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Dgwizdal

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I am a sales rep for a large electronics recycling company @ the age of 27. I have been there for 3 years. My first year, I killed it making 80k+. I did just under 3/4 of a million in sales not including the value of material on the back end.

Since then the e-waste market and "being green" has exploded in popularity and has become saturated with a million other recycler who have all of the same certifications and qualifications we do. However, they have a completely better offer as far as rebates and asset remarketing and revenue sharing goes for the value of the precious metals we refine on the commodities market. My boss refuses to change our outdated business model, is cheap as fvck, and wants us to be deceptive. He also has a million in cars in his driveway. My pockets have taken a big hit since then.

I can build all the rapport I want with he customer but when it comes down to price and our offer - we are blown out of the water to the point of insulting the client. My bosses response in layman's terms is "they are not the right deals" and wants me to find suckers. I know damn well what the markets and other companies offers are like and know he is full of sh*t. He only wants ridiculously huge profit margins and anything else he could give a sh*t about.

I would quit however I am emotionally involved with his family and the people here. He rents me Lamborghinis, gives me sox tickets, and dough to blow at the casino but I feel that all that is a ploy and a manipulative way to keep me around for his own agendas. I could continue to work harder and harder as a slave to find these "right deals" however I think that my talents would be useful elsewhere where we had a better offer to our clients.


BTW: No base salary, all commission, I have to pay my own employment taxes, no 401k, no benefits, nada. It doesn't cost him anything to keep me around except for a phone bill.

However the sky is the limit if you find these "right deals" but they are few and far between now that our pricing and offer is garbage. Guy I interned for was making 600k before market saturation, started losing customers, and then peaced.

At what point do you throw in the towel and chuck the deuces? It is always a guilt trip in the back of a salesman's mind that you could be working harder...


This has been the only job ive had since college...
 

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Dgwizdal said:
I would quit however I am emotionally involved with his family and the people here. He rents me Lamborghinis, gives me sox tickets, and dough to blow at the casino but I feel that all that is a ploy and a manipulative way to keep me around for his own agendas.
So what's more important to you? Going to the casino or making a living? Where do you see yourself in 5 years? Is renting hot cars and blowing money going to still be included in your lifestyle?

You already know what you have to do. I was going to call you weak but on second thought, I'm actually impressed that you are thinking about these things when most people would not.

I'd go somewhere with a little more job security and upward mobility. Don't be afraid to learn something new, any new employer will give you time to learn things. All they want to know is if you're train-able.
 

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speed dawg said:
So what's more important to you? Going to the casino or making a living? Where do you see yourself in 5 years? Is renting hot cars and blowing money going to still be included in your lifestyle?

You already know what you have to do. I was going to call you weak but on second thought, I'm actually impressed that you are thinking about these things when most people would not.

I'd go somewhere with a little more job security and upward mobility. Don't be afraid to learn something new, any new employer will give you time to learn things. All they want to know is if you're train-able.
Thinking about these things is exactly where I am in life. I am naturally a leader and would be great at managing a sales force or supervising linemen in an industrial type setting, Regional managing of branches of a large company, etc. I am a terrific salesman and motivator and a quick learner. I set out to be the best at anything I learn however but am conflicted as to where the most potential lies:

Working my way up the corporate ladder utilizing my skills which would be more stability

or:

Using my skills to slave away here where the potential is limitless.


I also read some requirements of job description on theladders (high income job opp website) and am under qualified in terms of the experience I am up against. The site lets you see other peoples experience that have applied. I know that 70% of it is the head on your shoulders...
 

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Dgwizdal said:
Working my way up the corporate ladder utilizing my skills which would be more stability

or:

Using my skills to slave away here where the potential is limitless.
You said it yourself, your boss won't change his biz model. To stay successful, you have to constantly redefine your business. My opinion. That's what would help me decide what to do. I like to be a part of something that I agree with and that is destined for success. Something I can get excited about. Don't waste your time f*cking off.

I would branch swing. Put out resumes at jobs where you think you'd fit in well. If you feel like you fit, try it out. The worst thing that can happen is that you fail. But at least you'll know that career path wasn't the one for you. Live and learn.

Good luck.
 
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