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That's what I like to see Gunwitch!!! Good thing I already paraphrased this from your sight and I read it every night before I go to sleep. I suggest that those srious about pickup do the same. See ya around mASF... my names Playa_Noir there.

SouSuave.com.... indeed... :rolleyes:

If anyone disagrees with you, then they obviously have never left their own house, aka Keyboard Jockies.

Good job! What you call you "mood," we mASF'ers call your "state." Your state is the most important part of being a pick up artist. If you are not in state while trying to game a girl, you will come off as wierd or a "jerk" as you said. You are ABSOLUTELY right about everything coming naturally...

Are you guys serious with this Discovery Channel stuff? LoL :p

Think of it this way... She came to where THEY were... so they were already in this place before her... so who's to say that they weren't already talking to these girls... if she wanted him all to herself, she shoulda invited HIM somewhere, like her home or something... IMHO

Picture this Viper, some girl you just met a bit ago is hanging out with you. You guys are getting along well, but you're not sure if you wanna be with this girl just yet. So while you guys are eating dinner she asks "if she can be your woman." I'm almost sure that would turn me off and you too...

Paying for her meal sounds like supplicating to me... seing as how she has done nothing for you i.e. sex. The rest of your plan sounds good, but make sure that you do something else beside eta, like rent a movie and watch it at hers or your house... that way you guys can get intimate in private...

I say that she's an attention ***** if she was bothered with you talking to other girls. If she flakes on you tonight... Next the **** out of her and never give it another thought. If she really wanted to hookup... she would have arranged another time for you guys too get together that she KNEW...

Asking to be someone's "man" is AFC. If you guys are gonna be an item... all you have to do is spend a little more time with her than you would any of the other girls. Soon she'll start to realize that she likes this attention you're giving her, and she'll either ask you where you guys stand, or...

I don't live in Scottsdale... but I live in Avondale... what's the point of this thread again?

It's funny that any of us trying to better ourselves would even defend the site to this guy. I say that we should just sit back, call some girls, go to the club that his "girl" is at right now, and social proff the hell out of her until we not only kiss close her, but **** close her too. That's...

No love??? Speed seduction is so much more than women. It is based on NLP which you can use in any situation. Perhaps even getting a job. Besides you guys talk about how it makes you lose yourself and act a certain way, but if all you know is SS, you'll never get a girl. You guys talk about real...

All I have to say is... you're lucky as hell that she was there. Just goes to show you... do it right the first time lol. Good job though.

I was just in the same situation. Just watch how she reacts to your movements towards her. Get closer to her and try to get a lot of good eye contact. If she is interested in you she will just stare back and smile or you guys will kiss. If she's not interested she'll just ask you what you want...

I say stick with it. Shy girls are usually more receptive to try new things in bed because they probably don't know much about em and wanna see what its like. Also she is probably just nervous... she will probably surprise you one day and be all energetic, just keep goin out once in a while and...

Nice job Pat... You have made leeaps and bounds my friend... keep up the good work and you'll be a full blown DJ in no time. Oh, I totally agree on the whole switching up your attitude thing, makes you mysterious and also makes you seem unpredictable.

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PatZull... In this short amount of time you've accomplished more than I did in all of highschool... almost :D . Seriously tho... you are doin real well, and I promise from now on i wil try to respond to your posts faster. In the meanime ...Great Job and don't punk out when the females are in...

Most women just take my phone and put there number into it. ;)