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If this is your first visit to SoSuave, I would advise you to START HERE.

It will be the most efficient use of your time.

And you will learn everything you need to know to become a huge success with women.

Thank you for visiting and have a great day!

Treat All Women The Same (during the first two months)

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NEVER GIVE AN INCH

It doesn't matter if she is eighteen or eighty. It doesn't matter if she is Miss America or a '1'.

You put all women through the SAME dating tips and tactics.

It doesn't matter if she likes rock climbing or is in a wheelchair. It doesn't matter if she is from Brazil or Canada.

You still make them wait FIVE days before you call. You don't buy gifts. You keep your personal information to yourself.

You don't go north with one girl and south with another.
You don't go up with this one and down with that one.

In the Army all the recruits are as different as night and day. But the Army, in Basic Training, makes them climb EVERY obstacle in their path. Nothing is changed for an individual. They either make it or they have to drop out.

You follow the same procedure time and time again with ALL women.

This will almost guarantee you success finding an INTERESTED women because it is like having a love machine. Just push a button and there she is...well there is more work than that but you get the picture.

You are now on the Road to 'The One'.

P.S. I am not talking about 'nice guy' tips and tactics.

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Good post! Will have to implement that into my DJ skills.

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Great stuff AD,

In survival of the fittest only the toughest will survive.

Evolution weeds out the weak! These are the rules for the evolution of a mans dating game.

Cheers.
 

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Great stuff AD,

In survival of the fittest only the toughest will survive.

Evolution weeds out the weak! These are the rules for the evolution of a mans dating game.

Cheers.
 

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Hey man, is there ever a point where the games stop with women? I mean the whole 5 days to call and all, does this have to continue throughout the entire relationship, even if you are engaged or something? If not, when does it stop, and act natural?
 

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Originally posted by Anti-Dump:


In the Army all the recruits are as different as night and day. But the Army, in Basic Training, makes them climb EVERY obstacle in their path. Nothing is changed for an individual. They either make it or they have to drop out.

You follow the same procedure time and time again with ALL women.

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Basic Training....I like this analogy...We all have to go thru the same **** before we can "outgrow" our Mr Nice Guy personality


Smitty, these are not games, these are proven methods to check/increase women's interest levels in us and to weed out those flukes.....The frequency of their use would naturally decrease (Never hit zero!)when you are getting more & more of what you want from your relationship.....coz women never stop testing our limits!
 

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Thanks for the post AD
 

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AD yep you are right about treating all women the same.
but what if she is diclosing information about herself and you are stone faced. If there is no two way communication there will be no chemistry, NO CHEMISTRY =>NO INTEREST.
You wait a few days but the number should be up to you. You need mutually compatable needs for there to be chemistry and there is no way to do this bessides mutual disclosure. This is a fact that i have found in many social psychology texts.
Gift giving too ealry is inappropiate ond only leads to you being burn't crispy charcoal.
If she goes against my beliefs she is outa there and the auto ejection takes over.
Ther is no such thing as a love machine as we are all still slaves to our horomnes and genes.
The 5 day thing can be faded out over a period of 9 months.
I have to know someone for 9 months before i consider a relationship with them. this is to sort the B!$#@@# from the honneys.

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Crazyman,

The fact is, women are ruthless with info they get with you and absolutely cannot be 'objective'.
For the first month.

The fact is she is going to misinterpret what you say and form bad conclusions about personal things you tell her.

Go on a first date with a woman and tell her you were looking at a book about the Satanic Church and were just curious about it.
She is not going to see you were just curious about it.

Everything you say after that will be DISTORTED in her mind.
The longer you go with a woman, the more acceptable the information.

You don't sit there stone faced.
You talk about HER.
You shouldn't be 'talking' (getting personal) for the first couple of dates. See if she is ready on time. She if she is eager for the dates. See if she likes your date ideas FIRST.

Maybe she likes another guy better. Let her go to him. But if she sticks around with you being tight lipped, then you know you have a winner.

Information, in the beginning,
turns a women OFF. Action dates, swimming, bowling, etc. turn her on.

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Smitty,

If a girl has made almost all dates in a two month period, and you can reach her easily, and she is calling you between dates, then you can relax or eliminate the rules.

But if bad stuff starts happening back they go. It's like an electric fence. You turn it off when you are sure you won't be robbed. But switch it back on at signs of trouble.

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Although I have a different set of rules than AD, this is very important. Make no exceptions! Good post.
 

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You only put general in formation with asprinkling of minor personal information. You don't say what you do alot in your spare time.
but you have to show that you have some intelligence and aren't one sided.
If you are one sided it will come off as lacking substance. I happen to love a good arguement or discussion.
Every now and then You can talk about anything but not personal information. If you can relate her experinces to yours somehow that will help.
It is about finding a balnace between doing and talking. to much of either is bad.

The fact that women is ruthless with informatin is the reason why i try to remeber what is said in each conversation- it gets filed away for storage. If you want you play thier game but using your rules.

Noone in 7 years has yet to penetrate my defenses. I use the casual aquaintance/ friend technique to screen out the users etc. Why because users will not stajnd for waitng 9 months before the first real date. In The first 9 months it is just casuals dating as friends and it is not serious it is more for fun.
As an extreemly unsociable guy, I have social anxiety disorder which is limiting my social life on is own. Try even getting a date when you cant even stand being there.

P.S i would use the satanic church thing to just see if she was alive and the date was dead anyways.

