What is the Matrix?

[wayword]

Originally Posted by Francisco d'Anconia

1. Feminism is a women's movement. Why men choose to have it effect them is beyond me.

You often don't have a choice.

Associate Judge Kenneth Govendo, in an order on December 24, denied the motion of respondent Barrie Keith Reyes Maratita to set aside the divorce decree which states that he is the natural father of the minor child and that he is responsible for paying child support.

Maratita argued that because he is not the biological father of the girl, he should not be obligated by law to support the child.

Govendo in denying Maratita’s motion, said although the court sympathizes with him, it cannot grant his motion for two reasons: First under commonwealth law, the respondent is prohibited from declaring the nonexistence of the father and child relationship; and second, such finding is not in the best interest of the child as the respondent and the child appear to have a healthy and loving relationship.

This ruling is typical in post-feminist USA:

Wife cheats on hubby and births bastard love child.
Hubby must still legally cuckold child, even though it's not his!
Sooo...not only is this woman not punished for fvcking around on her hubby, but to add insult to injury, he must also legally PAY to raise the product of such cheating now!!!

While I agree that feminism is part of a larger plan to create the NW0, it doesn't mean that it can simply be ignored on its own either. Sticking your head in the sand won't make it go away. In fact, that only allows it to keep getting worse unchecked. Men must mobilize like women did and assert our fair rights. And thumping your chest about how "I am above feminism, so don't need to fight it," only enables it to keep worsening...

Because while we're sitting around disorganized, millions of feminists are working around the clock to recruit more followers and pass more legislation to screw us over with. And they have NO RESISTANCE. There is no huge organization for the protection of men's rights. Because many men actually feel like they are admitting personal weakness if they even admit that feminism has afffected them any. Or that it's shirking personal responsibility. But, denying the macro problem is actually denying your shared responsibility to help fight it. Ideally, we should all be pitching in a little to fight feminism on the macro level (just like many women do to support feminism).

Honestly, I look around now and see very few men in healthy relationships with functional women. Instead, most are supplicating over damaged goods on drugs/meds, overweight, with STDs or some other dude's kids. Or nice, but unattractive, women. In fact, if men were in power in healthy relationships today, the whole PU Game would never have started to begin with and we wouldn't be talking here now. That alone is a symbol of how far down we've fallen - and largely due to 2nd-wave feminism. We are all here today because we were unhappy with our dealings with women.
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Meanwhile, even the unhealthiest, most obese, psycho, serial-divorcee woman in this culture can keep marrying decent man after decent man. It never ceases to amaze me to see even the lowest HB with major problems STILL never has trouble getting a man!

For example, this lady, Vicki Borken, was suffering from extreme lymphedema - causing her leg to swell up like the elephant man. Well, this woman is older, impoverished, a single mother, heavily-disfigured from her condition...and yet STILL, has had a kind, supportive boyfriend of several years!!!

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Originally Posted by wayword

You often don't have a choice.This ruling is typical in post-feminist USA:

Wife cheats on hubby and births bastard love child.
Hubby must still legally cuckold child, even though it's not his!
WTF - not only is this woman not punished for fvcking around on her hubby, but to add insult to injury, he must also legally PAY to raise the product of such cheating now!!!.

All may be true but the underlying factor is that the man chose not only to have a relationship with this particular woman, but to also bare children. She didn't do it alone. Besides, why wasn't something written into a prenuptial for protection of such things?

[wayword]

Originally Posted by Francisco d'Anconia

All may be true but the underlying factor is that the man chose not only to have a relationship with this particular woman, but to also bare children. She didn't do it alone. Besides, why wasn't something written into a prenuptial for protection of such things?

True, but when nearly the entire dating pool is like this, many men end up finally settling for the best they can get - which often is pretty crappy. I mean, if men really held to their standards, most would remain bachelors for life here.

Also, it can be difficult to insist on a prenuptial - and many aren't legally honored, anyways.

Point is, it DOES take concerted effort to make changes on a macro level - which WILL then affect everyone on a micro, individual level as well. That's exactly how women became so powerful today - through decades of hard-nosed grinding. And how we also became so weak. From complete denial of and derilection of duty to ourselves collectively. Not only did we not fight unfair feminism, but we actually supported it at every turn! And now we are truly paying the price!!!

