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Post #3,000!!! Judge nismo's 2014 review and second half deck!

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All rise! Court is now in session. The honorable Judge nismo presiding. You may be seated.

This is post #3,000 for me. Every year since 2008, I’ve made a list of tips and whatnots.

2008: 21 Points of advice http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=137507
2009: 22 Points of advice: http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=156347
2010: 99 things that girls find attractive: http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=170847

I then took the red pill and became the forum’s judge, telling it like it is.

2011: 58 facebook statuses and an online decoder ring http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=181387
2012: A very popular stickied thread. Your princess is in another castle! http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=191182
And its sequel http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=192273

It totals 69 common ass cases and my first deck of cards! God Damn!

2013: Written in May, A major, MAJOR review! http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=204816

That was my largest deck of cards ever written here.

Father’s day 2013, I was named to the sosuave board of moderators!

I’ve dispensed lots of useful info over the years. So much so that this year, I’m dealing out a half deck of cards. Mainly recommended readings. After reviewing so many cases and closing them here, some guys just can’t take the hint. When a girl ain’t interested, she ain’t f**kin’ interested. Take it as she’s in another castle and move on! What did Mario do when he got to the end of World 1-4 and heard the princess was in another castle? That’s right, he moved on to World 2-1 without complaining, even though he was just flipped off by Toad.

I have had a great number of posters come through this courtroom and teach me some cool stuff. Things that everybody needs to know and remember.

Knowing my rep around here, I don’t really spare anybody’s feelings. I tell it to you like it is and get right to the point. I cringe at these long ass stories about ONE chick! Often times it’s solved by spinning more plates and moving on.

Without further ado, I present my second half deck of cards with one joker! I’m 27 so I’m going back to the roots! Points= my age! Here’s the deal.

Thanks buzzin frog for these first 3 threads.

1. Being persistent with a chick who "only wants to be friends" is a waste of time.
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=211819

Then again, we all know about the friendzone. 100% frustration, 0% penetration.

2. Uninterested chicks won’t f**k you! Quit wasting your time on them!
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=208637

If only mother**kers could take a hint!

3. 10 golden rules for the DJ mindset
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=205938

Be in the right physical and mental frame!

4. Elmer Gantry provides this one. Don’t let your girlfriend disrespect you or you will lose your girlfriend.
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=184662

When you become submissive, who the f**k do you think gets the power?

5. I love this one from Maximus Rex! Lay down that pimp hand!
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=212131 Post #12

Stop being a rest haven for b**ches!

6. Pandora got the crowds buzzing on the subject of waiting for sex!
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=204027

Waiting for it shows you don’t have an abundant supply.

7. About taking a break courtesy of Maximus Rex and others
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=212178

W0manese bullsh*t is crazy ain’t it?

8. On taking it slow, Moes found out the hard way
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=207614

Excuses are used to deflect betas.

9. On ghosting…Bingo-Player, it’s obvious why ghosting is good for you.
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=212131

Chasing women is never good. Hence why she’s in another castle.

10. Is this a blowoff? Use celebrity maxims WCS14!
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=211772

If you think your princess is in another castle, she usually is.

11. Mixed signals courtesy of Judge nismo!
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=207848

Eject when you’re getting them!

12. A word about pedestalizing women, which means she has already won! You’re right, Mr. Wright!
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=207636

Do women make posts about guys confusing them? I think minimally before calling up the next guy in their iphone 5.

13. teddy sees that women get angry that men refuse to be friends with women!
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=211547

Because the man refuses to be some emotional tampon.

14. Similar to the above, Robert28 helps us see that persistence pays off in career, but not so much in dating.
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=211760

We can still be friends my ass!

15. Judge nismo presents the universal female excuse archive!
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=207010

How many of these lame-ass excuses have you gotten?

16. skinnyguy has gotten the truth about IHAB (I have a boyfriend)!
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=208030

Which BTW is a rejection.

17. Lost in translation? Bradd80 and others got us covered with the official ongoing translator!
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=195993

How much of this bullsh*t sounds familiar to you?

