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Pissing in public? You could be a sex offender

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Thought I'd make you guys aware of some of the draconian laws on the books that can get you on sex offender registries in the "land of the free."

In 12 states, getting busted for pissing in public is a sufficient offense.

(This article is from one of the most liberal/feminist sites out there, but in this case it's making a valuable point.)

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_...s_on_statutory_rape_public_urination_and.html
 

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Laws like these are crimes against nature and humanity.
 
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You do realize that the age of consent in those states you mentioned are UNDER 18, right?

http://www.ageofconsent.us/

I may be drunk most of the time when I p!ss in public, but I know that it's wrong. If I was a father, I would not want my kids to witness Wangathon as I make a pit stop at McDonalds.

If we continually enforce 'land of the free' you do, what the fvck is stopping me from verbally harassing the gas station attendant for his register?

Draw limits, unless you want mobsters looting the sh!t out of everyone. Welcome to Public Policy 101. You can't appease everyone. That's an introduction, thanks and exit door is to your left.
 

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My friend went streaking and got a felony indecency in public. 15 years on the sex offender registry, 5 years probation. Had to move, lost his job, cant visit my house(cause I live within a mile of a school), cant own an xbox, playstation or Wii(they dont want him to have access to porn), cant have internet on his phone, has a 4pm curfew, has to install software on his computer, they deleted his facebook.
Prudes, afraid of the human body. The most natural thing to mankind there is.
 

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Special EDy said:
My friend went streaking and got a felony indecency in public. 15 years on the sex offender registry, 5 years probation. Had to move, lost his job, cant visit my house(cause I live within a mile of a school), cant own an xbox, playstation or Wii(they dont want him to have access to porn), cant have internet on his phone, has a 4pm curfew, has to install software on his computer, they deleted his facebook.
Prudes, afraid of the human body. The most natural thing to mankind there is.
Reminds me of this:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...stry-STREAKING-high-school-football-game.html

People in charge are too stupid to make a judgement call. Everything is dealt in absolutes. There's no grey area. There needs to be grey, it's not always black and white.
 
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I'm not going to debate, but when your state has a lower age of consent, don't you think that something has to give? Don't you understand that the consequences will be much harsher for violations?

'Hey folks, we've loosen out laws so you can have more freedom than other gay states like California. Only thing is that you must abide by our laws. We will give you a harsher punishment if you don't play by our rules. Fair trade?

Peaks&Valleys said:
Reminds me of this:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2452030/Christian-Adamek-Boy-15-kills-facing-expulsion-sex-offender-registry-STREAKING-high-school-football-game.html

People in charge are too stupid to make a judgement call. Everything is dealt in absolutes. There's no grey area. There needs to be grey, it's not always black and white.
People in charge are not stupid, they do not deal with absolutes. They are lenient on laws compared to other states....Let's raise the drinking age to 30 and see how people respond. When you have more freedom, you have more consequences. Equilibrium fvcker - do you understand life?
 

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BeDJ said:
I'm not going to debate, but when your state has a lower age of consent, don't you think that something has to give? Don't you understand that the consequences will be much harsher for violations?

'Hey folks, we've loosen out laws so you can have more freedom than other gay states like California. Only thing is that you must abide by our laws. We will give you a harsher punishment if you don't play by our rules. Fair trade?



People in charge are not stupid, they do not deal with absolutes. They are lenient on laws compared to other states....Let's raise the drinking age to 30 and see how people respond. When you have more freedom, you have more consequences. Equilibrium fvcker - do you understand life?
So how does this relate to anything in the article I posted? Or, for that matter, how does it relate to anything in my post? What do you mean by "lenient"? Where in the fvck do you see lenience?

I don't understand the relation to your statements and my post.
 
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So how does this relate to anything in the article I posted? Or, for that matter, how does it relate to anything in my post? What do you mean by "lenient"? Where in the fvck do you see lenience??
He. Fvcking. Streaked.

Unless he was SEVERELY mentally retarded, he would know that it was a wrong behavior. If I were to streak at right now, would you be crying for my sake? Fvck no, there is right and there is wrong. Or, if I were to do it on Alcohol and Ectasy, would that excuse me, because I didn't know any better? Absolutely not. If I were to do it during high school on my 18th birthday, would that excuse me for doing so?

There is right and there is wrong. Unless he is mentally handicapped, you have to deal with the consequences of your actions.
 