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Originally Posted by wayword

True, but when nearly the entire dating pool is like this, many men end up finally settling for the best they can get - which often is pretty crappy. I mean, if men really held to their standards, most would remain bachelors for life here.

This is true too but look at the alternative. Would guys agree to the relationship if they were told straight away that in order for a woman to legally commit to him he would need to agree to support any offspring born or obtained legally by the woman during the agreement until the child's 18th birthday in addition to supporting the lifestyle of the woman which is created by the union until the agreement is nullified and is activated by another man in a similar agreement? That's the legalities of marriage and you are saying that guys would settle for this in order not to become a bachelor? Isn't that scary?

Originally Posted by wayword

Point is, it DOES take concerted effort to make changes on a macro level - which WILL then affect everyone on a micro, individual level as well. That's exactly how women became so powerful today - through decades of hard-nosed grinding. And how we also became so weak. From complete denial of and derilection of duty to ourselves collectively. Not only did we not fight unfair feminism, but we actually supported it at every turn! And now we are truly paying the price!!!

That's the problem with change. In order to enact or create a new system like Feminism, all it takes is for a greater mass to agree to change their premise all at once. To undo this change will not happen nearly as easily because an even greater mass would need to agree to change all at once, it'll never happen and waiting for everyone to "unplug" all at once will take an eternity, more people benefiting in some manner or another by just playing along.

The system won't be dismantled until individuals unplug on their own to weaken the support of that system. But as long as guy are willing to support it by not sticking to their standards and their own self interest, complaining about the system is just a waste of time.

[Last Man Standing]

Originally Posted by Señor Fingers

I mentioned all of this in my post. Your problem is that you are stuck on level 1, my friend. You think Feminism is the core of our problems and it is not! The next level up are the real masters of the world who want us weak and crippled so we just continue to fork out dollars and never question or fight back.

None of these groups can claim power over you once you accept your destiny and take responsibility for your life. It's one thing to raise awareness of a threat, and its another to constantly throw your hands in the air and make a big scene...that sh!t just increases the hype around them and makes their presence stronger.

I never said we should be ignorant of all this. But those of you who talk about this sh!t day and night are just giving it more airplay and power over your lives..

No, talking about the truth exposes the lie, and it is because men left feminism unchecked for forty years is the exact reason why we have the relationship/family problems we have today!!! Your strategy of focusing on your "self" is the most destructive thing that you can do to yourself and to those in society - are you to be concerned with your grooming etiquette when the Titantic is sinking??!!! No man is an island - we are in the same boat - division and focus on the self is what THEY want!! If we stay silent then how in the world could a lie ever be exposed so that it doesn't harm others?? If there is virus (a lie) then we need an anti-virus (the truth) to combat it and destroy it, lest we all become destroyed by it!!

This "Darwinian", "Napoleon Hill" focus on the self is exactly what those in power of The Matrix want you to focus on - they publish and distribute these books and control our education!! Your isolationist advice here is helping their agenda -by not revealing the organized forces behind this agenda . Feminism is only a piece of the total pie but it is an important part since it is designed to break up the family and bring moral decay to a nation --- and you know what? It has succeeded!!

I'm doing the exact opposite of what you claim I'm saying! Voicing attention on them is exactly what needs to be done - because a lie and a liar can never win against the truth!!! My focus is on the truth and not feminism - I never talked to anyone about feminism in my life, except on this forum - since it is the men here who are taking the brunt of this agenda due to their embracing this artificially created monster I call the "hor"- she is no longer complementary to a man's innate nature!! She should be shunned!!

You obviously have not read my previous posts - I've been exposing The Matrix lie at all levels - economic, political, religious, social - but those discussions are limited on this forum. There is only one level in this game - the truth! And you are right, I am on level one!

Henry Makow is a truth-bearer! Only the paranoid delusional don't see truth for what it is - they are blinded and deluded by their own falsehoods!!

If you want to get out of The Matrix listen to Alex Jones radio at infowars.com!! http://infowars.com

DJ Wayword is spot on!

