Marco Rubio is probably your next president....

[speed dawg]

Just my take. History says Trump will probably falter similar to Giuliani and others who had the steam over a year out from the elections. Trump will likely throw his support behind Rubio as well. He'll easily win Florida and coast over any of these current Democrat clowns.

 

[Mike32ct]

If the primary were this fall, I would say Trump is all set. But it will be very difficult to maintain his lead into 2016. It's possible, but very difficult.

I like Rubio. I'm not sure that he is the strongest candidate, but he's very good.

 

[speed dawg]

If the primary were this fall, I would say Trump is all set. But it will be very difficult to maintain his lead into 2016. It's possible, but very difficult.

I like Rubio. I'm not sure that he is the strongest candidate, but he's very good.

Agree on all.

Unfortunately I don't think a true alpha male (especially white) like Trump is what the country wants right now, even though it's exactly what it needs. Rubio is like a Republican Obama - a well spoken easily electable puppet. He'll slow the sinking of the ship temporarily, but he won't stop it like Trump would.

 

[FairShake]

He'll slow the sinking of the ship temporarily, but he won't stop it like Trump would.

Trump as president would be the biggest mistake America could ever make. And that's an irrevocable fact.

Get used to Hilary or Biden if he enters.

 

[piranha45]

The plebeians and the bleeders will generally vote Democrat.

Thats too big a chunk of the voting populace; I don't see a republican president happening.

The country needs RON Paul more than anything. Ron Paul would permit the poor to starve out, make the middle class become the new poor as he utterly guts the federal bureaucracy, ignore foreign affairs, and balance the budget. He is the absolute capitalist extreme the country needs.

Which is precisely why he was never popular and never will have the slightest chance at getting elected. And that is the truest indicator of how utterly hopeless this country is.

 

[speed dawg]

Trump as president would be the biggest mistake America could ever make. And that's an irrevocable fact.

Yep, because your opinions are always facts, right?

The plebeians and the bleeders will generally vote Democrat.

Thats too big a chunk of the voting populace; I don't see a republican president happening.

The country needs RON Paul more than anything. Ron Paul would permit the poor to starve out, make the middle class become the new poor as he utterly guts the federal bureaucracy, ignore foreign affairs, and balance the budget. He is the absolute capitalist extreme the country needs.

Which is precisely why he was never popular and never will have the slightest chance at getting elected. And that is the truest indicator of how utterly hopeless this country is.

Good points. Sort of scary because I would become one of those new poor. But funny enough, I bet that would solve my 'motivation' problem real quick and in a hurry.

Country needs some real adversity.

 

[Tenacity]

Just my take. History says Trump will probably falter similar to Giuliani and others who had the steam over a year out from the elections. Trump will likely throw his support behind Rubio as well. He'll easily win Florida and coast over any of these current Democrat clowns.

As you know my original plan was to get behind Rand Paul, but Rand Paul has allowed himself to fall totally behind.

This Election Year is one of the weirdest ones I think of my modern voting lifetime (I officially was able to start voting during the Kerry v Bush elections but missed it. I didn't start voting consistently until 2008 and to this day vote for national, state and local).

On the Republican side, Donald Trump, who is a person that I don't know how anybody can take seriously because a big reason he's running is for "show," but he's turned out to be the ONLY Republican Candidate with any type of juice, energy, spunk, and fire that creates that natural EXCITEMENT for a Campaign.

Ben Carson is insanely boring, the guy speaks as if he's about to fall asleep.

Scott Walker and Chris Christie have been totally lost in the shuffle.

Marco Rubio is just playing it safe, as a result, he gets overlooked.

Where in the hell is Mike Huckabee lol? Talk about lost in the shuffle.

Jeb Bush is still right up there and if Trump falls, it's going to Jeb. I'm not sure Trump can maintain the lead going forward though because as someone pointed out yesterday during the Debate Analysis, the LONGER the debate goes on the more Trump is seemingly tired out.

On the Democratic Side, Bernie Sanders (a socialist) is getting all of the energy and excitement but he's no where NEAR beating Hillary in the polls?

It looks like we might end up with a Jeb Bush v.s. Hillary Clinton situation, and Hillary will totally destroy Jeb as all she has to do is tie him to GW Bush.

I'm sorry guys, I hate to say it, Hillary is still going to win

 

[FairShake]

The plebeians and the bleeders will generally vote Democrat.

