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Jariel’s Don Juan Tip Sheet

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The biggest problem with most advice from the seduction community is that it’s so longwinded and needlessly complicated. Therefore, I’m posting my most valuable lessons to date as a simplified tip sheet.

This is the result of all the hard work I've put into my development as a DJ and everything included here comes from personal experience and observations. Treat it as a guide to steer you clear of my failures and point you in the right direction. Putting it into effect is upto you and your efforts.




Self improvement

Self improvement is the surest path you can take to being successful with women, developing confidence and a better lifestyle. It takes time, sacrifice and dedication, but if you are willing to take this route, you will eventually experience the pay offs and be in a position to use it in whichever way you choose.

Just remember, it takes more than looks to be successful with women and self-improvement entails more than just getting in shape – it also involves developing social skills, gaining experience and working on a better way of life for yourself, a lot of which is covered below.


Trial and Error

Study as much seduction theory as you wish, but until you have seen it working, it is just theory so don’t expect miracles! You will hear/read many theories, lies and exaggerations, even from the “experts”, so never follow anything blindly. Get in the field and see for yourself whether it works or not! If it doesn’t, reevaluate it, adapt it or simply drop it and try something else. Learn from trial and error.

Strategies, techniques or lines merely act as a crutch - at some point you are going to have to walk on your own. The more you practise, the sooner you can do this!


Social Experience

Go out and mingle, spend time with friends and friends of friends, strike up conversations with people, get rejected, get numbers, make calls, arrange dates, arrange group meetings and nights out, and learn from your experiences. The more you practice, the more experience you will gain, and the more proficient your social skills will become and the more comfortable you will feel around people.

If you can’t get out for some reason or you currently feel too shy, it’s not a bad thing to chat to women on the internet. It’s risk free conversation practice and cyber-socialising is better than not socialising at all.


Learn to move on and let go

You will get rejected! You will get insulted or hurt! It’s unavoidable and happens to us all. Suck it up, don’t ask questions, don’t try to salvage any losses, explain yourself or repair any mistakes…just let it go! Embrace your failures as part of a learning process that will add to your development as a DJ. The more you fail, the wiser and stronger you will get!

A woman may come back to you for a second chance, she may not, but in all my experience and observations, she will only come back when she is ready and only once you have let go.


Get in shape

Your body can excite or repulse women, it’s your choice. Get in shape! Working out also keeps your mind focused and gives you purpose, while weightlifting increases testosterone, and can help you develop a bold, masculine and confident state of mind.


Women have free will

Women can think for themselves, and the idea that you can control their minds with your words and actions is a lie! Not even hypnotists can control people without their consent and co-operation. So stop trying to control, persuade and convince women and learn to accept their free will and work with them. A woman should be with you because she wants to, not because she feels obliged or because you talked her into it.


Improve your appearance

People do judge on appearances, so think of the statement you wish to convey. Men who look after themselves are men who respect themselves, so always dress and groom well!

Look after your skin, teeth, nails and hygiene. It’s time and money well spent, because looking good will make you feel good, and will also earn you respect from others. Get some opinions, take some tips from the male models in catalogues and the male pin ups that make women drool. Do not be afraid to take a few fashion risks and ignore those who think taking care of yourself is for gays only.


Eat healthy

Your diet is essential to looking good and feeling good. Not only does a nutritious diet improve your body, but also your skin complexion, mental functions, health and your moods.


Overcome your fears

Free yourself of fear. If you’re shy, scared to socialise, scared of rejection, afraid to flirt or go for that first kiss, you MUST eventually overcome this if you ever hope to be successful with women, and you know it! Whatever the consequences, billions of people have suffered it before you and worse than you, and not only survived, but emerged stronger for it. Also, try to consider the consequences of NOT acting! These are often worse! If it takes baby steps to overcome it, then take baby steps, but never retreat from your fears!


Chill out

Don’t take yourself too seriously. Learn to laugh at yourself and shrug your shoulders at life’s trials. Sh!t happens and no amount of analysing or worrying is going to change it. It will only prolong it, so why bother? Go watch the Simpsons or something instead. Maybe you fvck up a few times. We all do! At least you’ll know better next time.


