Ah, just what we needed...

[AW1983]

http://www.moviefone.com/movie/miss-.../10050589/main

[Warrior74]

http://youtu.be/LuJ4hbkLiY0

[Greasy Pig]

I dream of a world where women one day say: "You know what? I guess I'm just going to have to be better if I want to get ahead in life."

Instead, they claim sexism and misogyny. I don't give a sh!t if women only represent 10 per cent of executive positions. Any employer or company board would be mad not to employ a woman if she had the talent. After all, it's in the company's best interests to employ the best people in key roles.

So if there are no women in senior management, does that mean the company hates women or that the women who applied weren't up to scratch?
I refuse to accept the bullsht that women aren't employed as executives purely because they're women.
They just can't accept that a man is sometimes better at the job.

And who would invest in a company that employs a woman purely because of her sex rather than her skills? That sort of culture just doesn't make good business sense.

This whole argument reeks and I can't believe it's taken seriously.

I am the boss of an office full of women (I'm the only man of a staff of 10) and they are all extremely capable. In fact, I'd employ most of them if I had my own business.
But I don't care if they're male or female, if they couldn't do the job they'd be out the door and I'd hire someone who could do it - male or female.

Awesome vid by the way, Warrior. I love Arnie.

[Nutz]

Originally Posted by Greasy Pig

So if there are no women in senior management, does that mean the company hates women or that the women who applied weren't up to scratch?
I refuse to accept the bullsht that women aren't employed as executives purely because they're women.
They just can't accept that a man is sometimes better at the job.

I agree overall, but it's not that men are better at being an exec or something, it's all about women NOT GOING INTO THOSE FIELDS and putting in the hours and making the sacrifices it takes to get to that level. All things being equal women take easier, cushier, less difficult jobs on the whole and work less hours annually. All combined, BAM! there's your wage gap. It's been well documented for quite some time now. Check out the sidebar at http://www.reddit.com/r/mensrights. Hell, just look up the Consad report. The information is out there. Even NOW recognizes that the wage gap is a myth at this point.

EDIT:

Saw this earlier today:

http://femintology.wordpress.com/201...-round-worker/

[Greasy Pig]

Spot on, Nutz.
I don't know how many times I've had women ask me for rostering concessions and easier work because of the sort of issues men just don't have.
Whether it's medical, looking after sick animals or childcare.
I also know a lot of women who will put in long hours and do extra but they have all been unmarried and childless.
I think having children and high-ranking promotions are nearly mutually exclusive.
You can't stay back to put in extra if you've gotta pick the kids up from school or cook dinner for the family.
Granted, these are noble, motherly and positive things which a woman should be proud of.
Just don't expect to be promoted over a man who busts his arse for 12 hours a day while you work 9-5, that's all.

[samspade]

Women will always play the misogyny/sexism card. It's hammered into their brains from day one thanks to movies like this. And whenever they interview successful women, they always have to brag about all the sexist obstacles they overcame. I understand why anyone who's achieved success might look for motivation and take a "nobody believed in me" attitude. Unfortunately, for American women, the boogeyman must always be the archetypal, stereotypical Sexist Misogynist White Male Executive, forever conspiring to keep her down.

The truth is that women are a far greater threat to each other than most men. Women are the true misogynists. They will backbite and backstab and play dirty to eliminate their female competition. I've seen many a woman seethe with hatred over her female boss. Most men who have a-hole male bosses, while they may not like it, shrug their shoulders and consider their options, because a man will usually understand that nobody put him in that position but himself, and he can find a way out. Females in the work force are far more likely to find a scapegoat. Again - lack of accountability....funny how it always circles back to that.

[scrouds]

Originally Posted by Nutz

I agree overall, but it's not that men are better at being an exec or something, it's all about women NOT GOING INTO THOSE FIELDS and putting in the hours and making the sacrifices it takes to get to that level. All things being equal women take easier, cushier, less difficult jobs on the whole and work less hours annually. All combined, BAM! there's your wage gap. It's been well documented for quite some time now. Check out the sidebar at http://www.reddit.com/r/mensrights. Hell, just look up the Consad report. The information is out there. Even NOW recognizes that the wage gap is a myth at this point.

I would disagree with the first part. Men tend to be stronger leaders, are more able to form effective teams and are more likely to do better in executive type positions.

Plus the type of women that go for these types of jobs are pretty masculine anyways. Its those masculine skills that are needed for these jobs.

The whole PC idea that women can do whatever men can do needs to die. While they may be able to, it comes at cost, be it extra effort, extra work, or even their feminitity.

[scrouds]

Originally Posted by samspade

Women will always play the misogyny/sexism card. It's hammered into their brains from day one thanks to movies like this. And whenever they interview successful women, they always have to brag about all the sexist obstacles they overcame. I understand why anyone who's achieved success might look for motivation and take a "nobody believed in me" attitude. Unfortunately, for American women, the boogeyman must always be the archetypal, stereotypical Sexist Misogynist White Male Executive, forever conspiring to keep her down.

The truth is that women are a far greater threat to each other than most men. Women are the true misogynists. They will backbite and backstab and play dirty to eliminate their female competition. I've seen many a woman seethe with hatred over her female boss. Most men who have a-hole male bosses, while they may not like it, shrug their shoulders and consider their options, because a man will usually understand that nobody put him in that position but himself, and he can find a way out. Females in the work force are far more likely to find a scapegoat. Again - lack of accountability....funny how it always circles back to that.

Men have rivals, women have enemies. A man's rivalry will determine status and pecking order. Once that's done everyone gets to work. Doesn't happen like that with women. They stay enemies.

[Burroughs]

ALL WOMEN HATE OTHER WOMEN

thats because women understand their true parasitic nature, even if they don't admit it publicly... above all they need MEN NOT TO UNDERSTAND THIS.

[Nutz]

Originally Posted by scrouds

I would disagree with the first part. Men tend to be stronger leaders, are more able to form effective teams and are more likely to do better in executive type positions.

Plus the type of women that go for these types of jobs are pretty masculine anyways. Its those masculine skills that are needed for these jobs.

The whole PC idea that women can do whatever men can do needs to die. While they may be able to, it comes at cost, be it extra effort, extra work, or even their feminitity.

Fair point. Testosterone is one of, if not THE chief driving force behind risk taking behaviors, which is requisite to reach the pinnacle of success. Granted it can also lead to abject failure. See also the Apex Fallacy and the glass cellar, particularly how they're ignore by feminist:

http://www.magic-city-news.com/Berna...h1 0920.shtml

http://www.the-spearhead.com/2011/01...-apex-fallacy/

[calvinmark]

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