women having the advantage in the dating game, because they don't. Both sides have crap they have to deal with, and it sucks just about as badly for everyone who is involved. Both women and men have to find their own unique balance.

My cousin was raped when she was 14, and I can't even begin to tell you how screwed up in the head she is when it comes to her dealings with the opposite sex. Not to mention, the serious daddy issues she has from her father (my uncle) not being around.

That kind of an experience is awing in comparison to what any AFC on this Web site has ever dealt with. Guys never face anything like that at the age of 14. Most dudes who have it bad are ridiculed by women and left without a date for winter formal. At worst, they are socially ostracized and don't have any friends.

No matter how you slice it, the pissing and moaning about males having an inherent disadvantage needs to stop. I'm not going to call what goes on here on these boards misogyny, but I will say there is an excessive amount of unfair complaining about lack of quality females and women having the upper hand.

Hallelujah holla back!!!

Lol. Rep points.

[Señor Fingers]

Originally Posted by ketostix

And I'll never have sympathy for any adult female. They always have a choice between a non-sexual, sensitive, caring "AFC", and the guy who will "use" them for just sex.

So, women can only choose between a spineless chump or someone who wants to get in their pants? Hmm, that idea sounds familiar to me.

I guess they really don't always have all the advantages, huh?

Here is a novel idea for you:

Not all guys fit into the comfortable categories of suckers or players. We tend to fall in the broad spectrum somewhere between the two extremes. There are plenty of good guys out there who do well with women, in fact every time I pass a mirror I see one.

[ketostix]

Originally Posted by MikeYikes122

It's not nearly as clear cut as you've tried to say. There are plenty of guys out there who put on an act and lie (or at least mislead) to use women for a$$. I know because I used to do it all the time.

OK but why do you assume that the woman didn't just want sex too? You put on an act, but it's likely she knew 5 mins. in that she wanted to have sex and would be OK with the outcome. I don't how having to be the one putting on an act and jumping through hoops puts a man at an advantage? Women have options and they don't go for a guy just because they know he's genuinely interested in them and wants a relationship. To think otherwise is to buy into female contrivances, to borrow from Rollo, that woman only have sex with a guy because they want a relationship. We are both generalizing here, but I believe my generalization is true. That's all I'm saying.

[ketostix]

Originally Posted by Señor Fingers

So, women can only choose between a spineless chump or someone who wants to get in their pants? Hmm, that idea sounds familiar to me.

I guess they really don't always have all the advantages, huh?

Here is a novel idea for you:

Not all guys fit into the comfortable categories of suckers or players. We tend to fall in the broad spectrum somewhere between the two extremes. There are plenty of good guys out there who do well with women, in fact every time I pass a mirror I see one.

No, no, no. It's the "other" side that sees men as being either after a relationship or JUST sex. I'm saying women freely choose all points and types of guys in between.

[KarmaSutra]

I've recieved quite a few PM's from "men" trying to come over here from LS who refuse to post for fear of retribution and ridicule from those totalitarianist cvnts.

This is the boy mentality we're dealing with. If they're shatting themselves over a decision to post questions on a MEN's forum rather than one controlled by people who squat to piss, How hard do you think they have it in the real world?

[Purple-Haze]

Originally Posted by Nighthawk

Bit of a coincidence though wasn't it? Just when we've judged one pic, all the other girls put theirs up too. And talked about the SS responses they got to them. As my little cousin used to say 'you think what you think and I'll think what I think.'

If you think some people put up their pics on LS to capture the interest of SS men, you are wrong.

Believe it or not, when the pictures were posted a few days ago, some posters weren't really aware of the SS invasion. And as slowgold mentioned, posting your pic up is something that happens once in a while @ LS. When I posted my pic, I didn't do it for anyone but some of the members on LS. It's frivilous fun... There are some very beautiful women that post on LS. It's nice to get a little compliment from someone you respect, ya know?

I can't speak for everyone, but some of the women who have posted their pics could care less what those on SS think about their pics. It was posted for sharing with other members, simple as that.

Remember also that it's easy to become so insulated that you forget that this is the www. I forget sometimes that everything I post is available to anyone on the net.

[Purple-Haze]

Originally Posted by Total Control

name me 2 men who joined from Loveshack?

Burrito is a woman
Lishy is a woman
Kamille is a woman
Hombre was a woman (was cuz that **** was banned)
slowgold is a woman

where are the men?

and what are these women here for??? WHAT ARE THEY FVCKING HERE FOR??