Slow down and stand tall

Slow down and take everything at your own pace. Rushing causes people to make mistakes, speeds up their heart rate, their breathing rate and increases anxiety.

Your posture is very important to how you are perceived by others. A man who hunches his shoulders and holds his head down is perceived as scared, weak and insecure, while a man who stands tall, holds his head high is perceived as strong and confident. More importantly, your posture has a subconscious effect on how you feel.


Learn to appreciate your value

You are the most important person in this entire world! This is your one shot at life, don’t throw it away! Respect yourself and never sell yourself short! Don’t let people walk over you. If people don’t show you the respect that you wish to receive or drag you down, ditch them! It’s better in the long term.

Set standards and stick to them. Never settle for anything less than you deserve.


Get a life

Women are a nice addition to any guy’s life, but they are not essential to it. Find something you enjoy doing and do it. Get a hobby, start a project, seek to achieve some goals. Basically, occupy your mind with enjoyable activities. This way, if you experience a bad period with women, you’re not going to be sitting around dwelling on it, calling her up and making a nuisance of yourself.


Be a man

No, I do not mean a neanderthal, a controlling chauvinist or a lecherous pervert. What I mean is that you must embrace your masculinity. Don’t be shy of flirting and (tactfully) expressing your desires. Women have sexual and emotional desires too and seek men who can fulfill them.

Women also like a man who makes them feel safe, who will take the lead, and who they can look upto. Women don’t want a wimp, an ass kisser, a sucker or indeed anyone who doesn’t respect himself. NEVER play for sympathy, run yourself down, show weakness or whine to her about your problems!


Be cool

Take everything one step at a time, hold no expectations and keep a healthy degree of emotional detachment. Avoid throwing yourself at women, pestering them and craving their attention. Avoid throwing tantrums or getting mad at her when she lets you down, and learn to contain your frustration and anger.

Don’t get involved in their drama, guilt trips or attention seeking. Women often create drama to manipulate guys, then disrespect them for being under their control, so walk away from it and show her that you are the one with the power and give attention on your terms.


Know when to exercise indifference

Similar to the above, if a woman disrespects you, disappoints you, plays games with you or starts showing low interest, respond with indifference. Anger, jealousy, frustration and desperation are all responses that will feed a woman’s ego and give her some degree of power over you. Indifference shows that they cannot control you or take you for granted and places the power back in your hands.

People value most what they fear losing or cannot have. Giving her a taste of loss can give her chance to appreciate your value and teach her not to pull any little stunts on you.



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Sound advice from a poster I respect. Nice one Jariel.
 

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Keep your options open

Unless you are in an established relationship, you should never focus all your hopes on one woman. Even if there is one you like above all others, you need to continue talking and flirting with other women, so that if one fails, you can move on and explore other potential opportunities. Also, it doesn’t hurt to subtly let women know about these other options, just to express your value and to let them know you can’t be taken for granted and won’t be available forever.


Dates should be fun

Dates should not be focused on scoring with a chick or getting laid, because that gives her all the power and puts you with all the other average chumps she’s ever dated. Dates should be enjoyable and memorable experiences for both you and her, and should leave her wanting more. A fun date also distracts from the tension between you, increases comfort levels and associates you with fun.


Being nice is not a bad thing

Many of you have been conditioned to think that being nice is a turn off for women, and you must therefore go to the opposite extreme to be successful. That’s wrong! When girls talk about “nice guys” they are talking about guys who are nice with ulterior motives, guys who supplicate, won’t stand up for themselves or lack sexuality.

Being friendly, upbeat and respectful can only be a good thing because it draws people towards you. You can be an arrogant jerk and prove to others that you are better than them, but no one likes to feel inferior so don’t be surprised if you find yourself very lonely. No self-respecting woman will tolerate a jerk, just as no self-respecting man will tolerate a b1tch.


Learn how to pay compliments

A well timed and sincere compliment can make a woman feel good, and make her feel great about being with you. It also starts guessing if she has a chance with you. But use them sparingly and on your terms.