Why is this in the tips section?

[Obsidian]

It's in the tips section because certain people like to boost their egos by condemning their DJ brethren for being too "misogynistic" or "negative."

In reality, my "negativity" toward women has actually helped me take women off their pedastals and filter out the lower-quality ones, but don't bother telling iqqi or Mr. Fingers that.

Btw, here is a good essay about the Matrix.

[HeartbreakKid]

You know Ive read a lot of things, and i know some disagree about the feminist thing, and have there own views. Generally you hit the nail on the head thou. I feel to many people are looking for other excuses as to why they aren't were they want to be in life. Its so easy to say this is the reason, and that is, rather than to just face your biggest adversary in your life, YOU. I do believe that feminist groups, and TV in general has somewhat changed our perception. But i more so feel that the BIG problem here is that people are afraid of change, and for a minute ever thinking the problem could be them, so they point the finger else were.

He's not trying to say feminism isn't a problem here but more a small piece of a thousand piece jig saw. But if you master yourself and conquer the inner demons and challenges, then id think naturally you'd be More prone to not fall victim to what the feminist world pushes us guys to be. And if your right with yourself then i don't think you would end up taking the blue pill(feminism) anyway. Also if you believe making people overly optimistic is a bad thing. Would u rather have us down and out all the time and not believing we could make things better? Thats not the problem with us. The problem is when we have that overwhelming confidence is losing it, once something bad happens. When we should learn that there are many things that can get us down, but we as individuals cannot allow ourselves to stay down.

I think this post is very inspiring and i would recommend to anyone who not only is trying to get better with the women, but just to live a better life in general. This is a real self confidence builder. I praise you for this post man. I just wish i would have been on to how the world really works when it comes to ladies, and in general alot sooner. I just now in '07 have had my Epiphany, and i know I'm just barely scratching the surface.



HeartbreakKid
"You Miss 100% of the shots you do not take"

[HeartbreakKid]

-Thunder Maverick

I do agree with if you had no knowledge of this feminism or "matrix" it would be quite easy to be swallowed whole by. And some of us are being to arrogant to realize that some or should i say most men out there still believe that feminism is the way to be, without ever really realizing what there doing is "wrong". But i still got Fingz back on that the main key to achieving anything in life, and that includes ladies, is you. It all starts with you, and ends with you, self mastery is always first and foremost. Self mastery breeds confidence, and confidence breeds success. I do agree with you thou on if you didn't know then you still might be in the "matrix" and not even know it. Good post.

HeartbreakKid
"You Miss 100% of the Shots you do not Take"

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Originally Posted by Obsidian

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In reality, my "negativity" toward women has actually helped me take women off their pedastals and filter out the lower-quality ones, but don't bother telling iqqi or Mr. Fingers that...

How do you keep the negativity from impacting how you interact with quality women?

[Obsidian]

I treat everyone with respect and tend to be friendly toward everyone. Unless a girl gives off a slvtty or b1tchy vibe, I assume she is at least moderately high-quality...until she proves otherwise. Before long, most girls disqualify themselves with bad behavior. As for the ones that don't, I value them particularly highly because they are such a welcome relief from the crowd. Nonetheless, I am generally mature enough not to go AFC on a valuable girl simply because she is non-horish. She still is not worthy of supplication -- because she is a woman, and she is inferior in most respects.

Because I recognize the limitations of women, I almost never bother talking to them about serious issues -- unless I just feel like ranting without expecting any intelligent response. I never count on a woman to lead interactions or to progress relationships in a particularly rational manner. I don't expect her to take initiative. I expect a woman to gossip and obsess over trivial occurrances. I anticipate that most women will try to manipulate me, and that they will respect me less the more they are successful at it. Perhaps most importantly, I understand that a promiscuous OR a non-submissive woman has already defied her natural state, and that she would never make a good long-term companion. Eventually, I will gravitate toward the girls who best demonstrate this latter feminine characteristic (purity/submissiveness) while least manifesting the feminine vices. Ultimately, having some standards other than beauty allows me to destroy a woman's pedastal and qualify HER rather than qualifying myself. Every time a woman disrespects me, I remember the 50+% divorce rate and the fact that even prenups cannot fully preserve a man from the horrors of the matriarchy.