Yo! :wave:

Ron Paul would permit the poor to starve out, make the middle class become the new poor as he utterly guts the federal bureaucracy, ignore foreign affairs, and balance the budget. He is the absolute capitalist extreme the country needs.

At least you're honest. Most Republicans claim they are doing what's best for the country. Your scenario is closer to the truth.

 

[Bible_Belt]

I hate to say it, Hillary is still going to win

The stupid b!tch came out with her plan for drug law enforcement, and it's more of the same tired old Federal bullsh!t. Drugs are bad, mmm'kay?

Trump says he supports legalizing weed, but Hillary doesn't? What has politics come to when the democrat supports the war on drugs and the republican is against it?

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

This is shaping up to be a battle of the populists. Bernie Sanders may take this. Which would spell doom. But we're doomed anyway. May as well rip the bandaid off quicker rather than spend half a day whining.

 

[samspade]

I don't often watch debates but I watched last night's. It was fun to watch people bite at each other's heels. I don't plan on voting, so I'm pretty unbiased. Here is what I gathered - all subject to change:

Walker, Christie, Kasich, Carson, Paul, Huckabee - non-factors. Am I leaving anyone out? There were so many bodies I lost track. These guys are toast.

Jeb Bush - the "compassionate" choice. A little too compassionate, comes across as a pu$$y. The curse of his dad back to haunt him!

Trump - Entertaining. Says things a lot of people think. Crosses some lines. Doesn't offer any specifics though. Talks in circles a lot. "I'll have the best team..." etc. Failed a shyt test last night re: Fiorina. Passed one re: Bush's wife. Failed to go for the jugular when Bush said his brother kept the country safe (9/11).

Fiorina - Was the only one focused, indignant, sharp, and willing to challenge Donald. Her speech about abortion was riveting, whatever your views on the subject. Good answer about the $10/$20 bill thing ("empty gesture"). I don't know much about her though. Maybe she's too bytchy, but it's funny she comes across more "alpha" than 90% of the men around her. Ain't that America.

Rubio: Young, nervous. Has a good "story" - media love immigrant/minority stories. Handsome I suppose and talked specifics esp. re: foreign policy. May be the most electable.

 

[Bible_Belt]

Bernie Sanders Live Tweets GOP Debate, Gets Bored, Goes Home Early

http://www.npr.org/sections/itsallp...-tweets-gop-debate-gets-bored-goes-home-early

 

[speed dawg]

At least you're honest. Most Republicans claim they are doing what's best for the country. Your scenario is closer to the truth.

The situation he described IS what is best for the country, long term. Irrevocable facts n sh*t

Unfortunately, while we'd get rid of most of the enabled scum, we probably would not be able to get rid of the majority of the lib-tards due to their baby boomer parent trust funds. So the cycle would just start right back over.

That's why Trump's way is the best way, in my irrevocable opinion.

 

[MAYALL]

Yeah, Marco Rubio with his 4% rating is going to be the next President. Thanks for the laugh. :crackup:

Trump is exactly what this country needs. All of the rest are nothing much of a change from the last 30 years.

If none of the leaders are even willing to confront the illegals, then they are essentially worthless to the US Citizens.

Trump is a joke.

 

[logicallefty]

If Fiornia wins I will move to Mexico, Iraq, or Syria. If Hillary wins I'll go play chicken with a train and let the train win. I will never stand behind a woman President. They are too unpredictable.

 

[MAYALL]

If Fiornia wins I will move to Mexico, Iraq, or Syria. If Hillary wins I'll go play chicken with a train and let the train win. I will never stand behind a woman President. They are too unpredictable.

Amen brother, either one of them would destroy our country. Besides, both are annoying as fvck.

 

[speed dawg]

If Fiornia wins I will move to Mexico, Iraq, or Syria. If Hillary wins I'll go play chicken with a train and let the train win. I will never stand behind a woman President. They are too unpredictable.

Agree

Trump says what others are too afraid to say, has the clear majority behind him at the moment, he has more balls than all of the rest put together and he isn't a career politician kissing @sses all day.

You can all that a joke, but you would be sorely wrong. The ****roaches scurry in butt-hurt fear of the man who faces tough issues head-on.

And Agree

Weird thing about this country - as bad as we all think it is, it's still pretty damn good if people are still trying to socially idealize everything, including the presidency. There are people out there that simply want a woman president, just like they wanted a black one, for no other reason than to just do it. Now it seems only a Hispanic guy can really win. Many Republicans want Ben Carson, simply because the dude is a black guy and conservative, as if being black is a prerequisite. When sh*t truly hits the fan, all those social politics go right out the window, along with everything else. That's when you revert back to nature and the real men rise up.

