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I came across this today and, as guys here, I wanted to get some feedback on what everyone thinks about it. After reading this news brief and watching the video, I disagree with the entire premise of what Rashida Jones has put together but I need to really organize my thoughts in order properly explain why. I'll post those in a reply to this thread later.

Take a look:
http://news.yahoo.com/rashida-jones...-documentary-with-katie-couric-203552949.html
 

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Women will always be the sex objects. Feminists blame men for this, but women themselves do it. Perhaps it's their nature.

They cry for female empowerment, women owning their own body and all that. It's all fine, but the type of occupations that follow end up being either strippers or porn stars. The feminists are okay with that as long as the women are "independent". Why didn't they move on to something more respectable if they want empowerment? Why fight the war only to return back to who you were then, but this time it's "independent"?

Porn is becoming more and more desensitized. It was frowned upon, but now it's getting more and more accepted. I wouldn't be surprised if there is another civil rights movement for porn stars and how they shouldn't be "shamed", just like the fatties and gays are now. Then teenage girls doing porn right out of high school might become normalized, and men are pushed to be receptive to marrying women with porn history, just how marrying fatties and gays are applauded now.

Feminists movement are supposed to make women become more respected, but unfortunately it is actually pushing things the opposite way.
 

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She is assuming that women don't have free will or agency.

No one is exploiting their "gullibility". In fact, these women are seeking out the porn producers and signing up to be filmed naked.

This is just more victim role playing.
 

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I finally got some time to write up my thoughts on this but the replies so far are pretty much in line with my own thinking.

First, no one, absolutely NO ONE, forces these young girls to do this stuff. They are offered money. They may think it's a modeling job, but lo and behold some guy named Rick with a 8" c*ck comes out from behind a curtain and the guy says "hey sweety, we'll throw in another couple hundred dollars if you'll have sex with Rick." "Ummm....ok" That's pretty much the extent of their decision-making. She can easily say "no, I can't do this" and then the casting agent will say, "OK sweety, well we're going to use someone else then" but of course she won't get paid. Girls want $$$ just like anyone else.

Second, Rashida's film focuses on the porn industry in the U.S. Key words here: in the U.S. Ok, how about looking at girls who are also 18 yet live in countries like Switzerland, Germany or the Netherlands. Girls at this age can legally start hooking. Is this an absolute disaster creating a massive hole and gap in their society which relies about the gullibility of young girls? Frankly I'd consider prostitution a step lower than porn but I consider welfare leeches much, much lower than prostitutes even. Why is it that in one nation, the U.S., this is a terrible situation for young women because a certain industry pays them money for sexual services, yet in other european countries (the vast majority of which are far more liberal than the U.S.), legal prostitution seems to be no problem for women the same age?

Third, a quick and simple one, Rashida obviously skips over the FACT that all girls in porn films in the U.S. are legal adults. Read that again: they are LEGAL ADULTS. They can enter into contracts and receive compensation. Is Rashida suggesting that girls who are 18 years old simply cannot make adult decisions? Should we push that age up to, what, 25 now?

Fourth, and I really want to focus on this one, skip forward in the video where there's a brief segment with one young girl sitting down with her fat heiffer of a mom and it shows a moment between them where she's asking about her "work". The girl has done something like 30 different scenes, iirc, and the mom asks stuff like how long she's been doing this, if she's been using birth control, etc. Do you notice the tone and overall demeanor of the mom? This is a mom who simply doesn't care. Oh she'll put in minimal effort it appears, and I'm sure she's trying to make it look good for the camera, but the FACT remains that in order for a young girl to get where she is at 18 years old to decide "Hmmm...I like d*ck, so I figure I'll get paid for it and do porn", there's already some psychological and emotional damage of some kind going on there. I didn't see any dad in the picture; perhaps he isn't in the picture at all or is equally worthless. This whole argument I'm touching on here goes hand-in-hand with much of the sage advice members here on SS and other red pill forums dish out - and that is that if you're looking for a plate, these girls will do just fine. If you're looking for a serious LTR, get them out of your life ASAP. ...... oh and the girl doing 30 scenes? If she didn't feel ok with it or felt she was being abused, wouldn't you stop after the first one? Hmmmmm

Fifth and the last comment I can think of. Remember, girls like sex too. Young teenage girls like d*ck just about any way they can get it. Porn industry offers them $$ and gives them d*ck so for the majority of these girls who are seriously thinking about it, this is a big win for them.


Oh, one last thing too. What sharkbeat posted above is truth. Go back and re-read it; what he posted is absolutely prophetic and you watch what happens in the next 10 years in this country. A perfect example of how Roosh recently went on Dr. Oz and was shamed because he wasn't accepting of fat heiffers for suitable relationship material. This same crap will start working its way into trying to be accepted: former porn "stars" who are used up and tossed away and now desire a "nice guy" for a LTR and how men should accept them and be happy.

Why will it happen in this country?

Hell look at all the free porn sites on the web these days and how much amateur porn is out there. What will happen is that all the young girls who appeared on these amateur films, more and more will realize their opportunities in life for things like a better job or trying to find a decent guy become limited. They'll then start crying about how it's unfair and another episode similar to Dr. Oz will show up with women who are probably 30-35 crying about how when they were 18 they agreed to get gangbanged on camera and now their life is all screwed up.


In summary, Rashida's whole documentary places all the blame on the "porn industry" as a whole yet completely neglects to point out that no one held a gun to these girls' heads and told them to get naked on camera.
 

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"But her latest project, a documentary called “Hot Girls Wanted,” explores the amateur porn industry, which she says rakes in gobs of cash by exploiting the gullibility of young women who thirst for fame and fortune."

http://assets-s3.usmagazine.com/upl...store/promo/1318424597_rashida-jones-vert.jpg

"Parks and Recreation's Rashida Jones tells the November issue of Playboy that she yearns to "do something naked somewhere" if she weren't a recognizable actress."

http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity...naked-through-disneyland-apple-store-20111210

Hypocrite.
 

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BetterCallSaul said:
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In summary, Rashida's whole documentary places all the blame on the "porn industry" as a whole yet completely neglects to point out that no one held a gun to these girls' heads and told them to get naked on camera.
Yep, she's just another one of those types of people who don't believe in the premise of personal accountability. If these women want to blame someone other than themselves, perhaps they should look at their parents. Chris Rock said after having his first daughter said that his primary job as a father was to keep her off of the [stripper] pole. This aligns with keeping your daughters out from in front of the camera by having more self worth than to want to make a fast money doing porn.


If we go along with Rashida's premise, women are unable to successfully make important decisions on their own. If that is the case, they should consider avoiding people such as various types of salesmen, teachers/instructors, realtors, policemen, doctors, psychiatrist, grocers, bartenders and even their boyfriends or husbands. If that's the case, staying home in the kitchen would be the safest place for these women who are unable to make choices on their own volition.
 

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I don't know, but Rashida Jones is pretty smoking hot herself. Like Amy Poehler said about her character on Parks and Recreation, "No one can match your hybrid ethnic energy, Anne".
 
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