30 Year Old Virgin, Trying to Improve Himself, Need Help

Hey everybody. I'm currently working to get my life back on track.

I am 30 years old, broke, a virgin, and have never kissed a girl in my life. I'm a decent looking guy, but I have bad teeth that can be fixed easily with money.

I will be starting a business in about a year, so I'm not worried about the money problem.

What I'm trying to figure out is how to improve my social skills with women, while I get myself back on my feet. I feel no female will date me when I'm broke and live with my parents. I guess that's obvious.

But I still ask how I can talk to females while broke? I don't want to waste time. Also, I've lost contact with all my old friends.

King Mays said:

I don't want to waste time.

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That's your first problem. Solution: Waste as much time as you have to talk to women. Don't expect anything from them. Don't buy them flowers. Don't buy them drinks. Don't buy them dinner. Spend nothing on them but your time and words. Tease them, test their boundaries. Ask for phone number at the end to close the deal and gauge your performance. If she gives you a creeped-out look, you did REALLY poor. If she gives you a number, doesn't mean she's interested, it could be fake. But who cares. Try calling ONCE, if it's not a positive response, next. If it's a positive response, keep escalating until you get the lay. Rinse and repeat.

Simultaneously, work on your business, and fix your teeth.

sharkbeat said:

That's your first problem.

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I didn't mean it like that. What I meant was I don't want to put off talking to females while I get myself together.

Obviously reading self help books will help you, but for some reason it works for some and doesn't work for other, same book for some one can call it the best book ever read that changed my life , while another guy can say it was completely scam and useless .
at 30 be careful to not use things that only suitable for younger guys . I think in this age you need to have some accomplishment , work hard to make your business succeed , that will give you a big confidant boost beside you will not going to be viewed as a frailer .

how to improve my social skills with women

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I bet your social skills in general are not that good. learn how to talk with strangers and and same roles apply for women, try to talk with old people , they are more open and go to younger ones later . read some books of how to be social person

OP, you'd be surprised....my best flings cost me little to no money at all. You might as well start practicing talking to women now so you're better at it by the time you move out. Women will look past a lot if you show them you're confident and have something going for you - which you do.

Get on a plane to Thailand, China or Mexico.

How tall are you? I 'll bet that is the problem.

Scormus said:

How tall are you? I 'll bet that is the problem.

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I'm 5'8

Losing my hair, I have bad teeth, I'm getting fat (curse you xbox!!!), don't even use game anymore and I get hit on regularly. Hop a flight to China dude, stay at the 7 days INN in Nanjing and walk around meeting girls. Cost you about 15 to 18 bucks a night there. Guaranteed, you'll have at least one phone number for every 2 girls you approach.

If you are a black dude, go to the Philippines... holy fvck, black dudes clean house there. That or Japan and take the yellow cabs.

Dear LiveFree,
Nanjing a great place,but you have to admit without a sleeping dictionary,very difficult to get around in....Yes I know the Seven Days Inn,but $18 a night?best I did was about $60 at the University....So do you use the expats Bar in Shanghai Lu to find these Birds?I only met tarts in Nanjing,though if you are Tallish,blue eyes and fair haired the Women just drool over you!

LiveFreeX said:

Losing my hair, I have bad teeth, I'm getting fat (curse you xbox!!!), don't even use game anymore and I get hit on regularly. Hop a flight to China dude, stay at the 7 days INN in Nanjing and walk around meeting girls. Cost you about 15 to 18 bucks a night there. Guaranteed, you'll have at least one phone number for every 2 girls you approach.

If you are a black dude, go to the Philippines... holy fvck, black dudes clean house there. That or Japan and take the yellow cabs.

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What good does it do you dude? You are ****ing married. It's not like you can bang all these b!tches hitting on you. You act like you are some single guy living it up in China. The b!tch owns your ass. What happenes in China if she catches you covorting with another female?

Malice: That was when I was single dude, I don't cheat on my wife. I'm just passing on some life experience. The guy is failing at home and he can do one of two things, invest YEARS of his life into learning the game to pick up the lowest quality sh1t bags at home or he could hop a flight to anywhere else (mexico/china/russia) whatever and get a decent girl without much trouble. If all he wants is to get laid, jesus christ man, that's SUPER EASY. The USA, that's your arena, I don't know anything about dating FOBs there.

Scaramouche: I met my wife on Couchsurfing... but I think you got ripped off, unless that's 60 bucks for the month.

I'm just saying, whenever we go out, we usually use the 7 Days INN, we are actually VIP there. Its kind of a sh1t motel but its clean and they offer a 7 rmb breakfast (1 USD).

