Ok before starting I'd like to state this aint one of those how do I break a virgin chick, its about how to break the ice of a very defensive girl who might have had some ex boyfriend in highschool try and jump her. Yea I've slowly gamed this chick for a wee while like 2 months or so, and I've made out with her a tonne of times its just the final push is where I get stumped hard. And no not the normal ASD crap she shuts out very very hard almost like some vague memory of some guy keeps popping up, Ive tried to talk to her many times But she gets very defensive and tries to talk her way out. Now I also havnt had goodluck with her cause her fvcken mum keeps calling at the wrong times and all my hard work over the last 30 or so minutes of building the heap up go down the drain as she quickly chucks all her clothes back on. Now the thing is if I take it real slow then she slowly opens up but god damn its testing my patience, I swear to god I have to be a magician and be super smooth to get anywhere with her, one slip of the finger one messup while taking her top or bra off and she shuts up hard. I dont mind the practice but its killing me here, I feel like my badboy might break in half in my pants LOL. So I'm asking all the experience guys (not you poser wannabe losers stay the fvck out of this discussion) what would you do, shes very very comfy with me hugging and making out with her its just the building up part where she backs off like a train wreck, never in my life have I found a girl so hard to break have to be super super smooth aye. Any tips welcomed here. BTW she's 20 and I"m the first guy she's actually trying to get with, But like I said before it seems some cvnt ages back tried to jump her in highschool in a very harsh way and she's got her guards up really really high.