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I think there are other steps along the path, such as: You can approach, but stall out. You can approach and vibe but can't perform a contact close. You start getting good numbers but suck at phone game and she flakes. You start getting day2 meetups but either stall out, have a bad...

Yes, this guy has the right idea. Always be escalating and avoid sexless frames like the plague. I used to go on six hour dates and not even touch the girl, then wonder why she never returned my calls. She spent that much time with me and then doesn't ever want to see me again? Why? The...

The whole "alpha" and disinterest thing is entirely overblown in the community. David D'Angelo and others release a couple DVDs with the idea of being ****y and funny and now everyone thinks they can never show any legitimate interest in a woman. I think miscalibration of this concept costs a...

Your problem is that both of the sites you used are crap. Match.com and Myspace are probably the best sites for online dating. I dont know about Plenty of Fish, and I have heard Facebook is great if you are in college or very close to that age. Try asking very different, somewhat bizarre...

No, no, no. Sorry but this just doesn't work. A LOT of women will not kino you first, especially when sober. My last two f-closes neither girl kinoed me AT ALL prior to escalation to the seduction location. Yet, they both went upstairs to "meet my cat" willingly and gave zero LMR the whole...

C & F has been a big turd for me online. Its often misconstrued by its recipient because there is no body language or tonality or context to back it up. I have had better success with opinion openers or being rather overtly complimentary. I have been known to get as high as a 50%+ response...

There already was another thread created for this topic, as she said. Please don't hijack mine in yet another SoSuave vs. the Devil's Advocate urinating contest. Lets stay on topic with people's experiences with the fickleness of online dating.

Yesterday, I went through and charted out some outcomes for the 26 dates I have been on in the past 9 months where I actually tried for a second date. (there have been about 10 where I basically decided that I wanted nothing further--we won't count these) I specifically related this to whether...

Its odd too, because I have had girls online during first dates in the last few months who have: Openly told me how much fun they were having. Openly told me how pleasantly surprised they were with me. Openly told me I was good looking. Bought me dinner. Talked extensively about...

Recently, I have come up with a theory. Online dating, while very easy to get phone numbers and phone calls and even first dates, is very difficult to progress to future dates and sex. The party line around here and ASF is that this is because of the "dating frame", but I disagree. The...

I hear you. I often wish that I was a woman. Then, I wouldn't have to deal with this crap. Everything else in my life is figured out, but I keep going through this...rejection after rejection, with no rhyme or reason why. I got more quality women as an AFC than now.

Well, I did it, and I am honestly thrilled with the outcome. Its a new look, and I had the same haircut more or less for 20 years. I did some sunless tanner on the scalp and then did a general tanning session and it makes it look loads better. I think it suits me well, and I was happy that my...

LOL, maybe some crop circles.

Thanks for the feedback everyone...still trying to decide. My forehead is so high that it is pretty easy for me to envision myself bald...I did a little test last night by putting my hands over my hair and pulling it back as far as I could...looked pretty good, I thought. You are right about...

Deciding if I want to chrome dome it...I am 25 with some pretty significant MPB on the crown of my head (not visible in pics) and some fairly badly receding temples. I still have a thick hairline, though it is pretty noticeably receded. These pics actually make it look pretty good. MPB is BAD in...

Makes sense, I am a 25 year old guy with a MIS degree...we are wild lays :) Nah, just been running cold lately. My two best lays ever have both been older postgraduate educated women who didn't put me through a bunch of crap. The best sex I have ever had in my life was with a girl who is...

I came to this conclusion recently. Most of the women I have been trying to get and have been getting don't offer that much to my life. I have more money (which they often think I should spend on them), I am better educated, I have a nicer place, a higher class of friends, I am often better...

Sure there is...its not like Angelina Jolie is going to dump Brad Pitt for someone here. There are also a lot of happily married women and those with boyfriends who really are pretty unattainable at this time. Not every woman is chomping at the bit to cheat, even if her guy is AFC. Most...

1. Yes, I approach, though I get AA from time to time. Particularly in day game and while sober. 2. 1-2 nights a week. 3. Yes, I could open it, I have trouble pulling the one I want out of sets. 4. Yes. 5. Yes, if consistency is defined as maybe 1 out of every 3 sets. That is...

There is nothing wrong with this...just be sure you are doing it for the right reasons. If you ever wanted to try a new area, new country, or such, the point you are at in your life is a good time to do it. I have always said that if I were to leave my job or somehow get canned, I would...