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The Truth About Women

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this is a post by Unknown on bristollair. is this guy a great DJ or what? and you know what the sad part about this is? its all true. have fun guys, this is a rollercoaster ride.


by Unknown
A straight-talking post that was controversially posted across half of usenet in 2003.


I wasn't a sexist before I understood women. There was a time when I was blissfully ignorant. I grew up watching Disney cartoons, I believed in romance and "true love conquers all" etc. I wanted to find a woman who could be my equal, my partner. I believed in finding that one true love and being committed to each other forever. You know, like in the marriage vows, "for better or for worse, through sickness and in health, for richer or for poorer" etc. And I believed that women basically wanted the same thing. Now I understand that this was only possible when society was structured to enforce it. Now that women are "liberated" (and thus at the mercy of their own emotions and baser instincts) this is mostly no longer possible in today's society. Victorian society, or many Arab societies, are examples of how society used to be structured to keep women as faithful as possible.

I'd like to point out that I am not a misogynist...I love women. But I AM a sexist, in the sense that I believe women are vastly different than men and, according to the standards that men hold for other men, women are inferior as well.

I must be a bitter loser, right? In fact, I enjoy more success with women than most of the men in this city. I have slept with over 200 women in my life. I am sleeping with 5 different women right now. They are all normal, healthy, well-adjusted, good-looking (8+ on the looks scale) professional women. (At least as normal and healthy and well-adjusted as women can be - most women have issues.) But that's not all. I can go out any night of the week and pick up a woman. I can pick her up in front of all her friends (with 80% efficiency for each approach.) Women will slip me their phone number when their boyfriend is in the bathroom. I can talk to women on the street or in the grocery store and within 30 minutes, I can usually have sex with them right there in my car or get them back to my place. If I have to settle for a phone number, and I meet her on another day, assuming she doesn't flake, I WILL **** her that next day.

Let me point out right now that my Modus Operandi doesn't change in the slightest if she single or if she has a boyfriend or husband. I just do my normal routine and I **** her. Sometimes she brings up the boyfriend so she won't feel guilty when I **** her because now it's "my fault." Sometimes she hides it from me until after I've ****ed her, then she admits it. I can't tell you how many times I've been laying next to some chick, all sweaty cause I just finished busting a nut all over her face or in her mouth or on her back, and suddenly her phone rings and she's on the phone with her man, giving him some bull**** story. This is with NO GUILT WHATSOEVER!!! The sweetest most innocent girls you ever laid eyes on, will cheat at the drop of a HAT. The one thing that most men value most - loyalty - is just not there with women. Women don't think in terms of honor, women don't say "word is bond;" women are basically emotionally driven. If they feel it, they do it, period. Then they rationalize it to themselves later. Nothing is more meaningful, or compelling, to a woman than (1) the way she feels and (2) learning more about her own inner self and having emotional realizations. That's why women love astrology, chick flicks, soap operas, stupid Cosmo quizes that supposedly reveal info about yourself, etc.

I must be really good looking, right? NOPE. My looks are marginal; I'm maybe a 7. I don't work out (though I'm not fat or anything.) In fact I didn't have any success with women until I was in my early 20's. That's when I decided to go out a lot and start trying to get laid... I was willing to face rejection a thousand times a night, and do it over and over, trying everything, until I got it right. I had to completely set my ego aside. I didn't get laid at all for the first few months. Then every now and then. Then pretty often. Then downright consistently! I'm in my early 30's now and I am basically a sexual god. I wouldn't have even believed this were possible when I was in high school. The ONLY factor that determined whether a woman would cheat was my own skill level. When my skills were poor, women **** all over me. (Everyone knows how women think they have license to be rude *****es in social situations... in fact I understand and appreciate that behavior now.) But once my skills got good, I could **** just about anyone's wife or girlfriend. And many times I didn't know they had a man until after I ****ed them.

Look, I'm not saying that men are perfect, or whatever. Far from it. I'm just saying, I've spent a lot of my time studying women and interacting with them, and I know how they are. In fact, sometimes I hate knowing it. Sometimes I wish I had taken the blue pill, and never went down the rabbit hole, because now there's really no going back. I didn't want to believe these things... but how could I ever get married now? How could I ever be the chump who pays for everything and blissfully goes through life not worrying about his woman because he trusts her? Look, would you leave your dog alone with a steak? You can't hate the dog for doing what's in its nature. You can't trust a dog, BUT you can trust a dog to BE a dog. Some men are disloyal... but I could *never* trust a woman to be loyal. Some men are bad presidents...but I could *never* vote for a woman to be president. I can rarely expect a woman to regard her own promises as more important and compelling to her than the emotions she feels in the moment. She will rationalize it to herself later.

