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Is a woman's looks the most important indicator of a her value?

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When looking for long term relationship what about personality compatibility, values and everything else?

I ask this because, when I read Mystery Method he explains that a woman's value is based solely on her looks and a man's value is based solely on the power he can project. He said that this is hardwired into us based on evolution for survival purposes.
 

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It's also hard wired into us for survival purposes to eat until we can't move every time we have an opportunity. Part of being human in post-agricultural post-industrial world is to choose what you want rather than be a slave to instinct.
 

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When looking for long term relationship what about personality compatibility, values and everything else?

I ask this because, when I read Mystery Method he explains that a woman's value is based solely on her looks and a man's value is based solely on the power he can project. He said that this is hardwired into us based on evolution for survival purposes.
A man's value according to who? Friends? Society? When you run your own world, you define your own value. A woman who's valuable in my world is one who's not going to treat me like a piece of 5hit. It's great to fvck a hottie, and it's great to get all excited just by looking at her, but if she's going to be a bytch at the end of the day, I don't want her.

A woman's value (personality-wise) can generally be measured by her looks, but it's never a 100% accurate way of measurement. Many women lower on the looks scale can be total cvnts, and there's a few higher on the looks scale who are total sweethearts.

Figure out what you want in your world, and measure the women you date according to that.
 

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Can't say I agree with Mystery. Initially yeah her looks are what gets your attention, but I have found a lot of women who are blessed with very good genetic looks to be vapid, b*tchy, and entitled. Whereas a woman who may be lower on the looks scale to have better personalities overall, more interesting, etc. As Des said, it all depends on what you are looking for...and what you're willing to put up with.
 

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Mystery is right, but he's talking about Sexual Market Value. A woman's looks are what makes her sexually desirable to the dating market in general, and to men in general. The way she looks is what mainly drives attraction, and determines how valuable a mate she can attract.

When it comes to an individual male, each guy has his own preferences and wants. He may be looking for a relationship, he may be just wanting a one night stand, he may be looking for a friend with benefits. If you are looking for a relationship, obviously there are a lot of traits you are going to be looking for beyond merely looks. A woman's looks are what attracts me, and I've always considered all the other characteristics I want as filters. If she's a wh0re, for instance, that filters her out as a potential LTR.
 

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you guys have been so much help throughout the years. i would like to return the favor. I've recently been studying mbti and socionics. these are systems that identify personality types and compatibility. I think mbti and socionics would be great communication tool for understanding the relationships you are in.
 
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PS mbti and socionics is just something i was interested in lately. it may not be very practical to use. im not sure yet. so if someone is familiar with it, and doesnt like it, feel free to explain why. im still learning more about it. thanks
 

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I like to keep an open mind on everything. But you have to look for systems that have been researched scientifically. As far as I know there has not been any predictive power found in any of these personality typing systems such as astrology or Myers Briggs. People tend to bend the facts to fit the theory. That psychological weakness is what we use when we do cold reads on chicks
 

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I admit it yeah, a woman's looks are a priority for me which gets me into a lot of trouble. Personality, kindness, and loyalty are of course important too and right up there with looks, but it's hard to find a good quality woman who has all these qualities, with little baggage to go along with it.

Pretty girls are usually nothing but drama.
I'm exact same way. Right now I'm with a woman who has really good personality traits, good communicator, long term material for sure. Problem is her looks although attractive don't blow my mind and it causes me to question being single.

But I know it's tough finding great looks matched with a personality you can tolerate so I'm confused. If I just jerk off to porn the feeling subsides and I feel grateful for her but then the urge comes back.
 

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If what we are talking about is mate or romance value with a new prospect, then yes the a certain level of genetic fitness - or at least all the cues that such fitness would entail - is a requirement. If it specifically casual sex, then the cue for intelligence is not needed (in fact, it may be desired that it NOT be there, LOL.) Now, if we are talking about an existing prospect, history and personality can add a lot of brownie points - with the biggest brownie points being awarded to the woman who accepted to merge my DNA with hers. Knowing that wifey will open her legs or mouth, etc., upon my command is worth a whole lot too! And certainly, *reasonable* degradation with age is acceptable - and that does not count a young mother getting fat and staying fat!
 

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Can't say I agree with Mystery. Initially yeah her looks are what gets your attention, but I have found a lot of women who are blessed with very good genetic looks to be vapid, b*tchy, and entitled. Whereas a woman who may be lower on the looks scale to have better personalities overall, more interesting, etc. As Des said, it all depends on what you are looking for...and what you're willing to put up with.
"If you want to be happy for the rest of your life, never make a pretty woman your wife; and if you ask for my personal view, get an ugly girl to marry you."
 

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Is a woman's looks the most important indicator of a her value? For sex, yes. For relationships, no.
 

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A good time to re-post my postulate to address the slight tangent this thread has taken:

"In women, good looks is inversely proportional to quality of character."
 

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For the most part, a woman can't change her looks, but she can change her personality. It's a harsh reality for the ugos out there. Therefore they (ugos) have no other choice than to have top notch personalities if they ever hope to snag a guy any type of quality. Unless, of course, they decide to give in and say fvck it: I don't need a man. And join the rest of the jaded man-hating feminist hoard. Attractive women will ALWAYS have a warm bed to sleep at night. Men are men, and therefore most will forgive and look past other attibutes to get their ultimate goal - penis in an attractive woman's vagina. You're not fvcking their personality. Unless, of course you're "making love" or whatever that's called.

Anyways,there are always ways for someone to improve themselves to attract the opposite sex. Your body for one, what you eat and how/if you excercise can always be changed. Your outlook on life, self-help (like this site?). Mind and body can be altered, your face (other than sugery) really cannot. But you can still change your "look" and your style, how your carry yourself, and your overall PRESENCE.

Improve what you can, always. Give no fvcks about the things you cannot.
 

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A man's value according to who? Friends? Society? When you run your own world, you define your own value. A woman who's valuable in my world is one who's not going to treat me like a piece of 5hit. It's great to fvck a hottie, and it's great to get all excited just by looking at her, but if she's going to be a bytch at the end of the day, I don't want her.

A woman's value (personality-wise) can generally be measured by her looks, but it's never a 100% accurate way of measurement. Many women lower on the looks scale can be total cvnts, and there's a few higher on the looks scale who are total sweethearts.

Figure out what you want in your world, and measure the women you date according to that.
Good points, a KIND and loving woman is the key....but they no longer make those
 

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When looking for long term relationship what about personality compatibility, values and everything else?

I ask this because, when I read Mystery Method he explains that a woman's value is based solely on her looks and a man's value is based solely on the power he can project. He said that this is hardwired into us based on evolution for survival purposes.
Who ever Mystery is, he is 100% right. The ONLY thing guys value is a girls LOOKS. Who cares about relationships values and compatibility. She likes shopping and movies and you don't, but is a hot actress, you are going to stop sleeping with her? You guys are trying to convince yourself of something to make yourselves feel better.

How come you guys always know what to do, how to act, what to say, how to respond, when to phone, when to talk back, when to be sarcastic to a girl when she is not really good looking? But when she is good looking, then the confusion begins....
 
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