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Streaking was a fad when I was growing up in the 70s. It was considered a harmless prank. Yeah, some people got arrested, but they weren't put on the sex offender registry for it.

Ray Stevens had a number one novelty song about the fad called "The Streak". There was a streaker on the Oscars and on the Tonight Show. There were streakers during baseball games. As far as I remember, no one was emotionally scarred over it. It's the human body, get over it. Funny thing is, with the internet, people have more access to viewing naked people now more than ever. And yet, they seem to be more uptight about it.

The USA is the biggest police state in the entire world.
 

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Want a society that doesn't have these "draconian" laws?

Take a trip to India. Nothing against public urination. Hey in fact several hundred million do it in their public rivers. The entire rural part of the country place smells and looks like a garbage dump too.

Many people don't realize but the standards set for American and Western Europe public behavior are really high for a reason. There are many countries out there with "harmless fads" but these types of things cease being harmless with it is OK'd by society to do them.

The fact that they are put on a sexual offender list is the problem here. The fact that it is illegal and that they should be fined/arrested is not. They very well should be. Sorry just cause you live in my neighborhood doesn't mean you have the right to piss all over it or streak through it, or do whatever your heart desires.

Society is in very nature, a tradeoff. We put aside some of our own desires in exchange for living peacefully, in a stable society, where arguments are not solved by murdering each other, but by (however flawed) courts of law.

I think not peeing/****ting in public or streaking through the neighborhood it is a small tradeoff. There are plenty of countries that don't care if you do this, but I guarantee most of you would not want to live in those countries.
 

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zekko said:
Streaking was a fad when I was growing up in the 70s. It was considered a harmless prank. Yeah, some people got arrested, but they weren't put on the sex offender registry for it.

Ray Stevens had a number one novelty song about the fad called "The Streak". There was a streaker on the Oscars and on the Tonight Show. There were streakers during baseball games. As far as I remember, no one was emotionally scarred over it. It's the human body, get over it. Funny thing is, with the internet, people have more access to viewing naked people now more than ever. And yet, they seem to be more uptight about it.

The USA is the biggest police state in the entire world.
Yeah really. People under 30 have been so brainwashed by modern feminism since early childhood that they defend the modern feminist police state as normal. They're too young to have experienced freedom and reasonable laws to realize it didn't result in anarchy. We now have police and feminism anarchy, downright scary for the future.
 

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BeDJ said:
You do realize that the age of consent in those states you mentioned are UNDER 18, right?

http://www.ageofconsent.us/

I may be drunk most of the time when I p!ss in public, but I know that it's wrong. If I was a father, I would not want my kids to witness Wangathon as I make a pit stop at McDonalds.

If we continually enforce 'land of the free' you do, what the fvck is stopping me from verbally harassing the gas station attendant for his register?

Draw limits, unless you want mobsters looting the sh!t out of everyone. Welcome to Public Policy 101. You can't appease everyone. That's an introduction, thanks and exit door is to your left.
Should there be a penalty if BOTH teenagers are underage and it's consensual? Which one is the "offender"? The age also varies state to state.

Pissing in public should be at worst a misdemeanor and a disorderly conduct citation, NOT registry on a "sex offenders" list. What's sexual about peeing (outside of freak fetishes)?

The greater point is this: States are arbitrarily adding "offenders" to these lists, which used to be for the bottom of the barrel offenders, i.e. rapists, pederasts, flashers, etc. Furthermore how many of these outdoor pissers that land on the registry do you think are women?

I'm not saying order shouldn't be maintained, but if you think being labeled a sex offender is commensurate with outdoor pissing, maybe you fall more on the authoritarian side of things. I'm more libertarian.
 

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zekko said:
Streaking was a fad when I was growing up in the 70s. It was considered a harmless prank. Yeah, some people got arrested, but they weren't put on the sex offender registry for it.

Ray Stevens had a number one novelty song about the fad called "The Streak". There was a streaker on the Oscars and on the Tonight Show. There were streakers during baseball games. As far as I remember, no one was emotionally scarred over it. It's the human body, get over it. Funny thing is, with the internet, people have more access to viewing naked people now more than ever. And yet, they seem to be more uptight about it.