Here's an interesting fact. Did you know that the median 22 year old woman has TWICE as much sex as the median 22 year old man? You might ask, how is that possible? If a woman's having sex, doesn't that mean a man is having sex at the same time? And thus, shouldn't men be having just as much sex as women? NO...because most men hardly get laid, or if they do, it's because they "got lucky." But a small group of men get laid ALL THE TIME, and **** LOTS AND LOTS of women! It's evolution at work. Women follow their emotions, and that leads them to sleep with men like me (who know how to control female emotions.) Women want the top man...so the top man ****s lots of women. That's right - the sexual revolution, feminism, etc has resulted in a return to harems. Women, at the mercy of their own emotions, are volunteering for the modern-day equivalent of harems. Lucky for me!! Heh.

You might say, "But...but...I'm so nice! I'm a nice guy!" Guess what? That's like a fat chick saying, "But I'm so smart!" As if those things have anything in the world to do with sexual attraction!

I'm going to give some tips here for the poor sucker guys who are posting online trying to get laid and who are spending hundreds / thousands of dollars on all those *****s out there without getting any play. (You *****es know exactly what you're doing, and I'm on to your game!)

* Don't be sexually judgemental in any way. A woman's worst fear is to be perceived as a slut. She will suck your toes and take it in the ass if she thinks you don't view her poorly for it (and she knows her friends won't find out.)
 

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* Don't get angry at her. Women know they have emotional outbursts and they need to trust that you can handle that. It's ok (and necessary) to occasionally put your foot down...just make sure she knows you are fully in control of yourself.

* Don't let her manipulate you or control you in any way. She will immediately lose all respect for you. Always be leading. It's just like dancing - women hate a man who can't lead.

* When first approaching a woman or a group, they tend to get a feeling like this is just your little scheme to get close to them, when you really just want something from them - like sex. (And they're right.) It's important to structure your body language and conversation so that they honestly don't believe you want something from them. They should feel like you are about to leave at any second.

* DON'T TRY TO IMPRESS HER IN ANY WAY. Don't show off. Don't talk about accomplishments or possessions. As soon as she perceives that you are trying to prove yourself to her, she loses all interest.

* Don't ignore her friends. A woman values her friend's opinions more than just about anything else in the world. Nothing matters to her more than what other women are thinking. Give her friends lots of attention and get everyone laughing. If one woman is feeling different than the others, she will drag them away. They will follow like a flock of pigeons. Society is the book of women. (Notice that men do NOT behave this way! Women are very different!)

* To get a woman attracted / emotionally vulnerable, give her lots of emotions and feelings. Don't just make her feel good. Make her feel good, and angry, and sad, and connected, and astonished, and intrigued, etc. Make her laugh. Tease her. Tell stories about your sick puppy. Tell her why things would never work out between the two of you. Call her a dork. If she gets heated up, she will start touching you...playfully push her away. If she calls you a jerk and punches your arm, you are doing it right. If she gives you that "I can't believe you just said that" look, do NOT back down, do not say "Oh I'm just kidding" or anything like that.

* As she gets more emotional, she will try to ruin things by throwing in logic. She will ask you if you are a player, or if you say this to all the girls, or whatever. The trick is this: Don't take it seriously by giving it some logical answer! That's right...women lose interest if you take them seriously!!! It's crazy but that's how they behave. Just blow it off or misinterpret what she's saying as though she is coming on to you. If you fail these tests, she will be gone so fast your head will spin.

* She will start asking you lots of questions. This is what chicks do when they suddenly find themselves attracted to a man they know nothing about. This is your chance to open up a little and also find out more about her and build a deeper connection. You have to do this, or she will flake later (even if you've kissed her!) Women are the worst flakes in the world! Don't make it too easy for her, make her work for it a bit. Then talk about connections and childhood memories and things you have in common, etc. She needs to feel that this is genuine. This is usually the time when I throw in a few fake vulnerabilities, like pretending I'm shy or insecure about something. I know it's ****ed up but women need to see that there are at least a few small holes where they can sink their hooks in you. They get uneasy if you are too perfect.

* Make sure she gets the feeling that you have standards and that you are judging her based on them. Ask her questions that show her you are checking her out to see if she is up to snuff. Women don't like to feel like you are with them only because you can't do any better. They prefer to feel like you have high standards; you can get any chick you want, but you chose HER because she is SOOOO special and SOOOO different from all the others. Yeah, I know.