PlayHer Man has these next three. Of course his harsh, realistic posts made it here! :D

18. Are you a weak beta?
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=207613

Take control goddammit!

19. Women don’t give a sh*t, unless it benefits them.
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=207563

There is no f**kin’ princess. If you treat a woman as such, she’ll be in another castle.

20. Men care too much and it’s their downfall
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=208099

When you care more than the girl, she has the power and your ass has lost!

Come on back, buzzin’ frog! Thanks for two more great posts! :up:

21. About flaking
http://sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=204155

We need to amend to 2 strikes rule into a 1 strike rule.

22. About indifference
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=209317

Somebody else realizes that indifference (or any male game, for that matter) only works when the girl has some interest.

23. PlayHer Man gives more insight on the friendzone here
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=212303

LJBF’s, IHAB’s, and LTIS’s are all REJECTIONS!

24. You know a girl is blowing you off when… Thank you Cassify!
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=195556

Read the signs! Mixed signals are negative signals. Don’t delude yourself.

25. You did it again buzzin frog! You give great insight on improvement.
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=212269

Men value love, women love value. Raise your value. Work out. Eat better. I lost 19 pounds in 3 weeks. Start somewhere. Start now.

26. We need some humor here! Thanks Mike32ct!
http://sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=201079

What is the funniest thing you heard a female say?

THAT joker is about NEXTING (dropping her ass, however you wanna call it), and comes from a guy on THE RATIONAL MALE.

You can’t NEXT a girl you haven’t ****ed.

Too many guys are like “oh she didn’t return my call…NEXT!! showed that b**ch!”. No, SHE NEXT’ed YOU because your game sucks and to protect your ego you’re ignoring the fact that somewhere along the way you f**ked up attracting her so she didn’t return your call and you’re creating a blindspot where you think you “won” instead of figuring out why she didn’t return your call and learning to overcome that.

“oh she flaked on me…NEXT!!!!”. No, you suck and didn’t attract her enough for her to show up. She wouldn’t flake on Brad Pitt. Analyze why she flaked on you and accept that you lost that one because your game needs work.

“I told her not to do something and she did it…NEXT!!!”. No, you suck and should figure out why she thought it was acceptable to disrespect you. What vibe are you giving off that she thinks you’ll put up with that sh*t?

If a girl is making you wait more than 3 dates for sex, your escalation sucks and you are not attractive to her (or you’re too attractive and have placed yourself in the Provider category where she wants to impress you by not putting out, or you suck at screening and qualifying and are out with a nun, etc). The point is, figure out why she wouldn’t put out. Sometimes it’s not your fault but like 90% of the time it is, if you can swallow your pride and actually objectively analyze your game.

You can stop pursuing her if she doesn’t put out, but don’t act like you’re The Man and NEXT’ed her. You f**ked up and then gave up and probably can’t even explain WHY she didn’t put out.

I’ve been writing these yearly summaries since 2008, and I wonder what I’ll have for 2015? Something will come to mind.

When the princess is in another castle, just accept it. Trust your gut.

If nothing further, we’ll stand adjourned.

Have a great V-Day and stay alpha!

There is no knowledge that is not power.
 
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This thread has my stamp of approval. Especially this:

If a girl is making you wait more than 3 dates for sex, your escalation sucks and you are not attractive to her (or you’re too attractive and have placed yourself in the Provider category where she wants to impress you by not putting out, or you suck at screening and qualifying and are out with a nun, etc). The point is, figure out why she wouldn’t put out. Sometimes it’s not your fault but like 90% of the time it is, if you can swallow your pride and actually objectively analyze your game.
I don't think I've EVER had to "wait" for sex, it usually happens the first or second time we hang out with proper logistics.
 

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Thanks for the compilation, your work is much appreciated. One thing I would like to discuss.

You can’t NEXT a girl you haven’t ****ed.