PenKitten is very smart and sees thru the bullshyt, good for her

Penkitten is legit because shes actually married to someone from this site, i understand why she posts here despite being a woman

I can confirm that Burrito is a man.

[ketostix]

Originally Posted by KarmaSutra

I've recieved quite a few PM's from "men" trying to come over here from LS who refuse to post for fear of retribution and ridicule from those totalitarianist cvnts.

This is the boy mentality we're dealing with. If they're shatting themselves over a decision to post questions on a MEN's forum rather than one controlled by people who squat to piss, How hard do you think they have it in the real world?

That kind of takes the term "pvssy controlled" to a whole new level doesn't it lol?

[Purple-Haze]

Originally Posted by EricInTheHouse

Well if you need a woman's point of view, then ask in LS, lol... I liked it there, just lost my temper toward the moderation team.. I was banned forever. Are you saying the guys there are somewhat gay?.. for hangin in a female forum?.. I was never gay...

This doesn't seem like a bad place though.. I may stick around for a bit..

Eric...hey you!!!

[Purple-Haze]

Originally Posted by KarmaSutra

I've recieved quite a few PM's from "men" trying to come over here from LS who refuse to post for fear of retribution and ridicule from those totalitarianist cvnts.

This is the boy mentality we're dealing with. If they're shatting themselves over a decision to post questions on a MEN's forum rather than one controlled by people who squat to piss, How hard do you think they have it in the real world?

This is sad. It is not indicative of the quality of LS female posters but the spinelessness of these particular men.

Nobody cares if these guys post here. I certainly don't. Why can't one be a member of both forums?

They really do need to grow a pair. That kind of victim mentality irks me some. If they PM you and tell you that they are afraid of "retribution", they are not real men. They are likely the type of men that allow women (and other men) to walk all over them on a daily basis.

Freakin' silly BS.

[KarmaSutra]

Originally Posted by EricInTheHouse

Well if you need a woman's point of view, then ask in LS, lol... I liked it there, just lost my temper toward the moderation team.. I was banned forever. Are you saying the guys there are somewhat gay?.. for hangin in a female forum?.. I was never gay...

This doesn't seem like a bad place though.. I may stick around for a bit..

No. The guys over there are single minded is all. We're all about broadening that perspective in every facet of thier lives, not just women. Women are such a minute and miniscule part of a man's whole that he tends to lose focus on what makes him honorable in the first place.

Welcome to the Brotherhood brother Eric.

[sosilky]

how did this whole loveshack sosuave merger happen?

[Purple-Haze]

This is in response to Quicksilver's post.

What about this website(the wealth of information, not just threads) do you think you could benefit from? Give us some details about what you find fascinating about SS, some detail about what you find repulsive about SS, and how you intend to use what you learn here to better yourself.


What piqued my interest is the take SS has on male sexuality. Now I am a feminist (in that I believe in equality between the sexes). However, I do not think that equality means sameness. I understand men and women have different roles and characteristics that make one feminine and the other masculine. I have no problem with this.

I've always been drawn to the masculine. I am interested to explore why men behave the way they do and what they consider to be masculine. So when I read about Karma's take on masculine sexuality (and the posts of a few others), I knew I had to check this place out (initially, it was out of boredom that I made an account after being PMed about it by a LS member). After Karma began a discussion on a particular thread, I began to develop a more sincere interest.

How do I hope to benefit from it?

Well I think I may be involved with an alpha. I'm trying to figure him out...and to no avail. He remains a bit of a mystery to me. I'm trying to understand what drives him and how I can be better equipped to deal with issues that crop up in our R. Mind you, I do not think SS will magically solve our problems, nor do I think that the thoughts/feelings/ideas expressed here even apply to him... But from what I've seen, there are some parallels b/w his behaviour/personality and what I've read here. My hope is to read and absorb...to try to rethink some things. Also, eventually, I'd like to ask you guys some questions and get your take on things.

Nothing really repulses me about SS (although some threads/posts remind me of a daycare centre for little boys - however I realize that these threads/posters are not necessarily representative of the SS objective). It seems like a pretty decent place. I find there is a great deal of filler here (but then that's the case with LS too...and I've contributed to that myself). I've come across some real gems though (Sir Lancelot's thread on sexual techniques, for example).