I'm not claiming to be a master yet. If I had a quality girl then I probably wouldn't be killing as much of my time on this forum. But I've run through more girls after learning to view them accurately than I did before I understood the natural order of things. Btw, I can think of someone else who was once accused of being negative...

Originally Posted by Devlar

Yes AD i do belive your ideals are that of a very bitter person, yes you may have success but mark my words that your success will never be infinate like that of some who care to perfect a relationship, on the sheer basis of how you approch the matter

Originally Posted by Anti-Dump

I am not BITTER at all! That's really FUNNY to say that. If I am not being HURT by women THAT MAKES ME HAPPIER THAN ANYONE IN THE FORUM!!!! I am a happy guy BECAUSE I don't get jerked around like you!
He,he,he,he,he,he,he!!!!!!!!!!

Only guys like you get bitter.
He,he,he,he,he,he,he,he!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Señor Fingers]

@ wayword's suggestion for MLO

Interesting response to the problem. What would we call ourselves though... Meninists? Masculists?

@ LMS

I was hooked on Alex Jones stuff for years. That dude has balls of steel! For a while I was addicted to a lot of this stuff you guys are advocating.. 911 scandals, Feminist propaganda, world bank conspiracies, etc, etc. But I found that spending too much time in this world was no good for my state of mind. The quality of my thinking began to degrade, and the rest of my life started following suit.

You do raise a good point about people focusing too much on themselves though. I don't want you guys to think I am only advocating self improvement without awareness. Overall consciousness tempered by empowering personal initiative is the balance I'm really trying to strike here, cause neither extreme is healthy!

@ Obsidian

Looking at your last post, I see you got your head together and we agree on more than you think. Only a fool plays the game without knowing his adversaries and it's important to know what we are up against.

I never said we should be ignorant folks

I'm actually glad you guys are coming out of the woodwork and challenging this post..it helps me re-iterate that awareness of the problem is important, it's the obsession that's no good for ya.

PS - This is in the Tips Section as a reminder to folks as to who bears the real responsibility for what we do with our lives... I think we've already established that I really don't care what you guys think of me

[Last Man Standing]

Originally Posted by Obsidian

I treat everyone with respect and tend to be friendly toward everyone. Unless a girl gives off a slvtty or b1tchy vibe, I assume she is at least moderately high-quality...until she proves otherwise. Before long, most girls disqualify themselves with bad behavior. As for the ones that don't, I value them particularly highly because they are such a welcome relief from the crowd. Nonetheless, I am generally mature enough not to go AFC on a valuable girl simply because she is non-horish. She still is not worthy of supplication -- because she is a woman, and she is inferior in most respects.

Because I recognize the limitations of women, I almost never bother talking to them about serious issues -- unless I just feel like ranting without expecting any intelligent response. I never count on a woman to lead interactions or to progress relationships in a particularly rational manner. I don't expect her to take initiative. I expect a woman to gossip and obsess over trivial occurrances. I anticipate that most women will try to manipulate me, and that they will respect me less the more they are successful at it. Perhaps most importantly, I understand that a promiscuous OR a non-submissive woman has already defied her natural state, and that she would never make a good long-term companion. Eventually, I will gravitate toward the girls who best demonstrate this latter feminine characteristic (purity/submissiveness) while least manifesting the feminine vices. Ultimately, having some standards other than beauty allows me to destroy a woman's pedastal and qualify HER rather than qualifying myself. Every time a woman disrespects me, I remember the 50+% divorce rate and the fact that even prenups cannot fully preserve a man from the horrors of the matriarchy.

I'm not claiming to be a master yet. If I had a quality girl then I probably wouldn't be killing as much of my time on this forum. But I've run through more girls after learning to view them accurately than I did before I understood the natural order of things. Btw, I can think of someone else who was once accused of being negative...

Kudos, You are in sync with the rhythm of truth - the highest form!!!!