Too many guys are like “oh she didn’t return my call…NEXT!! showed that b**ch!”. No, SHE NEXT’ed YOU because your game sucks and to protect your ego you’re ignoring the fact that somewhere along the way you f**ked up attracting her so she didn’t return your call and you’re creating a blindspot where you think you “won” instead of figuring out why she didn’t return your call and learning to overcome that.

“oh she flaked on me…NEXT!!!!”. No, you suck and didn’t attract her enough for her to show up. She wouldn’t flake on Brad Pitt. Analyze why she flaked on you and accept that you lost that one because your game needs work.
“I told her not to do something and she did it…NEXT!!!”. No, you suck and should figure out why she thought it was acceptable to disrespect you. What vibe are you giving off that she thinks you’ll put up with that sh*t?

If a girl is making you wait more than 3 dates for sex, your escalation sucks and you are not attractive to her (or you’re too attractive and have placed yourself in the Provider category where she wants to impress you by not putting out, or you suck at screening and qualifying and are out with a nun, etc). The point is, figure out why she wouldn’t put out. Sometimes it’s not your fault but like 90% of the time it is, if you can swallow your pride and actually objectively analyze your game.

You can stop pursuing her if she doesn’t put out, but don’t act like you’re The Man and NEXT’ed her. You f**ked up and then gave up and probably can’t even explain WHY she didn’t put out.
I'm someone who believes that there are many things out of your control. I had this discussion with a close friend of mine where his stance is that everything is in your control under perfect seduction.I believe you can do everything right and still have your d!ck in hand.

My stance is you cast a big enough net and you repeat the process to reel the school in. There are kinks you need to fix and adjustments to make the process more efficient and successful. I will go as far to say that analyzing can be detrimental to your game. There's too many unknowns to get a good assessment, or any at all. You develop an efficient strategy and put all women through it and you NEXT them if they defect, even if it means throwing the baby out with the bathwater. I've applied this with good results as early as the first 'Hello.' Analyzing your interactions with irrational minds will send you to oblivion. Be indifferent. Become zen.
 

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nismo-4 said:
You can’t NEXT a girl you haven’t ****ed.
This is basically just semantics and doesn't really matter IMO. The point of NEXTing, whether or not you've f*cked, is to read the situation correctly and move on from the girl early on with dignity instead of dragging it out and wasting time.
 

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So can nismo-4, the moderator of this forum, respond? We would like to hear his opinion on this =]
 

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You can’t NEXT a girl you haven’t ****ed.

Too many guys are like “oh she didn’t return my call…NEXT!! showed that b**ch!”. No, SHE NEXT’ed YOU because your game sucks and to protect your ego you’re ignoring the fact that somewhere along the way you f**ked up attracting her so she didn’t return your call and you’re creating a blindspot where you think you “won” instead of figuring out why she didn’t return your call and learning to overcome that.

“oh she flaked on me…NEXT!!!!”. No, you suck and didn’t attract her enough for her to show up. She wouldn’t flake on Brad Pitt. Analyze why she flaked on you and accept that you lost that one because your game needs work.
“I told her not to do something and she did it…NEXT!!!”. No, you suck and should figure out why she thought it was acceptable to disrespect you. What vibe are you giving off that she thinks you’ll put up with that sh*t?

If a girl is making you wait more than 3 dates for sex, your escalation sucks and you are not attractive to her (or you’re too attractive and have placed yourself in the Provider category where she wants to impress you by not putting out, or you suck at screening and qualifying and are out with a nun, etc). The point is, figure out why she wouldn’t put out. Sometimes it’s not your fault but like 90% of the time it is, if you can swallow your pride and actually objectively analyze your game.

You can stop pursuing her if she doesn’t put out, but don’t act like you’re The Man and NEXT’ed her. You f**ked up and then gave up and probably can’t even explain WHY she didn’t put out.
I disagree with a lot of this. I think it's far too generalized, as most of the material is on here. I would say people next girls far too early, but who's to say whether that's what's right for them or not. I know a lot of guys value the high interest level mentality. I can see the appeal of that, it just reduces the numbers a little bit. I think you only need the physical attraction and a small amount of intrigue from a woman to be able to game her. But at the end of the day, DJing is about being the man you want to be. If guys value their time and self respect to the highest level, they may not want to play the game with the mid level interest and I can understand that. That's not to say the newbies should adopt that mindset.

