Why is chasing attention wh0res still a thing? You can't bend the odds

I've been seeing so many threads lately about dating and fvcking attention wh0res. People are asking for advice that will somehow get the odds to work in their favor when dealing with these types of women. It's not worth it, and you can't bend the odds. If you're getting yourself worried, and have to go out of your way, then you already lost.

These types of women get tons of male attention in person and on apps (Facebook, Snapchat, text, etc.) You aren't going to be able to persuade one who you don't or barely even know through these means. There's too many guys doing the same thing, and she cares about none of them. "I'll break her balls a little, and post a snarky comment. That'll get her attention." Doing that online has a much different effect than it does in person. In person she'll remember it, and depending on how you conducted it, she might be attracted. Online she'll be like "WTF" for five seconds before the white knight orbiters come in, and she'll forget it immediately. You have to remember women with fragile egos will ALWAYS bend things around to where they did no wrong, and are in the right.

The only true way of getting these types is if you meet them for the first time at a party/bar where she's looking to screw, or if you're consistently seeing her at a place, and it's purely incidential (NOT "running into her" at the gym.) Even then you have to play things perfectly. Don't give them any attention at first, talk/flirt very little here and there, show you aren't worried about her, and she'll eventually start chasing you. When she does you have to play things right and if you want her be quick to take action. These women will always have a backup guy lined up for if you don't reciprocate.

But keep in mind these types get very board of you quick. Once they got you, the newness of having a "hard to get" guy wears off, and she goes onto the next one. Don't get too attached if you're going to get involved.

I understand what you guys see in these women, but still it's best to stay away. Though occasionally we meet a girl whos an attention wh0re, and we're captured by her. Infact, my last fling was a girl like this. They play that "good girl" role, and you actually believe it at first. You ignore the red flags because you feel that deep down they might be different. The tattoos and red flags begin to pile, you try to look past it, thinking they're somehow the only tattoo crazed chick who isn't like the others. But eventually you realize you're fooling yourself and have to walk away, but it's not as disappointing as it is with other women. I guess because with these types you kind of know deep down what they are before going in.

Just be careful. We really don't need so many threads about this subject.

100% true, once these girls feel like they have you, they lose interest

Because men dont understand how many of them flood the gates,they still think they matter, read my thread where i was dating online as a cute chick for some time 'the attention experiment ' .Its like trying to clean floor with tootbrush you can make it but it isnt worth time and effort because you compete with countless desperate guys who have nothing else to do.

What is worse women feel empowered by attention and it corrupts their soul.Most of them are emotionally damaged because too much attention boost your ego and lowers empathy.Power corrupts.

Trying to win chick online is like trying to win in casino.There are some winners and it encourages the majority of loosers.

These men do not, fvcking do not deserve any mercy or respect because they gladly give away for free their most precious,non renewable resourse - their time.They allow to flush their time to toilet for amusement of stupid chicks.It makes much more sense to make some money instead and get into sugar daddy deal or rent top quality escort or at least travel to country where women wants you - but you need brain to figure it out at least you get some real action with tight pvssy instead spending days,weeks,months in front of computer screen.

These women dont come online to fvck or text you for fvck,they wait for alpha to come and you are their toyboy,her personal clown so she is not bored in the meantime.

'Small talk,date and sex OR fvck you, lady'

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You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to JohnyTheArrow again.

There are no simply attractive women left in America who have not been corrupted to the core with TV and cell phones. TV does it by showing them lots of examples of rich, handsome men who do anything for women. Their cell phones do it by allowing them to stay in touch with 1000 people in real time, all of whom are fake in some major way, the vast majority of whom are lying to her and borrowing to make themselves appear wealthy.

The end result is, women can't possibly appreciate a man.

For example, I took home $4080 last week. That's 48 hours at $85 per hour. It's more than 95% of people, and it took 20 years to get the skills to earn that much, but do you think that would impress even a 21 year old girl? Even though the busboys they dumpster dive with make $200 a week? Listening to them speak and they'll say things like "When I'm rich someday and own my own law firm and have maids and butlers..." and here they are in Community College.

