Desdinova
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If there's one thing I've been using the forum for lately, it's to think out loud with regards to the way society functions and fails. So here's another one...
As our world still highly caters to the rights and pleas of women, there is one large, thriving loophole that demonstrates that society isn't completely doomed to plunging into a world run by woman leaders. That loophole is The Bible.
And the forum members scream, "OH FVCK OFF. Desdinova is going to push religion on us. He should be banned!"
Before I get into the rest of this post, I'm going to explain where I stand with regards to religion, Christianity, the bible, and whatever related category you can think of...
First, I do not believe in a currently active God. If there WAS a currently active God, then he would have begun destroying those who promote and participate in encouraging gay reproduction. If you read the old testament, God actively destroyed those who did not worship him and did not condone to the rules of human reproduction.
I am however OPEN to the interpretation of what may or may not exist beyond us, whether it be a god, aliens, a force, evolution, or just not giving a 5hit. If what's beyond us isn't actively interacting with us, then there's no real point in worrying about it nor it's existence.
Second, I do not believe that current organized religion is healthy nor beneficial. Religion is basically corporate businesses that benefit from being tax-free.
However, I DO believe that The Bible is a useful book, even though it may be layered with fiction and over-exaggeration. The problem I have with The Bible is that I was exposed to years of religious indoctrination and have a built-in psychological ability to automatically ignore the words and the sound of bible verses being quoted. Is this a good thing? I haven't decided yet.
So how is The Bible a loophole? Well for starters, Christianity is still very active in today's society. Christianity is based on the bible. However, organized religion has added layers of crap to the bible by interpreting it. We have the rapture, dates for Armageddon, hellfire, heaven, and even profit. Add the idea that much of the meaning was likely lost when it was translated into English, and you've got a pretty deluded idea of what the bible is all about.
So without adding layers of crap, let's read some Bible verses!
Colossians 3:18 - Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord.
Ephesians 5:23 - For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church
Genesis 2:24 - Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
1 Timothy 2:12 - But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
Song of Solomon 4:5-6 - Your breasts are perfect; they are twin deer feeding among lilies. I will hasten to those hills sprinkled with sweet perfume and stay there till sunrise.
Leviticus 15:19 - When a woman has her regular flow of blood, the impurity of her monthly period will last seven days, and anyone who touches her will be unclean till evening.
This 5hit does NOT fly in a feminized world, but here we are with both Christianity and Feminism thriving well. I believe that "modern religions" prefer to avoid the discussion of these kinds of bible verses, and when they ARE discussed, they get a layer of bull5hit added to it such as "He didn't mean literally, he meant it in a spiritual sense!"
Bull5hit.
The Bible taken as-is is a pretty good example at how men and women should function in a healthy, thriving society.
So how can we use this currently highly-respected book to fix the 5hit hole that society is currently in with a feminist society?
We'd need to tackle it at the very place where feminism and social-conditioning happen... In public schools. We would need public schools that are a bit more bible-centric. Now, I'm not talking about the current Christian schools in existence because they have the layer of religious bull5hit added to them along with the promotion of life-long commitment to religion. I'm talking about using it as a tool to show how the human race functions and reproduces, and how gender roles actually BENEFIT the world.
The schools would also NOT promote continued attendance in Churches. There wouldn't be a need for that. By the time boys are 18 and girls are 23, they will have learned what they need to carry on and procreate to the benefit of humankind. In essence, they would GRADUATE from Christianity.
But that will never happen.
Religion cannot function on children who cannot donate money.
Schools reject the idea of unequal gender roles
The pharmaceutical industry cannot thrive without boys on Ritalin to make them more feminine behavior-wise.
So what made me start thinking about all of this?
My current GF was home-schooled, raised on a farm, and has a religious mother. She was NOT subjected to a high amount of social-conditioning while she was growing up. Instead, she was taught to do chores that promote self-sufficiency. She was also raised with the idea that women are care-givers while men are the supporters. She is most certainly in a minority. She's also fairly attractive on top of it . My only wish is that she remained on the farm until she was 23 years old, but given the majority of women who are NOT raised with these drastic exceptions, I won't complain.