[HeartbreakKid]

Originally Posted by Señor Fingers

You do raise a good point about people focusing too much on themselves though. I don't want you guys to think I am only advocating self improvement without awareness. Overall consciousness tempered by empowering personal initiative is the balance I'm really trying to strike here, cause neither extreme is healthy!

Like that point here, i don't think I'm implied it, but yea you don't want to act just on impulses alone, you have a brain use it...take chances, and push yourself, and if you fail thats not the worst thing. The worst thing is not trying. Basically like he said have that empowering initiative to change things but be aware of what your doing. Sometimes not thinking and just doing is the best method, but for the most part just don't do things to do them, have a purpose & meaning when you do them...sound about right?

Originally Posted by Señor Fingers

Looking at your last post, I see you got your head together and we agree on more than you think. Only a fool plays the game without knowing his adversaries and it's important to know what we are up against.

Agree again, we could go into all the different angles on who the adversaries is but i do believe like Fing said early and like i believe none of these so called "adversaries" are realavent if you first cant overcome yourself.

Originally Posted by Señor Fingers

I'm actually glad you guys are coming out of the woodwork and challenging this post..it helps me re-iterate that awareness of the problem is important, it's the obsession that's no good for ya.

I know it sounds like I'm ass kissing but i just really feel this stuff at a deep level. People all the info in the world even if its the best wont do if you don't get out and apply it. Like the saying goes action speaks louder than words.

Originally Posted by Señor Fingers

This is in the Tips Section as a reminder to folks as to who bears the real responsibility for what we do with our lives... I think we've already established that I really don't care what you guys think of me

OK this is my last quote thing i swear fellas!! But he couldn't of said it better. At the end of the day your the one that has to live with the decisions that you made, and the only person thats going to change things in your life its you. If you wait along hoping for change and someone to do it for you, your gonna watch your life pass you by. As long as were still breathing its never over. I think alot of us have forgotten that.

[Last Man Standing]

Originally Posted by Señor Fingers

@ wayword's suggestion for MLO

Interesting response to the problem. What would we call ourselves though... Meninists? Masculists?

@ LMS

I was hooked on Alex Jones stuff for years. That dude has balls of steel! For a while I was addicted to a lot of this stuff you guys are advocating.. 911 scandals, Feminist propaganda, world bank conspiracies, etc, etc. But I found that spending too much time in this world was no good for my state of mind. The quality of my thinking began to degrade, and the rest of my life started following suit.

You do raise a good point about people focusing too much on themselves though. I don't want you guys to think I am only advocating self improvement without awareness. Overall consciousness tempered by empowering personal initiative is the balance I'm really trying to strike here, cause neither extreme is healthy!

@ Obsidian

Looking at your last post, I see you got your head together and we agree on more than you think. Only a fool plays the game without knowing his adversaries and it's important to know what we are up against.

I never said we should be ignorant folksSo you know about Alex?? You are not ignorant, then and you are responsible for what you know - the level of instruction that you taught on seduction is a minor minor minor
!!!

I'm actually glad you guys are coming out of the woodwork and challenging this post..it helps me re-iterate that awareness of the problem is important, it's the obsession that's no good for ya.

PS - This is in the Tips Section as a reminder to folks as to who bears the real responsibility for what we do with our lives... I think we've already established that I really don't care what you guys think of me

Truth is not an obsession- wake up!!!! It is not about you - Boricua - it is about humanity!!!!!!! Humanity is your concern - otherwise why post your thoughts ,if they are to be kept in solitude??? It is the public, at large,that you are really concerned about!! Alex is speaking the truth and for you to ignore such insight and wisdom tells me that you have given up on what is real!!! Don't have such a fatalistic attitude, and share truth with all -- you have a basis by which those would listen to your words! Don't waste your position for a message of nothingness - share the real!! TIME IS RUNNING OUT!!!

Weapons Of Mass Destruction is not your greatest work -- it is the least of your potential!!!!! Be a man, it is not about self gratitude, - Damn it!, it is about the whole - you know this!!! Alex was a gift to you!!!

[Last Man Standing]

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[HeartbreakKid]

Originally Posted by Señor Fingers

People focusing too much on themselves though. I don't want you guys to think I am only advocating self improvement without awareness. Overall consciousness tempered by empowering personal initiative is the balance I'm really trying to strike here, cause neither extreme is healthy!

