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How do you guys feel about the human race moving towards messing with unknown forces. Shít like cloning, sex replication, brain mapping, bio engineering, creation of organs. I feel like it can only go downhill. Some shít we should just leave alone.
 
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regardess of what you (or anyone else) wishes, such things WILL be experimented with, cause jerks insist on living forever, if they can, and they insist that they are important, that they have kids of their "own" and other such arrogance. Leave the govt out of everything AMAP, cause everything that the gov't touches automatically turns to shyte.
 

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Intentionally denying ourselves knowledge and experience seems silly to me.
 

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The knowledge of this isn't the problem, it's the abuse of the knowledge. This goes back to more primitive things, like guns. Guns themselves do not kill people.
 

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With every new technology there is good and bad. The same ammonia that Germans used to power their rockets is used in fertilizer to feed us today.

The same nitroglycerin in the dynamite invented by Alfred Nobel that killed many railroad workers, actually helps with certain heart diseases.

Chinese invented gunpowder can lead to amazing firework displays, or can give a nation the technology superiority to conquer half the world.

Knowledge and technology will move "forward". Abuses will be made. But so will good things.

The trick is to be on the right side of history. On a societal and individual level. If you were born in the Middle East back in their Golden Age, life was good for you. If you were born in the Middle East today, you have drones bombing the sh!t out of you and sectarian factions murdering your family.

Question is, which societies are developing these technologies first and will be able to use them? Then if you fit into that society, will you have access to any of these technologies via political power or money?

The correct question is not "Are we playing God?" or "Should we be heading this way?" because we already are whether we like it or not. The right question is are we on the right side, right place, and right time?
 

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It all depends on how it's used. If we're using this technology to strengthen good genes and make us better as a species, then it's a great advantage. If we're using it to weaken our genes or lead us in the direction of extinction, then we're self-sabotaging ourselves.

Ponder this: is it at our advantage to clone a gay human with a heart condition? Or is it our advantage to clone a straight man with little or no medical problems?
 

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Desdinova said:
Ponder this: is it at our advantage to clone a gay human with a heart condition? Or is it our advantage to clone a straight man with little or no medical problems?
Lol I'm unsure at the point your trying to make here. The social justice warriors would say clone both because both lives are equal in value.
 

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SmooveMooves said:
Lol I'm unsure at the point your trying to make here.
If you clone a straight man with little or no medical issues, it contributes to strengthening the human race. His kids are less likely to be "born gay" which ensures future procreation. A lack of medical issues means he has good genes. Both are beneficial in the success of keeping the human race alive.

The gay man has no desire to procreate. He is a dead end in the human race. You could clone him 1000 times and they'll all be dead within 100 years without passing on their genes. If he has a heart condition, the clones may be dead within 70 years. A lack of procreation and a shorter lifespan does NOT make the human race stronger nor does it ensure existence.

Cloning should be used to make our species better and more resilient.

The social justice warriors would say clone both because both lives are equal in value.
Well of course they would. Their lives are equal in value in the now, but they're not equals when it comes to our future.
 
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