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Yeah dude I'm definitely going to make sure she sees!! I'll have to make it nonchalant though. Out of the few I've been out with, all but one is had been hotter than she is...and overall just better (career, educated, etc...). Yes I know it makes me sound ridiculous to say "yes I've found...

When he screws up she'll run to me. In the meantime I'm gonna do my thing and hopefully get to where I don't want her when she does. Be friendly when needed but unavailable. I may never date her, but at some point I'm sure I'll sleep with her. Just wait till she catches on that I'm out with...

Yeah. Jealously is a b**** I guess. She gets jealous over everything if I'm not feeding that ego. Mad if i ignore her for a day, mad if I don't reply to stuff, etc...this time she was mad I responded to her friend's text and not her rant she threw at me. Thought I was mad because she couldn't go...

No need for personal attacks dude. I haven't mentioned the other date details because that's not the point of this thread. This isn't about them, it's about the original post. The title doesn't read "friend zone fun and my other dates" Feel free to not reply or read anymore if it bothers you...

She's cute, but she's not one that every guy would find "hot". I totally agree though. No one holds them accountable for their BS.

I've just been dragging it along. I'd post here if I could, but she's been using quite a bit of profanity lol. I mean I honestly am laughing at the fact she's so mad. I agree...she needs to be checked though. For sure.

I've been getting chewed out in a few texts completely unprovoked. Mad about last night I jokingly giving her a hard time about getting permission to talk to me. ...she's tripped the f out. Cussing me up and down. I've barely replied and it's making her even more mad. I wanna be done with...

That seems reasonable. I'm doing nothing but spinning my wheels right now. Have some dates lined up this week, so that'll help too. I'm just tired of getting hit up every day when I'm trying to get away. It's borderline annoying that I can't just ignore her in peace. Haha.

No. If not for her having a bf, who moved in before I moved closer to her, my gut tells me it'd happen, but since he's already kinda anchored down...I don't think it'll happen until 1. I'm better at doing what I need to do. 2. He screws up If at all. These guys here don't seem to think so...

I mean I appreciate the tough love. No bs. But you said all of that without saying what ? Walk away? Tell her to burn in hell? What I'm saying is, I know I had my opportunities and didn't take them...the whole point of the thread is, with my mistakes is this salvageable? IF I turn into a less...

I know. Like I said...I'm definitely working on it. I'm learning the ropes. I'll get there soon, it's just putting all the pieces together for me. I know it's my best chance, I know I need to forget, but for now..it's easier said than done. But I appreciate it and I'm working on it and myself.

Yes. It's actually making me mad that she's doing this today. My natural instinct is to be a jerk, but I just ignored them. Just got another as I'm typing. 3 of them in 20 min. I mean...realistically how long should I just ghost her before I can reach out a little? I mean I know I've gotta let...

Lol dude she was 16 when I met her. We were friends. It turned into feelings by phone. It's only been 1 year since that happened and 6 months of that was spent back with her ex. Another month or two I didn't talk to her. It's been a year since it started, just not a year straight.

...and now I'm getting pictures of a tattoo she just got. Never. Ends.

I'm trying to build confidence via meeting and going out with as many girls as possible. Starting on tinder, and once I get a little more comfortable and learn a little more, I plan on applying to approaching. I live in a college town...it's a gold mine. Meanwhile I'm soaking up every bit of...

That's what I was telling a friend of mine. He's basically given me a lot of the same advice you guys have, I just wanted other opinions, but I know she'll come to me as soon as he screws up or when she's single again. There's no doubt about that. Just like an ex of mine always came back. I've...

Thank you all for the responses. I think I panicked a little because I felt her she wasn't seemingly interested and drawn in like she had been. It got to me. Like I said before, every time I was in town before the move she made the effort to come see me. Since the move, I've barely seen her...

Got it. Take all the attention away. Thanks dude.

That's pretty much what I've been doing. I was doing fine with it until about a week ago, and I don't know, but something just went sideways and I flipped right back into my old ways. She always gives me crap about not talking to her. I just tell her I've been busy. She usually balks at that...

Only one...known her that long but this didn't start till a year ago. Regardless, I see your point and I like the idea of cutting loose. Just kinda hard to do when several times a day something pops up from her. It's like she can't let me go. Like I said, I've been friend zoned plenty of times...