Again, the < 3 dates for sex rule is too rigid and doesn't take into account what you're after in a woman. Age would be the first factor as I've noticed older women outside of one night stands will sometimes take a few more dates. 19 year olds on the other hand just need to be taken to a pub and have a couple of drinks which I would barely call a date. I'd prefer a woman not to hop on my **** within three dates since I'm screening for LTR and that's a little slutty. My last relationship it was four dates, for the record.

I see a lot of advice on here that is basically if you're being confident, dressed well and have even moderate game, you should be doing fine. So if you meet this criteria and a specific woman isn't showing a lot of interest after 20-30 minutes with you, she's probably never going to be so why waste more time trying to "game" her? I can tell within 10 minutes of an approach what my chances are, what the girl is like, whether or not I'm interested in her and thus, whether I should commit more time to it.
 

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IndeedSir said:
I disagree with a lot of this. I think it's far too generalized, as most of the material is on here. I would say people next girls far too early, but who's to say whether that's what's right for them or not. I know a lot of guys value the high interest level mentality. I can see the appeal of that, it just reduces the numbers a little bit. I think you only need the physical attraction and a small amount of intrigue from a woman to be able to game her. But at the end of the day, DJing is about being the man you want to be. If guys value their time and self respect to the highest level, they may not want to play the game with the mid level interest and I can understand that. That's not to say the newbies should adopt that mindset.

That all depends on what material you are reading!!

If a girl isn't showing you any interest right off the bat.....then chances are you won't be getting much out of her except a waste of time!!.....that's why you put her at the bottom of your list until she shows you the necessary interest.....why would you waste your time when you can see things aren't going anywhere?.....you contradicted yourself....If DJing is about being the man you want to be....then why would you waste your time on a mid level interest chick when you can bang high interest level chicks instead?



IndeedSir said:
I can tell within 10 minutes of an approach what my chances are, what the girl is like, whether or not I'm interested in her and thus, whether I should commit more time to it.

you contradicted yourself.....a woman can tell the same thing in 10 minutes as well....she will know whether she will sleep with you or not during those first 10 minutes....so, if you value your time and self respect you won't waste your time on a chick who is showing low or no interest....if you can tell she doesn't have high interest, why would you want newbies not to follow the correct DJ mind set?


IndeedSir said:
Again, the < 3 dates for sex rule is too rigid and doesn't take into account what you're after in a woman. Age would be the first factor as I've noticed older women outside of one night stands will sometimes take a few more dates. 19 year olds on the other hand just need to be taken to a pub and have a couple of drinks which I would barely call a date. I'd prefer a woman not to hop on my **** within three dates since I'm screening for LTR and that's a little slutty. My last relationship it was four dates, for the record.

How the hell is it too rigid?......When a chick determines whether she will sleep with you or not in the first 10 minutes of meeting you.....she had plenty enough time to pull the trigger to fvck on the first, second, or third date.....if you're only looking for a bang, anything more is waste of time because chicks will string you along.....some dudes will go on for a long time with nothing to show for it.....then these same chicks will fvck some other guy on the first date.....high interest equals getting laid.....anything less will get you used and strung along!!

LTR's are different......you don't want a chick for an LTR that puts out on the first date....you are trying to lump everything into one category!!


IndeedSir said:
I see a lot of advice on here that is basically if you're being confident, dressed well and have even moderate game, you should be doing fine. So if you meet this criteria and a specific woman isn't showing a lot of interest after 20-30 minutes with you, she's probably never going to be so why waste more time trying to "game" her? I can tell within 10 minutes of an approach what my chances are, what the girl is like, whether or not I'm interested in her and thus, whether I should commit more time to it.