Think i misunderstood what he said last time so I'm re-posting on this one. I still do believe what i said in the last one thou. But what he said basically in lamens is yea you need to be one with yourself and defeat all those battles that are within. But even when thats done if you don't know who or what your up against, it still wont get you far. Likewise as if you know your enemy or whatever were calling it now, but you still have problems with yourself that you haven't fixed, then same result. So self improvement with awareness is key. So your on good terms with yourself knowing that only YOU can make a change for yourself; while being aware of what your up against. Cant really be successfull without the combo..agreed? Know yourself and dont let YOU get in YOUR Way and know what your up against.

[SinJester]

Originally Posted by wayword

You often don't have a choice.This ruling is typical in post-feminist USA:

Wife cheats on hubby and births bastard love child.
Hubby must still legally cuckold child, even though it's not his!
Sooo...not only is this woman not punished for fvcking around on her hubby, but to add insult to injury, he must also legally PAY to raise the product of such cheating now!!!

Can't you see that by making the law the government doesn't have to worry about paying child support to single mothers? Doesn't exactly have to involve feminists.

[ThunderMaverick]

I can understand what you're saying about Alex Jones and negativity and such, Fingz...


....but you can still have order in YOURSELF while seeing the chaos around you. I use to listen to Alex Jones obsessively for the last few years, not so much anymore because I'm trying to focus on myself and improving myself MORE now than I have ever done so in my entire life. However realizing there are powers out there purposely TRYING to keep you plugged in and drive you like a slave has made me much wiser to people offering to follow their lead into ruin. I can honestly say now that because of this I am living for myself and not others. It has made me a free man.

People like Alex Jones and many people from this forum (Dr. P, Victory U. STRT8, Rollo...heh Iqqi) and others have assisted in helping me become a self actualized person.


It's like this; If you're raised in a KKK family and hating ******s is all you know and it seems on the surface it brings your family joy...why NOT not hate black people? Seems like a good deal.

It's like that for the rest of the matrix. Supplicating to a woman is good because that's all you see on T.V. Be cynical to everyone you meet; comebacks are a virtue! Sleep with as many woman as you can...that's what you hear all the time.

People leave this world still trapped in the matrix. People take themselves out of it because they're stuck in it. There are no guides. No signs that point to a better way of living sometimes. It's tough when all you have is yourself. I don't know where I would be without this site. Many people don't know about it. Many people gladly reject it.

How can you define light if you've never seen it?


Great post to Dr. P and Obsidian's last post. PERFECT!

[Bonhomme]

It's neither black nor white. We are part of the society in which we live and have limited control of our destiny. How limited varies greatly from individual to individual based on factors too numerous to go into.

That said it is counterproductive to blame "The Matrix" or anything else for one's problems, but foolish to disregard the forces surrounding you that affect your capabilities... including your very own biochemistry (which, based on my experience and observation, is the most generally underrated of forces that affect people's lives -- and can itself create attitudes of helplessness and despair, whether rational or not -- been there, done that).

It appears to me the practical point Fingz and Francisco are making is that responsibility for yourself will maximize your progress as a person and minimize the mindset of hopelessness that would serve no purpose but to hold you back.

[Bonhomme]

Originally Posted by Francisco d'Anconia

Would guys agree to the relationship if they were told straight away that in order for a woman to legally commit to him he would need to agree to support any offspring born or obtained legally by the woman during the agreement until the child's 18th birthday in addition to supporting the lifestyle of the woman which is created by the union until the agreement is nullified and is activated by another man in a similar agreement? That's the legalities of marriage and you are saying that guys would settle for this in order not to become a bachelor? Isn't that scary?

The system won't be dismantled until individuals unplug on their own to weaken the support of that system. But as long as guy are willing to support it by not sticking to their standards and their own self interest, complaining about the system is just a waste of time.

It's starting to happen, however gradually. The info is getting around, and less guys are buying in without really letting their partner's character stand the test of time, as they become aware of what they're buying into. And mark my words, some ballsy judge will go against that insane precedent ...