I'm interested in learning about the mind of the mature man. I don't much care for the PUA stuff that is floating around or the gaming of women. I'm looking to learn more about alpha masculinity, how the alpha functions in an LTR, what drives him and what he is likely to respond to.

Also, I am interested in why I am attracted to a certain type of man. Some of the stuff on here makes me go, "ohhh yeah! I do find that attractive." For the longest time, I questioned why I find some things attrative and dismiss other things. Things are starting to make a little more sense to me... I understand the motives behind my attraction to certain types/personalities. Again, this is only a part of my education. I think being self-aware if very important.

I'm glad I discovered the site. Like LS, I'm sure this will contribute to my knowledge of the male-female dynamic. I'm sure some myths will be dispelled, certain ideas will be reinforced and new ones will take form... I welcome all of it.

[KarmaSutra]

Originally Posted by Purple-Haze

This is in response to Quicksilver's post.

What about this website(the wealth of information, not just threads) do you think you could benefit from? Give us some details about what you find fascinating about SS, some detail about what you find repulsive about SS, and how you intend to use what you learn here to better yourself.


What piqued my interest is the take SS has on male sexuality. Now I am a feminist (in that I believe in equality between the sexes). However, I do not think that equality means sameness. I understand men and women have different roles and characteristics that make one feminine and the other masculine. I have no problem with this.

I've always been drawn to the masculine. I am interested to explore why men behave the way they do and what they consider to be masculine. So when I read about Karma's take on masculine sexuality (and the posts of a few others), I knew I had to check this place out (initially, it was out of boredom that I made an account after being PMed about it by a LS member). After Karma began a discussion on a particular thread, I began to develop a more sincere interest.

How do I hope to benefit from it?

Well I think I may be involved with an alpha. I'm trying to figure him out...and to no avail. He remains a bit of a mystery to me. I'm trying to understand what drives him and how I can be better equipped to deal with issues that crop up in our R. Mind you, I do not think SS will magically solve our problems, nor do I think that the thoughts/feelings/ideas expressed here even apply to him... But from what I've seen, there are some parallels b/w his behaviour/personality and what I've read here. My hope is to read and absorb...to try to rethink some things. Also, eventually, I'd like to ask you guys some questions and get your take on things.

Nothing really repulses me about SS (although some threads/posts remind me of a daycare centre for little boys - however I realize that these threads/posters are not necessarily representative of the SS objective). It seems like a pretty decent place. I find there is a great deal of filler here (but then that's the case with LS too...and I've contributed to that myself). I've come across some real gems though (Sir Lancelot's thread on sexual techniques, for example).

I'm interested in learning about the mind of the mature man. I don't much care for the PUA stuff that is floating around or the gaming of women. I'm looking to learn more about alpha masculinity, how the alpha functions in an LTR, what drives him and what he is likely to respond to.

Also, I am interested in why I am attracted to a certain type of man. Some of the stuff on here makes me go, "ohhh yeah! I do find that attractive." For the longest time, I questioned why I find some things attrative and dismiss other things. Things are starting to make a little more sense to me... I understand the motives behind my attraction to certain types/personalities. Again, this is only a part of my education. I think being self-aware if very important.

I'm glad I discovered the site. Like LS, I'm sure this will contribute to my knowledge of the male-female dynamic. I'm sure some myths will be dispelled, certain ideas will be reinforced and new ones will take form... I welcome all of it.

Just as in everything else, one needs to know the question thoroughly before one can search for a complete answer. SoSuave isn't perfect. Nowhere near it. I hold it in high regard because I know how it has affected and promulgated change within me. I did the work though. I found, through many hours of meditation and deep searching, recollection and balling my eyes out, what was wrong with me and then I made a conscious decision to rid negativity, accept blame for my actions and become accountable for my decisions.

Now I'm who I want to be but nowhere near complete.

I probably will never post at LS again but I lurke and read some good insight from the feminine mystique and then use that knowledge in raising my daughter and in what motivates Mrs. K.

For that I'm thankful for both forums.

[ThunderMaverick]

Hey uh..


Purple..

..got a link to the topic with those pics?

[Purple-Haze]

Originally Posted by ThunderMaverick

Hey uh..


Purple..

..got a link to the topic with those pics?

Wouldn't you like to know.

They were posted a few days ago...they are most likely down now (I know mine is).

[Desdinova]

I think this thread has run its course.

Time to move on people.