* Move her to different locations. Take her next door for a drink. Take her across the street to check out some art. The more locations the better.

* Take responsibility for every escalation. A woman will do just about anything as long as she doesn't have to feel like it was "her fault." Make it YOUR fault. Make it "just happen." She will rationalize it to herself later using the same bull**** generator that women use to flake out on dates at the last minute. Don't get her horny until you get her isolated. Believe me, emotional is better than horny.

* Keep the woman always swinging somewhere between validation and rejection. If she feels rejected, she drops out or gets REALLY MAD. And if she feels too validated, she will ditch you in a heartbeat. So push her away (emotionally) and then pull her back in.

* BELIEVE YOUR OWN BULL****. Chicks do not look at your excuses and try to see if they are bull**** or not... because that is the logical thing to do, and chicks are not logical. Rather, what they do is see if YOU seem to believe your own bull**** when you say it. If you look like you do, then chances are, they will believe it too. So the key is to believe your own bull****, and other aspects about yourself that you want the chick to believe about you too (alpha male..whatever)... because your own self beliefs for some reason will automatically 'impart' to the chick!

* One more thing...many guys make the mistake of listening to female romantic advice. Don't listen to them, THEY DON'T KNOW WTF THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT, and they WILL steer you wrong. They will tell you what they THINK they want, instead of what they actually RESPOND to. And furthermore, a large part of the female sexual experience IS the inability to admit these things BECAUSE they derive sexual pleasure from putting up resistance and being overwhelmed.

If you do things this way, after a few months practice you WILL get laid like a rock star. The guys who get laid are the ones who know what they are doing, because they have practiced on lots of women. Ironically, women are most attracted to the men who are most likely to **** them and then dump them on their ass - because those are precisely the men who have so many other options because they practice on lots of women. That's why you always hear women *****ing about how men are *******s that only want to **** them and dump them - because those are the men that they gravitate to.

Women tend to wise up when they get towards their 30s, and they start looking for a nice wimpy beta male to settle down with and pay for all their ****. As they get older, they will get more and more desperate to find this guy. Once they do, they will cheat on him with an exciting fun guy like me. (But who wants to **** some old chick in her 30's? That's what beta males are for! Heh)

Hey, don't blame me - I didn't make things the way they are. I was just a guy who wanted to get laid. And I do :)

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good stuff

It's very well-written and shows a strong perspective on women. Thanks for posting it.
 

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But wait? does this post only apply to american women or women in general?
 

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Awesome post bro.

I believe, or at least hope, there is a small minority of women who have integrity like granite. I agree though, a lot of women are pretty manipulable.

Again, superb advice.

--Izza
 

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Roly, Roly, Roly.... cant you see that this guy can kick any master Don Juan's ass. this guy can get any women from any race or nationality as long as they speak the same language. I know it is difficult to believe or understand something this amazing.
only when we are half as good as this guy is we start to believe that he could be that good at it. just think that in everything that could be done by men there are men who are terrible at it, bad at it, regular at it,good at it, excellent at it, and unbelieveable at it.
I consider myself to improve from bad in seduction to good in 11 months and sometimes I dont believe it myself that I improved so much because of all the HB's 8 I can get #close. now Im working hard towards the HB's ten. this guy can go to china or africa and get the same results because all women react to emotions and are not rational as AFCs believe they are.
my ultimate goal is to get HBs 10 consistently and effortless and wach the other men while they look at us passing by and ask themselves"WTF? either this monkey is the luckiest monkey on earth or he has a lot of money, how the hell did he get that HB 10? notice that they say it with envy and not with admiration.
this is exactly how I taught before I found this site and started to practiced what this site and the DJs teach us.

thanks pook,,, "as you think, you should become" "hesitation leads to masturbation.""enbrace your sexuality"
 

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Fantastic post. Capital T truth right there.

In some way, at first, you might feel a little dissapointed that things just happen to work these ways (and not the 'Disney' mentality (as labeled in that post)).
But if you can see you can use this in your favor, you really start seeing inprovement.

I really didn't know what the **** I was doing and I just acted 'normal'. Then I started using things that people preach that wouldn't make any sense to work at all. And then they did. I still have a lot of experience to gain, but hey, I'm still young and I know I can do it. No biggi :D
 

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i found this a lot of time ago, but i've always forgotten to post it here. i think it's amazing and it's my favourite piece of advice altogether with evil ways by stockholder
 

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Yeah, this is a great summery of the twisted mind of the female species.
I’m still nowhere near the Don Juan I want to be, & a lot of this advice is already sinking in.