Meanwhile, a lot of guys making what I make max out their credit so they have a huge house and Ferrari, but are up to their eyeballs in debt. We must compete with these clowns. Try having no debt and receiving no Government handouts and you'll appear to live quite modestly, no matter how much you make.

And for the record, full time (40 hours per week) strippers make an average of $50,000 per year ($25 per hour). The top 10% make $60,000 ($30 per hour). The top 1% make $70,000 ($35 per hour). They can never make much more than that. Other women normalize that market. So they take home about $750 - $1000 per week. The problem is, in their minds they make $300 an hour.

bigneil said:

There are no simply attractive women left in America who have not been corrupted to the core with TV and cell phones. TV does it by showing them lots of examples of rich, handsome men who do anything for women. Their cell phones do it by allowing them to stay in touch with 1000 people in real time, all of whom are fake in some major way, the vast majority of whom are lying to her and borrowing to make themselves appear wealthy.

The end result is, women can't possibly appreciate a man.

For example, I took home $4080 last week. That's 48 hours at $85 per hour. It's more than 95% of people, and it took 20 years to get the skills to earn that much, but do you think that would impress even a 21 year old girl? Even though the busboys they dumpster dive with make $200 a week? Listening to them speak and they'll say things like "When I'm rich someday and own my own law firm and have maids and butlers..." and here they are in Community College.

Meanwhile, a lot of guys making what I make max out their credit so they have a huge house and Ferrari, but are up to their eyeballs in debt. We must compete with these clowns. Try having no debt and receiving no Government handouts and you'll appear to live quite modestly, no matter how much you make.

And for the record, full time (40 hours per week) strippers make an average of $50,000 per year ($25 per hour). The top 10% make $60,000 ($30 per hour). The top 1% make $70,000 ($35 per hour). They can never make much more than that. Other women normalize that market. So they take home about $750 - $1000 per week. The problem is, in their minds they make $300 an hour.

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You are bitter.Looks and youth is worth much more than money.You talk like beta boy demanding love and attention for money aka Eliot Roger.You are older 44 old dude and you want to compete with 20 olds,get real.

Men keep trying to fūck attention *****es because the attention *****es are the bombshells we want to be fūcking. And if your game is tight, why not try and lay? The problem is these guys don't understand the fundamentals of game. If you SMV is decent, and you understand social dynamics at least a Lil bit fūcking these girls shouldn't be a problem. Just don't get attatched.

dont know about odds but i can bend spoons

the talk about the corruption of women by attention is very spot on and interesting.

attention boosting ego and inhibiting empathy, power corrupts, this statement is solid.

i used to read a lot of spiritual books among others, and the good ones explained how attention is actually the ultimate power. giving our focus to something endows it with the most power in the universe, because our attention literally creates the universe. it is god in a way. learning to focus it properly is the key to transcendence.

and since absolute power corrupts absolutely, its no surprise how we phuck these women up. make no mistake, we, the attention givers, do this. we are the gods lol, intriguing sh it for sure.

i smash attention *****s relatively regularly, but obv ofc only works IRL

bigneil said:

There are no simply attractive women left in America who have not been corrupted to the core with TV and cell phones. TV does it by showing them lots of examples of rich, handsome men who do anything for women. Their cell phones do it by allowing them to stay in touch with 1000 people in real time, all of whom are fake in some major way, the vast majority of whom are lying to her and borrowing to make themselves appear wealthy.

The end result is, women can't possibly appreciate a man.

For example, I took home $4080 last week. That's 48 hours at $85 per hour. It's more than 95% of people, and it took 20 years to get the skills to earn that much, but do you think that would impress even a 21 year old girl? Even though the busboys they dumpster dive with make $200 a week? Listening to them speak and they'll say things like "When I'm rich someday and own my own law firm and have maids and butlers..." and here they are in Community College.