We are about to find out how many real men we have left (and real women for that matter). Because they are all going to vote for Trump.

The methods that the ****roaches are pulling out right now to discredit Trump are mind-boggling. Jealousy knows no limits.

There are plenty of good alpha-male leaders out there, but they just don't care anymore. They are out for themselves and doing their own things. While I can't blame them, our situation today is what happens when they abandon ship.

 

[Tenacity]

I too would prefer Trump to win, but he's going to need to lay out specifics in how he's going to fix the employment and economic situation in this country for example.

The economy is shifting and changing, this is out of the control of who "the President" is and is mainly a result of Global forces, Central Bankers, Congressional Laws, Big Business, Robotics and Technological Innovation.

The fact of the matter is that Robotics and Technology are going to continue to replace jobs, which of course you might say will "shift" new jobs to those who can make the Robots, correct? But that's skilled labor, very specialized skilled labor, and Tyquesha at the McDonald's cashier position that's being replaced by an automatic ordering machine is NOT going to be retrained to make such machine. So where does Tyquesha go?

The divide between the Haves and Have Nots are going to be wider, worser, and it's going to be insane going forward. All I can say is that if you aren't currently positioned in one of these industries, you are going to be left behind:

- Robotics

- Computer Science

- Engineering

- Healthcare as a Doctor, Dentist or RN

- Finance in terms of Financial Services, Banking, Insurance, Accounting. And note that here you want to be in some sort of main Operational Role creating some sort of innovative disruption to traditional financial services. The lower level roles here will TOO be replaced by Technology, just as the traditional Bank Cashier has pretty much already been replaced by Online Banking (Technology).

 

[samspade]

Weird thing about this country - as bad as we all think it is, it's still pretty damn good if people are still trying to socially idealize everything, including the presidency. There are people out there that simply want a woman president, just like they wanted a black one, for no other reason than to just do it. Now it seems only a Hispanic guy can really win. Many Republicans want Ben Carson, simply because the dude is a black guy and conservative, as if being black is a prerequisite. When sh*t truly hits the fan, all those social politics go right out the window, along with everything else. That's when you revert back to nature and the real men rise up.

Agree with you there. There were definitely people that voted for Obama because of the color of his skin. However the alternative, McCain, was terrible. I am convinced he is a nut job and on meds, and he's in many ways more liberal than Obama (free speech "reform," attacking tobacco companies, etc.). If the GOP had presented a better candidate, Obama might have lost. But anyway, that's all history.

I'm always amazed how much sway people believe a president really has. You see it even in the debates. These candidates are all full of shyt. They will enact maybe 1/20th of what they say they will do. It's like people forget about congress and the courts and, more importantly, the private sector. In this regard I'm extremely skeptical of Trump. His views are fine, but he doesn't understand how government works (which is barely at all). Presidents are not that influential, and they should get minimal credit or blame for economic trends.

It makes me wonder if all people secretly yearn for monarchy.

 

[speed dawg]

I too would prefer Trump to win, but he's going to need to lay out specifics in how he's going to fix the employment and economic situation in this country for example.

This is partially answered here:

I'm always amazed how much sway people believe a president really has. You see it even in the debates. These candidates are all full of shyt. They will enact maybe 1/20th of what they say they will do. It's like people forget about congress and the courts and, more importantly, the private sector. In this regard I'm extremely skeptical of Trump. His views are fine, but he doesn't understand how government works (which is barely at all). Presidents are not that influential, and they should get minimal credit or blame for economic trends.

True stuff, samspade. All the president can really do is somewhat guide the ship and employ emergency maneuvers if necessary. He's definitely not steering the thing. The market sets the economy for the most part. I remember those blithering idiots on the news back in 2008, "I don't like what's going on at the gas pumps, so I can't vote Republican!". Lulz. Even worse were those nimrod girls saying they wouldn't have to worry about their mortgage during the Obama election celebration. This country is full of stupidity.

What I like the most about Trump is that he plans to tackle immigration reform (which, the solution is very easy, it's the actual enforcement that's tough), and trade restrictions with other countries. All this can be done from the presidency. Plus, he hopefully won't be appointing any more liberal judges, and he won't be causing race riots. He'll get rid of all the entitled positions up there in DC.