The USA is the biggest police state in the entire world.
Yeah it's a classic formula: Pick a label that terrifies people and that people aren't apt to speak out against, and use it to install tighter and tighter laws in the name of "security." It's worked with Communism, terrorism, witchcraft, etc. Today with the feminist imperative running the show it's "sex offenders," which lately includes older men who like legal younger women, men who use inappropriate language around women, "creepy" men who hit on women, cat-callers, etc. Since pissing in public has been a misdemeanor for ages it was probably easy to convince lawmakers that wang out = potential rapist.

Next we'll have urinals in mens' rooms outlawed... Or no nudity in unisex baths.
 

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As bad as this looks, the reason they do it is that if they let streakers off, there goes all the flashers claiming they were "just streaking." That's the theory anyway. If the DA doesn't prosecute to the fullest including the sexual registry, then come election time, at least one dude they went light on will have killed or raped someone and the opposition combs like a PI for stuff like that. It's a bad gray area in the law of which there are many. I got caught peeing behind a dumpster in an alley at 2AM in college. Was charged with "obscene display in public" but got it reduced easily.

This is where the old common sense policing in communities is sorely missed. Now the police are completely bureaucratized and like a sick machine.

Also agree that things were different pre-gynocracy. State provided "safety" is an utter hoax, and as long as female voters keep buying into "big daddy gov," then this kind of thing won't change. I was in a DA's office several months ago and in a small county, they had a huge, long sex offender list on the wall. I asked the Asst DA what was up with that and they told me most of them were "divorce-related" where mama wants custody and uses a scorched earth lawyer. Others were like the streaker. Few were actually pervs or true sex offenders, almost none according to that DA. Oh and bogus media shows like Law and Order SVU together with all the DOZENS of "true crime" series running on cable don't help matters. Ever notice how half those murders and crimes on all those infinite crime shows took place in the 80s or even before? LOL.
 

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BeDJ said:
He. Fvcking. Streaked.

Unless he was SEVERELY mentally retarded, he would know that it was a wrong behavior. If I were to streak at right now, would you be crying for my sake? Fvck no, there is right and there is wrong. Or, if I were to do it on Alcohol and Ectasy, would that excuse me, because I didn't know any better? Absolutely not. If I were to do it during high school on my 18th birthday, would that excuse me for doing so?

There is right and there is wrong. Unless he is mentally handicapped, you have to deal with the consequences of your actions.
Your arguments are all over the place on this one, anyways, here's some good ol Will Ferrell for ya: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20g3QIUnOgY
 

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I used to play tennis with a local judge in the park. Whenever he needed to take a bathroom break, he would relieve himself on the nearest tree. The public restrooms were about 20 yards away. I always wondered how many people he sentenced for doing the same thing.
 

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Stagger Lee said:
Yeah really. People under 30 have been so brainwashed by modern feminism since early childhood that they defend the modern feminist police state as normal. They're too young to have experienced freedom and reasonable laws to realize it didn't result in anarchy. We now have police and feminism anarchy, downright scary for the future.
Stagger Lee said:
Laws like these are crimes against nature and humanity.
zekko said:
The USA is the biggest police state in the entire world.

What the hell is wrong with you people? I think some of you guys just like to spout off about anything calling it 'feminism' because you are against any law or what the government does. :yes:

If you're exposing your d1ck to women and children, of course you should be arrested and become an offender. Why would you think you shouldn't be?

If you were coming out of McDonald's with your kids, do you want to see some guy pissing by the side of your car or against a wall for your kids to see?

Do you want to smell the stink of dried piss all over the place? Go live in some Third World country if you want to live like a bunch of animals.

Now, if you were pissing in the bushes far away from anybody that's a different story. Nobody can see you and nobody can smell it.



How is the teenage sex ridiculous? The guy was 18 banging a 14 year old. Just because he is a "teenager" he still is an adult.




Times have changed and so have the laws. Back in the day, you could do a lot of things that you can no longer do now.

Before you could get in a bar fight and beat the sh1t out of the other guy. Nothing would happen to you. Now you will get arrested just for fighting in self defense.

Before you could playfully pinch a chick's ass. Now you will be charged with sexual harassment along with assualt and battery if the chick complains.

Disputes were settled with a duel, if you killed the other guy by shooting him, nothing would happen to you. Even our congressmen in the 1700's had duels to settle a disputes over political or personal matters.

In the 1800's out in the west, men used to trade the wife or kids for a house, land, a horse, or cattle. That was called bartering. Do that today and you will go to prison.

Same as with streaking and other things too. People abused it and laws were made to prevent it from happening with punishment, that's why we have them.