You have to have real confidence to be really successful.....which stems from having success with women in order to be truly confident....some men preach "fake confidence"....which is why they don't get laid or end up with sh!tty women who abuse them in relationships....those guys are really betas who pretend to be something they are not....when they slip up, they are shown to be who they truly are....unconfident betas!!

That is a waste of time trying to game low/no interest chicks....but you contradicted yourself again, because you believe in not "nexting chicks too early"

When you see nothing happening...... you next....that isn't too early....you save yourself a lot of time from being wasted by uninterested chicks!!

Remember, uninterested chicks will never fvck you....that's why you bang the high interest chicks instead!!
 

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buzzin_frog said:
That all depends on what material you are reading!!

If a girl isn't showing you any interest right off the bat.....then chances are you won't be getting much out of her except a waste of time!!.....that's why you put her at the bottom of your list until she shows you the necessary interest.....why would you waste your time when you can see things aren't going anywhere?.....you contradicted yourself....If DJing is about being the man you want to be....then why would you waste your time on a mid level interest chick when you can bang high interest level chicks instead?
Finding a woman of proper interest level saves you a lot of time! If her IL is not high enough, groveling, pleading, explaining and begging will not help you. You get on with your life, you can also work with plates because women love men who are in demand.

buzzin_frog said:
you contradicted yourself.....a woman can tell the same thing in 10 minutes as well....she will know whether she will sleep with you or not during those first 10 minutes....so, if you value your time and self respect you won't waste your time on a chick who is showing low or no interest....if you can tell she doesn't have high interest, why would you want newbies not to follow the correct DJ mind set?
You should waste time on people who would waste time on you.

buzzin_frog said:
How the hell is it too rigid?......When a chick determines whether she will sleep with you or not in the first 10 minutes of meeting you.....she had plenty enough time to pull the trigger to fvck on the first, second, or third date.....if you're only looking for a bang, anything more is waste of time because chicks will string you along.....some dudes will go on for a long time with nothing to show for it.....then these same chicks will fvck some other guy on the first date.....high interest equals getting laid.....anything less will get you used and strung along!!
Basically. IL illustrated. With a high IL a woman will accept being bull$hitted, being a 2nd or 3rd woman, having to jump through hoops and even back bend.

buzzin_frog said:
LTR's are different......you don't want a chick for an LTR that puts out on the first date....you are trying to lump everything into one category!!
The pull might be strong enough on the first date that she's like "why not"? So don't think just cause you pounded her on the first date that it's not LTR worthy.

buzzin_frog said:
You have to have real confidence to be really successful.....which stems from having success with women in order to be truly confident....some men preach "fake confidence"....which is why they don't get laid or end up with sh!tty women who abuse them in relationships....those guys are really betas who pretend to be something they are not....when they slip up, they are shown to be who they truly are....unconfident betas!!
Not quite. I learned for example after having my wife at the time turn on me and starve me out the pu$$y, that a man is born as a baby and reborn each time he enters the birth canal. Getting pu$$y is critical to your performance as DJ and your confidence and swagger.

If you go on a drought or become starved for sex and affection, women will be able to tell! It's in your pheromones. Something is just off, and women don't flock to feed a starving man. They do the opposite, a man who looks like he's "full" of sex and intimacy they will throw their panties at him! Like he doesn't have enough! That's how many of them are.

buzzin_frog said:
That is a waste of time trying to game low/no interest chicks....but you contradicted yourself again, because you believe in not "nexting chicks too early"
It is a waste of time. You don't have to throw them away though, get some plates that are working for you and backburner this one. You will find once you have success with other ladies their interest can become peaked. This is how competitive women are.

buzzin_frog said:
When you see nothing happening...... you next....that isn't too early....you save yourself a lot of time from being wasted by uninterested chicks!!

Remember, uninterested chicks will never fvck you....that's why you bang the high interest chicks instead!!
Perfect since, made simple and true! Interest level is crucial.

However there are a lot of things you can do to tilt the balances in your favor and increase IL. It's not a overnight proposition.
 
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