Meanwhile, a lot of guys making what I make max out their credit so they have a huge house and Ferrari, but are up to their eyeballs in debt. We must compete with these clowns. Try having no debt and receiving no Government handouts and you'll appear to live quite modestly, no matter how much you make.

And for the record, full time (40 hours per week) strippers make an average of $50,000 per year ($25 per hour). The top 10% make $60,000 ($30 per hour). The top 1% make $70,000 ($35 per hour). They can never make much more than that. Other women normalize that market. So they take home about $750 - $1000 per week. The problem is, in their minds they make $300 an hour.

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Well you been in the stripper market long enough to know that they overestimate their earnings by using their very top night as their base pay per day. When many days they get less than $50 for the entire night.

Alexandar said:

dont know about odds but i can bend spoons

the talk about the corruption of women by attention is very spot on and interesting.

attention boosting ego and inhibiting empathy, power corrupts, this statement is solid.

i used to read a lot of spiritual books among others, and the good ones explained how attention is actually the ultimate power. giving our focus to something endows it with the most power in the universe, because our attention literally creates the universe. it is god in a way. learning to focus it properly is the key to transcendence.

and since absolute power corrupts absolutely, its no surprise how we phuck these women up. make no mistake, we, the attention givers, do this. we are the gods lol, intriguing sh it for sure.

i smash attention *****s relatively regularly, but obv ofc only works IRL

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Many of 'aplha males' who actually are loosers get confidence from attention they receive from women instead of life achievments.

Futurolog Mark Manson writtes :
IN THE FUTURE, OUR ATTENTION WILL BE SOLD

http://markmanson.net/attention#footnote-1?NV:.xhcinb:IitZ

I read somewhere on internet this gold:

"Attention is like pvssy, any time you give woman attention you give her pvssy, even most golden pvssy gets boring if it is given on plate , imagine your gf would give you pvssy or BJ several times per day,it would get boring very quickly"

By giving woman too much attention you tip the power game in her direction and you LOSE no matter what.You must give her to 'taste' and make her beg for more.

JohnyTheArrow said:

Many of 'aplha males' who actually are loosers get confidence from attention they receive from women instead of life achievments.

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that is so solid. im guilty sometimes (often) of being like them and its sad.

It is well known fact women are turned on by 'aloofness'.I believe it is not aloofness they are being attracted to but the resistance.They want to grab power, they want YOUR attention, they want it ALL, and you DARE to not give it to them.You tease them.You annoy them.YOU CHALLENGE THEM and invite to fight for the power.That's ... exciting.

yea its exciting and fun, for everyone, and who doesnt wana have fun and enjoy an exciting time. thats why guys should do this to have fun, which is a lot more valuable than pus sy, and makes the attainment of that pus sy, coincidentally, much more effective.

magic tricks function on attention, by divurging it. they cant hide from it, their only hope is divurgence. if they dont do this properly, they are exposed.

coincidentally, real magic functions on attention too, if you believe in it. its achieved by endulging in it, through intent and focus.

women, and people, subconsciously feel that power, and like you said, try to grab it from you. succeeding in this is like succeeding in getting someone in the ancient world to tell you their name (even demons) you gain absolute power over the entity.

blaming women for indulging in and being corrupted by OUR attention is like blaming a starving animal for eating our dinner that we placed infront of it. It never had a chance.

whats the excitement in bowing on your knees to an entity (women)? especially when they did Nothing to warrant this submissiveness.

but even if they had fought you and won for it, you should still never bow down. might as well fast track it to the grave.

we have lost this basic feeling of honour that almost all people inherently possessed in the ancient world, and its so phucking sad.

better to die on your feet, than live on your knees.

JohnyTheArrow said:

You are bitter.Looks and youth is worth much more than money.You talk like beta boy demanding love and attention for money aka Eliot Roger.You are older 44 old dude and you want to compete with 20 olds,get real.