Avoid generic compliments like calling her “hot” or “sexy” or even “attractive”, and sexually forward compliments about her ass, breasts or body in general. Good examples include complimenting the way she is dressed, has her hair on a particular day, or about her intelligence, determination, or on how you enjoy her company or conversation.



Learn how to flirt

There’s a difference between a flirt and a lech and it’s important to know the difference. Flirting should be subtle - a light show of interest, such as eye contact, smiling, compliments, pet names, discrete touching and verbal expressions of interest and alike. Then learn how to escalate it. If one day you’re tapping each other on the arm during conversation, then try to escalate to putting your arm round her once in a while, then escalate to tickling her neck and on towards the first kiss.


Avoid attention wh0res

Majority of the problems, mindgames and cynicism towards women posted about on this forum originate from attention wh0res. The best way to deal with them is to learn how to recognise them and then avoid them completely! Even if you can win them over, it will not last. They will always crave attention from other men, tease and disrespect you, manipulate you, seek power over you, and cannot be trusted. They are a drain on a man’s time and emotions, and will usually damage your confidence and faith in women for a long time to come.


Learn how to read signs of interest

Learning to gauge a woman’s interest through her body language, words and signals can be very useful indeed. Not only do they give you a green light to make your move, but it’s a good indication of how well or how badly you are interacting with her.


If a woman is interested, she will make it easy for you

Seducing an interested woman is simplicity itself! If a woman is interested in you, she will make it very easy for you to seduce her. She will make an effort to see and talk to you. She will send you signals and drop hints that she likes you. She will get close to you. She may even try to create opportunities for you to kiss her.

A girl who is not interested, however, will make things a lot tougher, brush off meeting you, turn away from you, keep her distance so you can't touch or kiss her. Time to move on.


Never over-analyse

While it’s useful to know what women mean when they say or do certain things, you should never spend time analysing. People say and do things for a variety of reasons and your (often subjective and emotionally clouded) interpretation stands like 1% chance of being accurate. Sometimes it’s best to take things at face value, because over-analysing is a downhill slope towards insanity, paranoia and delusion!


Keep your cards close to your chest, but not too close

In the initial stages of seduction or dating, you should never reveal how you feel, even if she tries to prompt you or asks you. Showing your interest should be treated like a volume slider: if you raise the volume too loud, she’s going to get freaked out! So you need to turn it up gradually so she feels comfortable as things progress.


Have female friends

“Female friends” is a much feared phrase among many guys, but they have great benefits. You can learn a lot from listening to and observing female friends, how they interact with guys and what they go for in a guy. They also make for good flirting practice, social proof and can introduce you to other women and new social groups. And obviously, regularly spending time in female company will improve your conversational skills with women and your comfort levels.



Conclusion

Whether you’re looking for a relationship or just looking to get laid by multiple women, this advice should serve you well. What I’m talking about here is not a list of techniques, but rather a long-term development. It will take time, but treat every day as an investment in your future and you can become naturally successful with women, confident and contented.

Every average frustrated chump in the world wants quick and easy fixes to their problems and spend their life running in circles searching for them. Meanwhile, those who perservere with their goals will soon pass them by and go on to great success.

Good luck!
 

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Women have free will

Women can think for themselves, and the idea that you can control their minds with your words and actions is a lie!
Yes consent is vital, but with masterly frame-control you can certainly achieve similar results to a stage hypnotist. As long as the subject is having fun they will be very suggestible to your commands. One should use these powers for good not evil if at all possible/convenient.

Other than that minor quibble, these are mighty truths that all men should know.
 

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Bad post. One of the reasons is because you don't actually believe in any of the theory that you write about. In many other posts I have seen you talk about how LOOKS is the only thing that really matters. You talk about how average looking guys do not hook up with good looking girls in long term relationships because the girls are never happy. Yet you contradict yourself by saying that you became interested in a HB7 because you thought she had a good personality.
Another contradiction is all this talk about social experimentation yet you love telling people that cold approaches don't work. So just because they don't work for you, apparently everyone else has to have the exact same results as you.
Another error is how you think a woman will make it easy if they have interest. This would only happen if she's either extremely interested in you or if she's desperate, but most women will not throw themselves towards someone.
Chatting with women over the internet is also not good advice for someone who is shy. Do you honestly think a shy person is pushing their comfort zones by sitting in a chair anonymously typing to someone behind a computer screen? If anything, that person would become more shy and timid in real life.
 