But my main problem I’m trying to overcome at the moment is
* Don't be sexually judgemental in any way. A woman's worst fear is to be perceived as a slut. She will suck your toes and take it in the ass if she thinks you don't view her poorly for it (and she knows her friends won't find out.)
I just can’t help it. It’s all subconscious. Form everything I’ve read & observed in life I KNOW that women, generally, are very slutty, & will sleep around.

For example, I walked a girl home once & as we were entering her house she said “I don’t do this kinda thing often”, & that was obviously her ‘anti slut defence’ in action, & I couldn’t help but give a sarcastic comment. I thought it was a good neg-hit at the time, but I heard later from her friends that she said she felt like I was ‘using her for sex’.

Can anyone give any advice on how to stop insinuating that women are ‘sluts’ despite everything I’ve learned / know to the contrary?
 

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Originally posted by diceman
Can anyone give any advice on how to stop insinuating that women are ‘sluts’ despite everything I’ve learned / know to the contrary?
Ask yourself: "Am I comfortable with MY sexuality? If you feel somehow that the sex you're having is unclean, women will sense it and be more likely to bolt. Become comfortable with your primal manhood, and women's attitudes will begin to reflect your attitude.

--Izza
 

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The original post is the best thing i have read so far in the 9 months i've been learning about women and seduction. I am thankful that i didn't read this in the early days when i was still in my disney lets fall in love and live happily ever after reality. i think i would have been depressed for weeks. To me it seems simpler than ever. control myself, control womens emotions and have no hang ups about sex. Hopefully in a few months as the writer stated i shall be scoring like a rockstar.
 

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the KILLer said>>>I am thankful that i didn't read this in the early days when i was still in my disney lets fall in love and live happily ever after reality. i think i would have been depressed for weeks.

I dont think that any AFC is able to understand Unknown's apprach to seduce women or even believe that its possible to get laid using his techniques.
Im sure I would have laugh out laud if I read something like this in my full blown AFCs days and say it is a total lie.
being an AFC is the result of DECADES of misinformation and mental programming by the media, our friends, our relatives and even our few girlfriends giving us terrible dating tips advise and from preventing us from getting some quality azz.
 

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Amen, librito. This type of info shouldn't be the first thing a full-blown AFC reads when he decides to take that first step to DJism. As a current quasi-DJ, I agree with everything said in this guy's post, except where he says to make the girl feel angry/sad. I think you should def play to the girl's emotions, but I think when you first meet her, you should keep it positive. Then, as the relationship progresses, stir up a lil controversy and keep her guessing as to what you'll do next.
 

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This man is right about the things he has said. After having had quite a bit of real world experience, I can say that there is a difference between reading these words and understanding them on an intellectual level (you believe it, you will choose to play by its rules) and actually understanding them based on your own life experiences in dealing with women. The people here are correct when they say that the only way you will learn and reach that gut-level understanding is to go out and practice.
 

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Originally posted by librito
* DON'T TRY TO IMPRESS HER IN ANY WAY. Don't show off. Don't talk about accomplishments or possessions. As soon as she perceives that you are trying to prove yourself to her, she loses all interest.
Hable ti sin hablar

This should be a proverb. Speak of yourself without speaking. Part of women's difference from men is they have a much more well defined capacity for communication than men. She reads you on many different levels - by overtly communicating your status in an effort to impress you shatter any chance of her 'discovering' things about you. Women want to peel away layers of you, not eat the whole onion at once.

Memorize and repeat this to your friends and sons.
 

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Controlling emotions

Lady_killR,

Would you please clarify what you mean by "controlling women's emotions?" Isn't this an unrealistic goal?

On the other hand, how you feel always does seem to affect others around you.

Still, I think that there is danger in thinking you can control another's emotion - influence it perhaps.

One lesson that was important for me to learn was that there's always a chance to be burned in loving women. This risk is the ante to play.

I look forward to what you have to say - I'm not trying to persuade you of anything, I'm looking for help resolving an inner debate. All the best,

--Izza

Originally posted by Lady_KillR
The original post is the best thing i have read so far in the 9 months i've been learning about women and seduction. I am thankful that i didn't read this in the early days when i was still in my disney lets fall in love and live happily ever after reality. i think i would have been depressed for weeks. To me it seems simpler than ever. control myself, control womens emotions and have no hang ups about sex. Hopefully in a few months as the writer stated i shall be scoring like a rockstar.
 
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