massage

What does everyone think of massage parlors? A friend of mine (really, it's not me) raves about them. The reason being that you can get off without having to deal with any of the bullsh!t. Though he says it can get expensive.

I personally wouldn't do this because of disease and cops. Though his argument is compelling.

Any thoughts?

jimjam said:

disease and cops.

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This is what I think about them too.

If you aren't old, ugly, or married there is no reason to patronize massage parlors or prostitutes. And if you are ugly work on your body and style and if you are married shame on you.

So unless you're old and an arrest or disease doesn't mean as much then stay away.

It's definitely a choice every man has to make for himself.

Myself personally, I've been patronizing massage parlors and strip clubs since I was 19. In los angeles, most strippers will provide extras in the VIP room for a tip and massage parlors are practically on every street corner.

Here's my experience:

Pros:

* Easy, effortless, stress free access to sex.
* I can enjoy a variety of different women depending on my mood
* It makes me less sexually frustrated around regular women in my daily life
* It makes me less stressed out about trying to pick up women in my daily life
* It allows me to focus on work instead of sex or picking up women


Cons:

* It gets expensive. A massage session typically costs $40 for 30 minutes and then you have to tip at least a benjamin if you want to full play, so that's $140 for 30 minutes of play time.

* Cops will periodically raid these places. I've heard stories of undercover cops taking down license plates and keeping profiles of massage parlor patrons.

* You might end up being addicted to these places and using them as a crutch and you social game will decline over time.


In my younger years I went a little overboard visiting MP's and strip clubs and I easiily blew about $2k each month.

But now, I've learned to control it and limit my vists to about 2 times a month and spending maybe $500 - $600 per month on play time.

I do believe that visiting these places have allowed me to be more comfortable around women in my regular day life because now I see women as just human beings instead of putting them on pedestals like they're angelic goddesses or some sh!t (that's an AFC move)....

But again, it's a choice each man must make for himself.

These women you visit will think you are a loser. Well their opinion does not matter but if you ask me, visiting hookers is a no no. It will leave you feel $hitty afterwards. If you like 50+ and want to bang a 20 year old then by all means go for it. Otherwise don't do it.

mangotot said:

These women you visit will think you are a loser.

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Bro, with respect, caring about what a woman thinks is the basis of AFC behavior.

I honestly pose the question: why would a man be a loser for paying for sex?

The usual answer people give is that the man doesn't have enough "game" to pick up women in regular life. But these people also define game as being suave and taking women out and wining and dining them.... this is actually a woman's definition of game, and as we know, women will distort and manipulate the definition of game in whatever way benefits them... in this particular case, it's to put them on a pedestal.

The_flying_dutchman said:

I honestly pose the question: why would a man be a loser for paying for sex?

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A man is not a loser for paying for $ex. A man is free to do as his wishes. I would also assume not all service providers would look at the men as "losers", I am sure some are extremely understanding and decent. But I beg the question, you are on this forum learning how to be a ladies man so what are you doing paying for it? I read in some quarters that if a dude is lacking in experience it helps with the game development. But one size or answer does not fit all, people should just what they think is right.

jimjam said:

What does everyone think of massage parlors? A friend of mine (really, it's not me) raves about them. The reason being that you can get off without having to deal with any of the bullsh!t. Though he says it can get expensive.

I personally wouldn't do this because of disease and cops. Though his argument is compelling.

Any thoughts?

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I agree with the disease and cops thing.

But, depending on where you work, you could lose your job if the local police blotter section of the newspaper mentions that you were caught with a prostie at a massage parlor. The feminists in your HR department will have a field day with that if word gets to your workplace.

Mike32ct said:

I agree with the disease and cops thing.

But, depending on where you work, you could lose your job if the local police blotter section of the newspaper mentions that you were caught with a prostie at a massage parlor. The feminists in your HR department will have a field day with that if word gets to your workplace.

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True, in certain states if you get caught soliciting prostitution you may be required to register as a sex offender. No doubt this is a risk of the game and so every man has to weigh the pros and cons for himself.

I haven't done this in a long while, and when I have done it it's just the HJ, nothing more. It's like a cherry on top of a sundae.

I don't think they are a big deal. They're okay but nothing special. In NYC they're cheap.

However I'm more wary of cops these days so I don't really go. I'd rather drop the cash on new clothes.

Hookers IMHO r bad for yr game because its too easy and dating won't b like that. Wen I m taking a break I do go get legit thai massages.

Pros
Girls r quite happy to chat so it's practice
If I m on a break I ll b lifting and with my regular sports it helps recovery
Gives u some female touch which I think is important for male psych health

Don't know how it works in massage parlors but escorts are legal as long as you make no mention of paying for sex. Technically, you are paying for the company and then any extracurricular activities "just happened" between two consenting adults. Cops will try sting operations where they ask what what you want. If you explicitly ask for anything sexual, you're busted.

If I had the money to blow, I'd probably give those high end escorts a go. These are the types of pro that pro athletes, actors, politicians and business moguls patronize. Obviously it's a bad idea to make it a habit, but every now and then it would be nice to fvck a legit 9 or 10 without all the effort required to game her. Most of the folks who can afford this high level escort already have their sh*t together.

IF you don't think your "paying for sex" when you take her out for dinner and drinks? IF I don't think I paid for sex when I wrote a $200k check for property settlement in the DIVORCE? Well, then I guess we can look down on the monetary aspect of prostitution.

IF you aren't worried about diseases with the bar skanks you take home who have been with over 60 men? Then I guess you can look down at them for the possibility for disease.....

It's PROBABLY the most HONEST transaction between men and women.... the ONLY reason it's a problem, is it's illegal.... and some of us have to worry about our reputations

so one day i was living in south florida, sarasota, and i get massages. I always have. i'm bored. there is this kinda shady looking "massage" place not far from where i was staying. mind you i'm from arkansas they don't have that type of **** down there so i really do not know any better.

so i go in there, this pretty hot asian woman is in there. i'm thinking i'm finna get a real massage lol. she told me price was 200 i was like okay that's kinda high but whatever you're pretty hot.

so i get the massage and i was like this is a bull**** massage. then she starts rubbing on my **** and i'm like OH LOL. OKAY. well **** it i'm here now lol


probably wouldn't do it again though

Never argue with my seniors Respect Sodbuster I he learnt a lot from your posts. I agree. As my mate says - u don't pay for the f@#$ - u pay for them to go away afterwards.

I was just saying if u weren't also working on your game it could do your head in.

If you use them for validation it could screw your head up. I like how the one guy mentions he uses it to supplement his game and to keep him from putting babes in regular life on a pedestal.

If you rely upon this it could hurt your game and social outside of there, and also part of many hookers game is looking down upon her client, so it won't be good for your esteem.