Without incorporating religious bashing, I would love to hear some ideas and responses.
As our world still highly caters to the rights and pleas of women, there is one large, thriving loophole that demonstrates that society isn't completely doomed to plunging into a world run by woman leaders. That loophole is The Bible.
And the forum members scream, "OH FVCK OFF. Desdinova is going to push religion on us. He should be banned!"
Before I get into the rest of this post, I'm going to explain where I stand with regards to religion, Christianity, the bible, and whatever related category you can think of...
First, I do not believe in a currently active God. If there WAS a currently active God, then he would have begun destroying those who promote and participate in encouraging gay reproduction. If you read the old testament, God actively destroyed those who did not worship him and did not condone to the rules of human reproduction.
I am however OPEN to the interpretation of what may or may not exist beyond us, whether it be a god, aliens, a force, evolution, or just not giving a 5hit. If what's beyond us isn't actively interacting with us, then there's no real point in worrying about it nor it's existence.
Second, I do not believe that current organized religion is healthy nor beneficial. Religion is basically corporate businesses that benefit from being tax-free.
However, I DO believe that The Bible is a useful book, even though it may be layered with fiction and over-exaggeration. The problem I have with The Bible is that I was exposed to years of religious indoctrination and have a built-in psychological ability to automatically ignore the words and the sound of bible verses being quoted. Is this a good thing? I haven't decided yet.
So how is The Bible a loophole? Well for starters, Christianity is still very active in today's society. Christianity is based on the bible. However, organized religion has added layers of crap to the bible by interpreting it. We have the rapture, dates for Armageddon, hellfire, heaven, and even profit. Add the idea that much of the meaning was likely lost when it was translated into English, and you've got a pretty deluded idea of what the bible is all about.
So without adding layers of crap, let's read some Bible verses!
Colossians 3:18 - Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord.
Ephesians 5:23 - For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church
Genesis 2:24 - Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
1 Timothy 2:12 - But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
Song of Solomon 4:5-6 - Your breasts are perfect; they are twin deer feeding among lilies. I will hasten to those hills sprinkled with sweet perfume and stay there till sunrise.
Leviticus 15:19 - When a woman has her regular flow of blood, the impurity of her monthly period will last seven days, and anyone who touches her will be unclean till evening.
This 5hit does NOT fly in a feminized world, but here we are with both Christianity and Feminism thriving well. I believe that "modern religions" prefer to avoid the discussion of these kinds of bible verses, and when they ARE discussed, they get a layer of bull5hit added to it such as "He didn't mean literally, he meant it in a spiritual sense!"
Bull5hit.
The Bible taken as-is is a pretty good example at how men and women should function in a healthy, thriving society.
So how can we use this currently highly-respected book to fix the 5hit hole that society is currently in with a feminist society?
We'd need to tackle it at the very place where feminism and social-conditioning happen... In public schools. We would need public schools that are a bit more bible-centric. Now, I'm not talking about the current Christian schools in existence because they have the layer of religious bull5hit added to them along with the promotion of life-long commitment to religion. I'm talking about using it as a tool to show how the human race functions and reproduces, and how gender roles actually BENEFIT the world.
The schools would also NOT promote continued attendance in Churches. There wouldn't be a need for that. By the time boys are 18 and girls are 23, they will have learned what they need to carry on and procreate to the benefit of humankind. In essence, they would GRADUATE from Christianity.
But that will never happen.
Religion cannot function on children who cannot donate money.
Schools reject the idea of unequal gender roles
The pharmaceutical industry cannot thrive without boys on Ritalin to make them more feminine behavior-wise.
So what made me start thinking about all of this?
My current GF was home-schooled, raised on a farm, and has a religious mother. She was NOT subjected to a high amount of social-conditioning while she was growing up. Instead, she was taught to do chores that promote self-sufficiency. She was also raised with the idea that women are care-givers while men are the supporters. She is most certainly in a minority. She's also fairly attractive on top of it . My only wish is that she remained on the farm until she was 23 years old, but given the majority of women who are NOT raised with these drastic exceptions, I won't complain.
Without incorporating religious bashing, I would love to hear some ideas and responses.