There's also the Jiangnan Inn or the J-INN... that place is a bit more upscale but then you are shelling out an extra 10 bucks, great breakfast buffet but you are looking at nearly 5 bucks. haha, god I'm cheap.

We don't live in North China anymore though.

But fvck western women man, they aren't even worth the dollar breakfast at 7 Days.

Even though I'm 25, I recently lost my virginity 3 months ago with a FWB, but I was getting desperate so I lowered my standards with an average looking girl, but I still feel like a virgin, its a long story

I want to help this guy, but being a virgin at age 30 and having never even felt the lips of another woman on yours seems something to do more with a personal mental/self-confidence problem than just physical appearance.

I've seen/known many men who are ugly as sin get laid quite easy. I've seen plenty of fat guys ram average looking women. It's all relative.

King Mays said:

Hey everybody. I'm currently working to get my life back on track.

I am 30 years old, broke, a virgin, and have never kissed a girl in my life. I'm a decent looking guy, but I have bad teeth that can be fixed easily with money.

I will be starting a business in about a year, so I'm not worried about the money problem.

What I'm trying to figure out is how to improve my social skills with women, while I get myself back on my feet. I feel no female will date me when I'm broke and live with my parents. I guess that's obvious.

But I still ask how I can talk to females while broke? I don't want to waste time. Also, I've lost contact with all my old friends.

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- Brush your teeth, use mouthwash, clean them as best as you can. Crooked teeth really don't matter as long as they're clean and you keep yourself presentable with how you dress. Most people do not have Hollywood smiles. Ethan Hawke has crappy teeth and he gets women. Google for proof.

- Keep in decent shape, eat properly, lose weight if you need to. Take up any physical activity that makes you sweat.

- Continue developing whatever business plans you have. A woman of value won't really care if you live with your parents as long as you're establishing yourself. Granted, 30 is a little old to still be at home but considering the economy is crap, not a big deal. As long as you're working towards something, I wouldn't even think too much of this.

- Dress in decent clothes and go out. I don't care where you go, just go out. Alone if you have to. Go out on weeknights and weekends, try to spend as little money as possible and get a cheap beer at a bar. Talk with EVERYBODY, including men and women, whoever.

- Never tell a woman how experienced or inexperienced you are. Lie always. If she asks you how many girlfriends or women you've slept with, lie. It's irrelevant. Realize that if you tell a woman you're a virgin at 30 years old, you're dead in the water unless she is some sort of special human being or Mother Theresa. LIE, always when asked about personal relationships with women.

- Be funny, be playful with women. Tease her. This is harder than it seems but with practice it will become natural.

- I suggest watching James Bond films. Pay attention how he acts towards women. Granted, he's a fictional character. But as a persona his attitude is what draws women. While this suggestion sounds silly, seriously view the films from a psychological perspective. In short: be witty, charming, somewhat cold/distant, and always act like nothing is ever too serious.

me still being in my 20's, I want to be able to sleep with an attractive girl before I turn 30, I feel the OP's pain, but I was getting desperate up to the point to settle for an average

I don't believe posts like these.
A virgin at 30? Never kissed a girl? A good looking guy, but with a teeth problem that he has NEVER bothered to get fixed?
Bvll****.
There is no fvking way any man could hold out that long. You must have fvcked a prositute at least?
The OP is fake and I am surprised so many people got sucked in to give the a serious reply.

Yeah I remember I made a vow if I didn't get laid before 25 I would go to a hooker or escort, but instead I lowered my standards

King Mays said:

But I still ask how I can talk to females while broke? I don't want to waste time. Also, I've lost contact with all my old friends.

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If you're serious I'd say practice your social skills without the intent to get laid. Focus on connections and having fun. Otherwise it will be a negative self reinforcing circle when you don't get laid.

That's your first problem. Solution: Waste as much time as you have to talk to women. Don't expect anything from them. Don't buy them flowers. Don't buy them drinks. Don't buy them dinner. Spend nothing on them but your time and words. Tease them, test their boundaries. Ask for phone number at the end to close the deal and gauge your performance. If she gives you a creeped-out look, you did REALLY poor. If she gives you a number, doesn't mean she's interested, it could be fake. But who cares. Try calling ONCE, if it's not a positive response, next. If it's a positive response, keep escalating until you get the lay. Rinse and repeat.

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Read my field report - fix your teeth and hit the gym. At 56, I still operate. Fvck dude a virgin at 30! WAKE UP! I started a business @ 55 starting from ground zero when I was bankrupt. There is NO excuse at all - being harsh I know I fvcked my first girl when I was 17 and she was still jail bait.
Visit a hooker - they will be very pleased to teach you how to do it.