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I don't agree. Looks and youth is not worth ****, it's icing on the cake, the wrapping on the candy. And it does not pay the bills.

These may be some immature bimbo's for the rest of their lives who never create anything productive, and we are supposed to bend, cater and over value these wh0res?

I don't think BigNeil is in a competition at all with the 30 years olds, because he does have a lot going for him. It's just the women he goes after are trouble. His defence is most hot girls run similar games, except they are not in the strip club. And he is mostly true!

My thing is why waste time on getting good at ****ing with women who are a financial and resource drain? Why can't we be boning business women, lawyers, doctors, politicians. Women of worth and value much more than their looks.

Someone who can talk at your cranium and make you better, dammit!

You see what I'm saying. These young wh0res Bigneil ****s with don't have much going on but their looks, he can talk at their cranium and make them better but they cannot make him better at all. So that's where the worth is.

Hey bigneil or anyone else. How much do escorts make?

bigneil said:

And for the record, full time (40 hours per week) strippers make an average of $50,000 per year ($25 per hour). The top 10% make $60,000 ($30 per hour). The top 1% make $70,000 ($35 per hour). They can never make much more than that. Other women normalize that market. So they take home about $750 - $1000 per week. The problem is, in their minds they make $300 an hour.

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mangotot said:

Hey bigneil or anyone else. How much do escorts make?

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I just want to say that strippers are usually escorts too.

DaddyLongShanks said:

I don't agree. Looks and youth is not worth ****, it's icing on the cake, the wrapping on the candy. And it does not pay the bills.

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Old farts in beta male rage pissed money means shyt.Do you want your money something for 20 old girl ? Move to Philipines.Nobody gives shyt about bills, bigneil must take Cialis or Viagra while 20 year old stud is pumped with testosterone and energy, beat that.You are wrinkled with ugly skin and most probably health problems, in 5 years he is 50 years old, no wonder he is depressed and pissed.

Now,you and bigneil dont derail the thread.My best advice is for such guys is move the fvck with your 'bills' where it matters - Philipines ? Peru ? Thailand ? And enjoy life instead beating on the bush.

JohnyTheArrow said:

You are bitter.Looks and youth is worth much more than money.You talk like beta boy demanding love and attention for money aka Eliot Roger.You are older 44 old dude and you want to compete with 20 olds,get real.

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And you keep your age secret? Until you can take me in a fight, I'm not old. Remember that. In the meantime I'll keep doing girls your (presumed) age, by any means necessary. And bring me those tacos already.

For men, youth and money are exactly interchangeable. The exchange rate is measured in US Dollars. And age 50 is the peak of a man's Power, on average.

mangotot in general escorts make slightly more per hour than strippers, otherwise nobody could talk them out of the club. IMO it's much better to take them to dinner than VIP. Your odds of seducing them in real life are exponentially higher, and you gain experience and see their real self. First try for the barmaids though.

JohnyTheArrow said:

It is well known fact women are turned on by 'aloofness'.I believe it is not aloofness they are being attracted to but the resistance.They want to grab power, they want YOUR attention, they want it ALL, and you DARE to not give it to them.You tease them.You annoy them.YOU CHALLENGE THEM and invite to fight for the power.That's ... exciting.

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This is why I don't waste my time now a days "Chasing" woman, You'll see me chasing money, you'll see me chasing my next trip to another state, etc

To many woman are corrupted, all these POF/Tinder proof this case for example because you have woman online acting foul for attention

I know a gamer who is good at smashing AW's. but he never has gas money, is always broke etc.

Solomon said:

I know a gamer who is good at smashing AW's. but he never has gas money, is always broke etc.

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lol, i cant remember meeting you, must be the weed

i just make fun of them, bust their balls and tell them precisely how ill phuck their brains out, seems to work

and its so rewarding to nail a bit ch who has 100 betas fantasizing about her, but only cuz im slightly psychologically damaged

im hardpressed to remember one of them who was a good lay