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"Another error is how you think a woman will make it easy if they have interest. This would only happen if she's either extremely interested in you or if she's desperate, but most women will not throw themselves towards someone."

hahahaha very funny Mr P.


btw good thread jariel!
 

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Permission said:
Another error is how you think a woman will make it easy if they have interest. This would only happen if she's either extremely interested in you or if she's desperate, but most women will not throw themselves towards someone.
I have girls throwing themselves at me, and not because they're desperate :D

Girls do throw themselves at guys when the guys worth it. If you're not working towards being the target of said throwing, then you're missing the whole point.
 

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Very good post Dan . This is the kind of posts I wait for when i rarely visit the site . I mean at times you feel so empty , pressurrized to have everything perfect and trying to prove to yourself that you haven't lost it . However . I want to ask you or rather discuss with you Dan something regarding social experience and confidence in general :

When im not in contact with frds , girls due to whatever reason (lately cz of injury ) , it's like you are loosing the effective habits and mindsets that you have learned naturally after all those trial and errors with girls , then it becomes worse by trying to prove to yourself that being yourself and flowing with nature without any tips , techniques is the right way but still since you were not in the game , field since long you start to self-doubt yourself , etc... then you come here trying to re-read tips for reassurance , get fake confidence then you found yourself making things serious , not having fun , not congruent with yourself , relying on techniques but also few posts like this for example manage to remove the self-limiting barriers inside the mind and confirming the attitude that it's all about the man , attitude , boldness etc...(that's why i come hungry for posts like this if im having problems with life and girls but however i think i shouldn't live like this or rely on this)

I don't want to read anymore or take things seriously but at times when you can't work out (injury) , bored of routines , you start to 2nd guess your actions , analyze yet again , feel yourself empty . Clueless

What shall one do to cure this ? especially the building rapport with girls as i have problems getting to the next step and sometimes need a guide to rely on either for self-improvment or with girls as i also tend to perfectionlize things alot .

What do you do when your 2 steps forward one step behind ? when you don't know what to do next in self-improvment and need a plan or need to follow a plan .

This is when things seem dark and bad for me . I don't want to read and intellectualize seduction , dating ... but still deep down i want to build the inner-self , true confidence but don't know how or it's not clear how since im pressurring myself...when things are going great , smooth , confidence get high and higher and i find myself around girls alot of time , know what i want to with life , girls throwing themselves at me ...
 

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HB_Hunter said:
What shall one do to cure this ? especially the building rapport with girls as i have problems getting to the next step and sometimes need a guide to rely on either for self-improvment or with girls as i also tend to perfectionlize things alot .

What do you do when your 2 steps forward one step behind ? when you don't know what to do next in self-improvment and need a plan or need to follow a plan .
Hey Ahmed, sorry for not replying to your email btw, but I can't access my pop3 email from uni and haven't had much time to use it at home.

It sucks to hear about your injury, and I know what you mean about your mindset and confidence getting rusty. This happens in all activities when we don't practise something, like athletes who are out due to injury and have to go through rehab to get back into the game.

I've never really had to face this problem, so I can't give you first hand experience here, but I believe once you get on your feet again and start practising, things should start coming naturally again. It may take time, but you'll start to get a feel for it again and you should be able to get back to where you were with time and practise.

Good luck and hope your injury gets better soon!
 

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Permission said:
Bad post. One of the reasons is because you don't actually believe in any of the theory that you write about. In many other posts I have seen you talk about how LOOKS is the only thing that really matters.
In all honesty, I don't recall ever saying that looks is the ONLY thing that matters. I do think appearance is extremely important, and by that I don't mean genetic good looks; I mean, good image, grooming and body, which is in the grasp of everyone.