Not sure why you guys want to see dudes piss, streak, or flash themselves all over town. :nervous:


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Reminds me of this:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...stry-STREAKING-high-school-football-game.html

People in charge are too stupid to make a judgement call. Everything is dealt in absolutes. There's no grey area. There needs to be grey, it's not always black and white.
Why should there be a gray area? When you start having "gray areas" that's when you have too much red tape and problems within the legal system. They cut out "gray areas" just for that reason.

You would be the first one to complain about a "gray area" if you didn't like a decision regarding it. That's why they cut out "gray areas" because of too many problems that went with it.

Why should this be gray? The kid streaked in school. He's old enough to know better not to do that. Sh1t, even a 7 year old kid wouldn't do that. That's his fault for killing himself, you can't blame anybody for his actions but himself. Then you get a mushy article with people trying to defend his actions. What a damn joke.

They liked him, so they feel it's ok for him to do that with no punishment. If there's some other guy they didn't like or didn't know, they wouldn't give a sh1t if they threw the book at him. That's why they eliminated gray areas. People want the laws to suit themselves or their friends and the hell with everybody else.
 

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rascal99v said:
If you're exposing your d1ck to women and children, of course you should be arrested and become an offender. Why would you think you shouldn't be?
Who said anything about:
exposing your d1ck to women and children
Where do you see this? Making up stories again?


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If you were coming out of McDonald's with your kids, do you want to see some guy pissing by the side of your car or against a wall for your kids to see?
No, but is pissing on the side of a building exposing your ****? Does that person deserve to be put on the sex offender list, for OMG, taking a piss on the side of a wall??

Do you want to smell the stink of dried piss all over the place? Go live in some Third World country if you want to live like a bunch of animals.
Again, what does the smell of piss everywhere warrant putting people on the SEX OFFENDER list?

That's what we're talking about here by the way, in case you missed that part.

Now, if you were pissing in the bushes far away from anybody that's a different story. Nobody can see you and nobody can smell it.
What if someone was bird watching with binoculars and happened to see you pissing? SEX OFFENDER list for you!


Before you could get in a bar fight and beat the sh1t out of the other guy. Nothing would happen to you. Now you will get arrested just for fighting in self defense.
I beg to differ on this wide sweeping generalization. But whatever.


Same as with streaking and other things too. People abused it and laws were made to prevent it from happening with punishment, that's why we have them.
People abused streaking? Where....what?

Not sure why you guys want to see dudes piss, streak, or flash themselves all over town.
Who said anything about WANTING to see this. I just don't think most men are as scared as you are of seeing another dude handle the call of nature. OMG a guy pissing...OMG OMG.






Why should there be a gray area?
Because when people like you become cops and arrest someone for pissing behind a dumpster at 1 AM, there needs to be a Judge with BRAINS that will just fine the guy instead of putting him on a sex offender list


When you start having "gray areas" that's when you have too much red tape and problems within the legal system. They cut out "gray areas" just for that reason.
Right, so no one has to THINK anymore, or actually make a DECISION. Might as well have robots running the show.

Why should this be gray? The kid streaked in school.
Wrong again. He streaked on a football field. Nice try twisting words.

He's old enough to know better not to do that. Sh1t, even a 7 year old kid wouldn't do that.
That's the whole point of doing it, it was a prank. He was in high school. I'm sure you'd be one of the parents getting her panties in a bunch over it. OMG a Penis that I can't even see because he's so far away and he's running. But still there's a penis over there. OMG!

That's his fault for killing himself, you can't blame anybody for his actions but himself. Then you get a mushy article with people trying to defend his actions. What a damn joke.
Not sure why he killed himself. He was 15, and was thinking he was about to be put on the sex offender list for the rest of his life. Don't think he had much of a bright future.

They liked him, so they feel it's ok for him to do that with no punishment.
Who said that he could get away with NO PUNISHMENT? Where did you get from?

Why do you constantly make $hit up to support your arguments?

I will correct you once again, a punishment was deserved but not one so EXTREME. That's the whole point of this article. Can you make a point without twisting words and making up $hit?
 

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The last time I looked at the sex offender list, I noticed that a guy down the road fvcked an 8 y/o boy. That sick fvck needs to be on a list. I don't have kids, but if I did, then I would want that information. It's important, and it should be an accessible public record. But when we water down that record with worthless entries, it becomes less and less accessible.
 
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