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Ok good post,but I have a question here.We treat all women the same for the first 2 months.Do you mean we even have to implement the same rules for dates too.Not choosing a weekend or night time and playing hard to get rules?If that's the case then we'll have to know when it's time to stop and change when it's necessary.And also,are you trying to say that we will also need to implement the rules such as following strictly all our Don-Juan techniques for the 2 months period and then later we'll decide what to do next?


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Ok good post,but I have a question here.We treat all women the same for the first 2 months.Do you mean we even have to implement the same rules for dates too.Not choosing a weekend or night time and playing hard to get rules?If that's the case then we'll have to know when it's time to stop and change when it's necessary.And also,are you trying to say that we will also need to implement the rules such as following strictly all our Don-Juan techniques for the 2 months period and then later we'll decide what to do next?
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to answer your question IntermediateDonJuaner
being a don juan is not about tricks and tactics, its not about using certain tricks and technics and after a couple of months start being your self. HELL NO!!!!! being a Don Juan is about knowing what to do and changing your state of mind into a charismatic don juan. you should not just use some tricks for 2 months and then go to the loser mode that never got u any chicks in the first place, you should know the technics and apply them on YOUR personality so you are not acting like something youre not but rather changing your personality into something you always wanted to be. So dont swich modes you should put those tactics in your personality so you are automaicly that way,and dont have to pretend anymore. I Hope this helps
 

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What I am trying to say here is what shall we do next after we have reached a certain level?

Basically, I am a person that has no idea what to do next after getting a woman's number? Going out? How often should i do so?
What am i going to do next?

I am kinda lost in a way. Therefore, I guess I am a kinda loser after all.


Have a nice day!
 

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hey

i happen to agree w/ this. Testing it out now. Recently dated a woman who couldn't remember my name after I picked her up in a bar, took her home, and did her. We dated awhile. She did things that were amazing w/ her body, but then had to tell me she knew how good she was @ this & that in a crass manner. She also had a mood disorder & partied way too much. I didn't call much. Saw her once-sometimes twice a week. She asked me about exclusivity twice. I finally stopped seeing her after she made an ass out of herself @ my house.

I am dating someone now who is not psychologically disturbed, who seems together so far. I treat her like I did Raving Looney girl. Together Chick is calling me between dates & paying for dinner and being cool.

I like judging them against the same tactics. It allows me to get a good look @ them.

out

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HAhahahaha, Very interesting, AD!
But if you every let the girl find out you are trying to test her in certein levels. she will definited smack you in the face or leave immediatly.

Frankly if you date a girl it is all about feels. if the feels are right then its all good to me. why do them like a test materials? what if you like the girls but they fail the test?
To me its all about feelings. test is for military not in the love game. love is a feeling. you can't accept a girl becouse they pass your test. unless if you think that is what it is all about, testing them like no different...i think they will probably think you are a freak...

If you can't get the feelings, then i can't help you...

please dont get me wrong, it is just how i feel, and i respect military idea.


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I think some people take these posts too literally. I mean, he is being literal, but at the same time you adapt to different people and situations. But, the ground work for how you pick a LTR or whatever, should be the same for a 10 as a 7. You don't want to spend your life with a b*tch just 'cause she looks good. Meaning, you let her slide where others would not have.
 

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You know...now that I have gone back and revisited some stuff in the DJB I thought was great as a newbie, I can't believe what a bad post this is.

Originally posted by Anti-Dump:

NEVER GIVE AN INCH

It doesn't matter if she is eighteen or eighty. It doesn't matter if she is Miss America or a '1'.

You put all women through the SAME dating tips and tactics.
Wrong...BUZZER! An exceptionally attractive women responds unfavorably to tactics that would be just fine for a girl who isn't that hot. Anyone who has spent any time in the field knows that.

Originally posted by Anti-Dump:
You still make them wait FIVE days before you call.
What if she is at buying temperature when you met her and you made conctrete plans to have sex? Are you going to wait five days to have to rebuild THAT over the phone? Let me answer that one for you, NO.

Originally posted by Anti-Dump:

You don't buy gifts.
What if she has behaved well (sexually) and your gift is not an act of supplication but a reward that would encourage the good behavior? It is much more effective to reward a woman for good behavior that to punish her for bad behavior, even though the latter must sometimes be done.

Originally posted by Anti-Dump:
You keep your personal information to yourself.
What if your 'personal information' would serve to fascinate her and draw her deeper into you?

Originally posted by Anti-Dump:

This will almost guarantee you success finding an INTERESTED women
Agreed! But ALL methods find an interested woman...EVENTUALLY! Why not just make the necessary changes to your life and your performance to be attractive to many different kinds of women?

Anti-Dump? Ha. We need to start calling this guy "Anti-Seduce".

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Originally posted by SexPDX:
You know...now that I have gone back and revisited some stuff in the DJB I thought was great as a newbie, I can't believe what a bad post this is.

Agreed! But ALL methods find an interested woman...EVENTUALLY! Why not just make the necessary changes to your life and your performance to be attractive to many different kinds of women?



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After just deleting my entire reply to this (in particular PDX's comments) thread, I'll make it short and sweet.

When I first read this post I thought it was gold.

Why?

Because it makes successful dating seem so simple: no thinking require, no change required, just go on autopilot and eventually you'll find a girl who likes you on autopilot.

What's wrong with this is that it doesn't leave room for the fact that sometimes it is us men ourselves, who have to change, in order to have most success.

So, after all, this post is not so hot. Although AD did make some great posts...

Soul

Oh, by the way... who IS Anti-Dump?
 
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