Another contradiction is all this talk about social experimentation yet you love telling people that cold approaches don't work.[/i] So just because they don't work for you, apparently everyone else has to have the exact same results as you.
I still don't believe they do work effectively in terms of picking up quality women, and this is where a lot of guys will disagree with me, including some of the top members here. But remember, everything I've posted comes from personal experience, and I'm yet to see proof of cold approaches working effectively for me or anyone.

This is why I prefer to promote social networking rather than cold approaching.

Another error is how you think a woman will make it easy if they have interest.[/i] This would only happen if she's either extremely interested in you or if she's desperate, but most women will not throw themselves towards someone.
I didn't say they would throw themselves at you; I said they'd make it easy - in other words, make it easy for YOU to make the move. In my experience they do.

Chatting with women over the internet is also not good advice for someone who is shy.[/i] Do you honestly think a shy person is pushing their comfort zones by sitting in a chair anonymously typing to someone behind a computer screen? If anything, that person would become more shy and timid in real life.
I agree that ideally a shy person should be getting out more and talking to people in real life, but in reality, many shy people won't be willing to do that.

Talking online is just one of the many baby steps they need to take to build a little confidence and conversational skill. People can develop and practise their conversation, humour and even seduction online without the nervousness and fear that goes with real life, so can be more natural. When the time comes, they can adapt their newly developed conversation skills to real social circles.
 

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Jariel said:
I'm yet to see proof of cold approaches working effectively for me or anyone.
Okay then, fair enough. I guess all the top members on all these communities are just making things up. Accordingly, we should not sarge on, we should sarge off.
 

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Permission said:
Okay then, fair enough. I guess all the top members on all these communities are just making things up. Accordingly, we should not sarge on, we should sarge off.
I think I understand why your reputation feature is disabled, because I was just about to dock you one. What are you talking about, man. This advice is gold. Don't hate.
 

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Jariel said:
I still don't believe they do work effectively in terms of picking up quality women, and this is where a lot of guys will disagree with me, including some of the top members here. But remember, everything I've posted comes from personal experience, and I'm yet to see proof of cold approaches working effectively for me or anyone.

im interested in your definition of a cold approach
 

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I love Hyori Lee said:
I think I understand why your reputation feature is disabled, because I was just about to dock you one. What are you talking about, man. This advice is gold. Don't hate.
I'm confused at why you quoted me there. I said at first that cold approaches work, he said they don't work, then I said I agreed with him that they don't work, and then you say I'm hating? So regardless of whether I agree with him or disagree with him I'm "hating"? I disabled my reputation factor so that the 90% of keyboard jockeys and AFCs on here wouldn't try to give or take points away since I don't validate their opinion one way or another. (Another reason is that it's stupid, all the old members have virtually no points and members who sit on the computer posting tons will always have a much greater chance of getting points.)

Anyway, I'm done with this thread. I agree with everything Jariel said in this post now after listening more to his arguments: cold approaches don't work, the internet is a good place to build social skills, and looks are "extremely important". See, I'm not hating anymore, his advice is gold, as you say.
 

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TheTrader said:
im interested in your definition of a cold approach
I define a cold approach as approaching a complete stranger without receiving any kind of signal (eye contact, smile etc) and chatting her up in the hope of getting a number.

I suppose it's not fair of me to say they don't work, period, because even though I've not seen it for myself, I believe some guys do get dates from them. However, in terms of a success/failure ratio, even the top guys admit to looking at a LOT more fails than successes, which I consider a lot of wasted time, and a massive blow to the confidence of anyone starting out. I also believe any woman who gives her number to a stranger seems a bit too easy and should be treated with caution.

Personally, I prefer to go for "warm approaches" where I have some kind of signal first or have a common topic to break the ice (i.e. they're friends of my friends, they work or study the same place as me etc). I'd estimate I have over 80% success ratio in these cases.

I should also clarify that I consider cold approaching in bars/clubs an exception, as women are under the effects of alcohol and often out looking for guys. These definitely DO work, and in my opinion is the easiest way for any guy to get laid (providing that's all he wants).
 

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Thanks hyori. :) I did consider it unfair for him to say it's a bad post, because I do stand by all the advice as fact, since it's all tried and tested by me.

But generally I respect anyone who challenges my advice if they think it's wrong.
 
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