Hi, been reading this forum for a while and learning a lot too.

Right now, I am in a dead end LTR and trying too test the waters with other women, getting to know and flirt a bit.

Man, the few women I have gotten a chance at lately were shallow, superficial, provocative teases, arrogant and unable(unwilling) to converse(even about themselfes :0 ) for more than a few minutes.

Now I am no Tom Cruise but I do get women smiling at me and stuff but it's when I can't do anything about it.

I am a decent, with many things going for me, do martial arts, and am not AFC but rather joyful and humourous and has some money and car.

There hasnt been a single woman honestly showing interest at me in years. That sucks.(Oh there was this horny girl last week at the club who was pretty dirty but that wasnt serious.)

Now I have gotten good at this game and can go pretty far seduction wise (workpplace, acquaintances etc).

But why do I feel women have an agenda?
Why do I think that they are only looking to make children and move into a dreamhouse rather that have a good lover? (there are a few horny young high maintenance girls but i dont do that.)

I am applying all the rules I have rad so far and really have a high self esteem and have a great lifestyle but I can't deal with women who are not slighltyinterested by me, my life or what I have to offer.

I know that if I'd dump my LTR girlfriend I could be going all out at this game and be much more succesful like I did years before.

Maybe the fact that I am "testing the waters" has something to do with it and women see that...

Thanks!

yul said:

But why do I feel women have an agenda? Why do I think that the ones that I really want are only looking for the wealthiest guy? Why do I think that they are only looking to make children and move into a dreamhouse?

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You feel that women have an agenda because ... get this they do have an agenda. If you go back and read the bible it will tell you exactly that. Secondly it tells you that women are attracted to fame, money, power etc.... Therefore if your not rich, powerful or famous, you have to create attraction through the methods described in the bible.

Finally you have to make yourself the prize. You have to make her think YOUR the catch and that she has to work to land you. You have to be the prize so that she wants a catch like you to have her children and dreamhouse with. I'm not an expert at explaining how to accomplish this as this is one area that comes naturally to me. Women are always trying to enter LTR's women me, it has to do with the way you carry yourself. But I can pretty much guarantee you that if you go back read the bible, it will tell you how to accomplish this as well.

I'm where I am today not because of the advice that anybody on here gave me but because I went out and read the bible several times. The DJ's here can't stress enough the importance of reading the bible. Its more work than asking a simple question but it will pay off in spades.

Yeah I understand your point but what about having a good lovelife?


Don't women care about this? I think of myself as a very good lover but this doesnt seem to count.

I have many other accomplishments going for me too and have the right attitude and carry myself well.

I dont care about the house the kids and stuff for now, I want a good and fun lovelife and women dont seem interested by love and romance right now.

...the hell

yul said:

Yeah I understand your point but what about having a good lovelife?

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Where in my post did I say anything about not having a good lovelife? I have a great lovelife with my LTR but the reason she wants me as oppose to anyone else is because I am the prize. But you missed the most important part of my post .....

READ THE BIBLE

and stop asking questions that will all come once you've read it. You can't treat a symptom, you have to look at the complete disease. All the pieces of the puzzle will come together once you read the bible.

ps How old are you?

OK I see what you mean and understand it as well.

I always thought that this was a bit hard to manage but will have to look at it more. Thanks!

yul said:

Man, the few women I have gotten a chance at lately were shallow, superficial, provocative teases, arrogant and unable(unwilling) to converse(even about themselfes :0 ) for more than a few minutes.

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Welcome to the real world of the uneducated, sexually "free", Jessica-Simpson-clones :woo: Why did yo think Nick Lachey dumped her ass? It is because of this, that I only try to date foreign women. They are 100 times more intelligent and you can actually have a decent conversation with them. I've been feeling the same way lately and have even wondered why in the world was I ever scared or embarrased to approach these scanks. Decent women are hard to find.!!!

But why do I feel women have an agenda?
Why do I think that they are only looking to make children and move into a dreamhouse rather that have a good lover? (there are a few horny young high maintenance girls but i dont do that.)

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Because they have no dreams, no drive, no vision of the future. They are living life one day at a time, and with no direction, so they have variuos agendas, in fact everyone should have an agenda. The problem is not the agenda but the intention behind it. Unless the intenation is pure and beneficial to all parties, you feel like there's an agenda.

I do get the feeling though that you have been stuck in a world of fairy tales for too long, in a Matrix of sorts, and have just been awakened and you don't like what you see. Get used to it!! The world is not a fairy tale, and women are not little princesses who are waiting for their prince to rescue them and make soft tender love to them. MacAvoy said it right, you have to become the prize and choose the right woman.

well I tend to disagree slightly.

I have been out of the fantasy world for a long time.

Women do have a sense of vision of the future but its more likely to be one with a "house", a "SUV", with "children" and then they they "divorce" and they "scam" they ex thru court and move on.

Aren't there any "mature" women that are just looking for a good time and a good lover and life partner?

The only ones like this so far are the ones I have met who have been diverced and already have children...but I am only 30 so it's not a good match.

The Bible ... says a corpse stood up and started walking and talking. So its stories are sometimes somewhat ... flawed. I would consider other sources.

And I seriously doubt that the bible would condone DJing.

Friendly Otter said:

The Bible ... says a corpse stood up and started walking and talking. So its stories are sometimes somewhat ... flawed. I would consider other sources.

And I seriously doubt that the bible would condone DJing.

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:crackup:

That HAS to be the thickest post ever! I love it!

The DJ Bible, donkey: http://www.jbspencer.com/djb/

Duh, you don't think I was joking?

"Thick," what a cool way of saying dumb. Dude, you like, rock!