Slash Dolo
Senior Don Juan
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- Feb 25, 2014
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In short, it's not worth the time and effort.
First, some backstory. I was dating an HB9 from 2012 to 2014. About two years. I met her through a friend in person. I gamed, I sexed, I conquered. It was that easy. We ended up making it exclusive a few months in.
Fast forward to 2015. I've been single most of the year, dating/having sex with women I've met at parties, through friends, or friends themselves (yeah, it's possible.) The past few months, I've been in a funk; plates have gotten into relationships, and it's been hard to meet new women as my town is quite small. So I turned to Tinder.
First, let me address some things; yes, I'm a pretty good looking guy. I would say I'm an 8 out of 10 if I am being modest. You can believe this or not, but I have no reason to lie over the internet to impress strangers on a message board. And yes, I have humility and am always trying to learn; I've followed guides when things weren't working out, in particular this one: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/3l310a/the_red_pillers_guide_to_online_dating/ ...which gave me much worse results than normal, mind you. I don't recommend following it. Or try it, maybe it'll work for you, idk.
I didn't track my data, but I can give generally accurate estimates here. I changed things up consistently to see what worked the best, from my default picture, to my bio, to my openers and humor/dominance/sexuality. I matched with a little over a hundred women in a 2 month period ranging from 6s to 9.5s in looks. I probably swiped... well, I dunno, a lot. Over a thousand for sure. I swiped only 7s and above generally. Sometimes I'd swipe 6s, maybe 20-30 times out of >1000. I found that a witty/funny opening pertaining to something on their profile had the best chance of getting a response. Asking for their number or something of the sort before asking for a date generally worked better. I think maybe 6-7 girls total messaged me first. Overall my response rate I'd say, with trying different methods, was around 30%. I asked a total of maybe 20 girls out on dates. In some cases I'd get their number, but wouldn't ask them out because they were painfully boring. I had maybe 7 agree to dates. Flakes happened of course. So what's the grand total of dates I went on? Drum roll please...
Two.
I had two dates. One with a 7 (who turned out to be a 6) and one with an 8 (who turned out to be a 7). I didn't try to have sex or really pursue anything with either. But something crazy happened... once we actually met, these girls were incredibly receptive. The texted me after immediately saying what an awesome time they had and how they want to do it again. Even being interested enough to go out in the first place, they weren't as receptive til after. And that's the key. Once the real life meet happens, you're pretty much in if your game is good, and mine is. The problem is getting these flakey attention wh0res OUT in the first place.
Now, we can blame this on a lot of things. My text game, which I think is strong (and yes, I pretty much never texted back immediately to build intrigue). My looks, which I think are strong. My experimentation, which I don't think hampered me too too much. My standards, which I don't think are too high.
So what could I have done to improve my success rate without lowering my standards? Stick to what works for me with openers, for one. Improve my physique and take some shirtless pics for two (I have a fairly athletic build, but still need to drop my body fat a bit; thing is, I was banging a 9 back in March and was 6 lbs. heavier then... this isn't really an issue in real life situations). And be more persistent and put in MORE effort to try and get dates for three.
If there are DJs here who have success with Tinder and online dating, I'd love to hear your methods, how you rate yourself, what you put in your profile, etc. But for me, I'm stumped. I put in more effort to get two dates with incredibly average looking girls than I EVER did getting 9s in reality. For those who haven't tried the Tinder game, I'm not saying don't try it, but rather, don't try it expecting the same success rate as in reality. You'll be horrendously disappointed.
First, some backstory. I was dating an HB9 from 2012 to 2014. About two years. I met her through a friend in person. I gamed, I sexed, I conquered. It was that easy. We ended up making it exclusive a few months in.
Fast forward to 2015. I've been single most of the year, dating/having sex with women I've met at parties, through friends, or friends themselves (yeah, it's possible.) The past few months, I've been in a funk; plates have gotten into relationships, and it's been hard to meet new women as my town is quite small. So I turned to Tinder.
First, let me address some things; yes, I'm a pretty good looking guy. I would say I'm an 8 out of 10 if I am being modest. You can believe this or not, but I have no reason to lie over the internet to impress strangers on a message board. And yes, I have humility and am always trying to learn; I've followed guides when things weren't working out, in particular this one: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/3l310a/the_red_pillers_guide_to_online_dating/ ...which gave me much worse results than normal, mind you. I don't recommend following it. Or try it, maybe it'll work for you, idk.
I didn't track my data, but I can give generally accurate estimates here. I changed things up consistently to see what worked the best, from my default picture, to my bio, to my openers and humor/dominance/sexuality. I matched with a little over a hundred women in a 2 month period ranging from 6s to 9.5s in looks. I probably swiped... well, I dunno, a lot. Over a thousand for sure. I swiped only 7s and above generally. Sometimes I'd swipe 6s, maybe 20-30 times out of >1000. I found that a witty/funny opening pertaining to something on their profile had the best chance of getting a response. Asking for their number or something of the sort before asking for a date generally worked better. I think maybe 6-7 girls total messaged me first. Overall my response rate I'd say, with trying different methods, was around 30%. I asked a total of maybe 20 girls out on dates. In some cases I'd get their number, but wouldn't ask them out because they were painfully boring. I had maybe 7 agree to dates. Flakes happened of course. So what's the grand total of dates I went on? Drum roll please...
Two.
I had two dates. One with a 7 (who turned out to be a 6) and one with an 8 (who turned out to be a 7). I didn't try to have sex or really pursue anything with either. But something crazy happened... once we actually met, these girls were incredibly receptive. The texted me after immediately saying what an awesome time they had and how they want to do it again. Even being interested enough to go out in the first place, they weren't as receptive til after. And that's the key. Once the real life meet happens, you're pretty much in if your game is good, and mine is. The problem is getting these flakey attention wh0res OUT in the first place.
Now, we can blame this on a lot of things. My text game, which I think is strong (and yes, I pretty much never texted back immediately to build intrigue). My looks, which I think are strong. My experimentation, which I don't think hampered me too too much. My standards, which I don't think are too high.
So what could I have done to improve my success rate without lowering my standards? Stick to what works for me with openers, for one. Improve my physique and take some shirtless pics for two (I have a fairly athletic build, but still need to drop my body fat a bit; thing is, I was banging a 9 back in March and was 6 lbs. heavier then... this isn't really an issue in real life situations). And be more persistent and put in MORE effort to try and get dates for three.
If there are DJs here who have success with Tinder and online dating, I'd love to hear your methods, how you rate yourself, what you put in your profile, etc. But for me, I'm stumped. I put in more effort to get two dates with incredibly average looking girls than I EVER did getting 9s in reality. For those who haven't tried the Tinder game, I'm not saying don't try it, but rather, don't try it expecting the same success rate as in reality. You'll be horrendously disappointed.
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