“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

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Summer Plans Dilema

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Last year, i went to this summer camp at Stanford University called EPGY and took this Music Theory thing. I met a girl there, and we "fell in love." Things were perfect, blah blah blah, you know, the usual infatuated AFC crap...but we were both convinced that we were "in love." The problem: She lives in Georgia and i live in California. After camp, we could not see each other. We're both smart kids, so we both acknowledged the fact that a long distance relationship was not practical - so we both tried to move on. Ever since then, she's had a steady relationship with this other dude and I've been a swinger (dated, kissed, and/or made out with 3 girls this academic year, along with flirting with just about any girl i wanted to flirt with, which is much better than my former AFC self)

I would really like to see her again, and I can. I applied to EPGY for creative writing (im thinking about writing a book) for the coming summer vacation and got accepted. But, I also applied to this music camp thing they have at Brown University (Summer@Brown) and got accepted. The schedules of Stanford and Brown overlap, so I have to choose one or the other.
I've always had a passion for music, so i thought Brown's music thing would be fun.

Now I have to choose - Stanford or Brown? For stanford i can see the girl again and take creat. writing, and for brown i can further pursue my musical passion.

I know, I know. I should f*cking get over her and go with Brown, right? I just think it would be nice to see her again. She's MUCH better than the girls at my school (total p*ssy drought here), so the scarcity factor kicks in.

Help me, Don Juans!
 

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its quite possible that
a) she won't be at the camp again
b) her and her new dude are really close, and it won't matter anyways
c) you'll meet just as great a girl at brown

don't forget, at the end of camp you'll still be hundreds of miles apart, except that if you get close again its going to be REALLY hard to leave her

do what you know you should
 

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Go to brown and meet new women.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Originally posted by Mr. Debonaire
b) her and her new dude are really close, and it won't matter anyways
c) you'll meet just as great a girl at brown

don't forget, at the end of camp you'll still be hundreds of miles apart, except that if you get close again its going to be REALLY hard to leave her

do what you know you should
 

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It depends. Think deep down, are you really going to the Stanford one because you want to take the creative writing class, or is part of it also that you want to see her again? If any of the reason you signed up for that class was to see her again, then go with Brown.

Make the decision based on which program you would rather do, not the girl. You're not paying thousands of dollars (that's how much most of those programs are) to go hang out with that girl. Plus, she still has a boyfriend. On top of all of that, as someone else said, you will still be thousands of miles apart when the camp is over.


Oh, and speaking of summer@Brown, I also got a letter from them about that, and was considering applying until I found out how expensive it is, heh.
 

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dont mess with your futur just to get a girl who you will eventualy forget any ways ( the % of people who actualy meet their future spouse in HS is in the fiith decimal place)
 

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Here's a convo i had with my friend about this:

): how close were you guys
): if you actually had a summer love that was mutual i'd say go for it
BaDb0y rocker (8:13:29 PM): we were convinced it was love
BaDb0y rocker (8:13:31 PM): and i fingered her
): yeah well...
): then you can do it again
BaDb0y rocker (8:13:52 PM): lol
): boyfriends aren't roadblocks they're speed bumps
BaDb0y rocker (8:14:32 PM): shes pretty damn close to her bf...sexually active..
): well hella sexually active relationships aren't always strong
): its just compensating for something else
BaDb0y rocker (8:15:10 PM): the only reason she hooked up with him in da first place was cuz he's alot ****in like me lol
): well
): **** then you're a made man
BaDb0y rocker (8:16:01 PM): well i think it is a pretty strong relationship...she turned down the chance to make out with this other GIRL because it wud be "cheating"
): he's a placeholder
): it's time to ****ing collect on that **** nigga
): cheating on YOU
): maybe thats how she sees it
): hahaha....
): well no regrets
): think of yourself in september
): first day of school man
): will you regret not going to brown
): or not going to stanford
BaDb0y rocker (8:17:02 PM): we talk
BaDb0y rocker (8:17:04 PM): but the tone
BaDb0y rocker (8:17:08 PM): is a just friends kinda tone
): if she's still into you, you have something to work with
): well of course she feels modest she has a bf
): well
): personally for me
): i wouldn't regret skipping brown
): however I would regret skipping stanford
): because brown, I'd know what I missed
): i'd miss a music theory seminar
): stanford, I'll never know what could have happened that summer
): and i'll wonder what could have been until i die
 

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your friend is living under the delusion that life is a fairy tale

whether or not you hook up with this girl again, you still live a huge distance from each other, she will probably still go back home to her boyfriend, and you'll be no better off then when you started, except probably worse for the heartache

find a new girl mate
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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another convo, different friend:

BaDb0y rocker (8:40:58 PM): the deadline for registration is soon
): if she wasnt in the picture
): which would you rather go to?
): stanford or brown
BaDb0y rocker (8:42:26 PM): i guess brown..
BaDb0y rocker (8:42:49 PM): but if she wasnt in the picture
BaDb0y rocker (8:42:56 PM): my ambition for musicianship
BaDb0y rocker (8:43:03 PM): and my own worth as a musician
BaDb0y rocker (8:43:11 PM): would not be where it is now
BaDb0y rocker (8:43:21 PM): and im goin to brown for a music thing...
BaDb0y rocker (8:43:32 PM): so if she wasnt in the picture at all...i dunno
): woah
): its like a double motivation kind of thing
): you are nearly doing music for her sake
): but to do music you'd be away from her
): its like a movie
BaDb0y rocker (8:49:36 PM): yeah i guess u cud say that
BaDb0y rocker (8:49:40 PM): goddammit lol
BaDb0y rocker (8:49:46 PM): any girl wud wish she lived my life
BaDb0y rocker (8:49:49 PM): all da drama lol
): LOL
BaDb0y rocker (9:00:28 PM): man wtf do i do
): if i were you, i'd go to stanford
BaDb0y rocker (9:01:20 PM): why
): so i'd have a story to tell
BaDb0y rocker (9:01:47 PM): wow
): i wouldnt miss out that kind of meeting with an old girlfriend
): its one of those things..
BaDb0y rocker (9:02:23 PM): a story to tell
BaDb0y rocker (9:02:30 PM): and to think id be going to creative writing
BaDb0y rocker (9:02:40 PM): and for an assignment we have to write a story
): "you never regret going, only not going."
): it would be perfect
): write about that lol
BaDb0y rocker (9:03:05 PM): wut if things **** up
BaDb0y rocker (9:03:12 PM): and she loved her bf too much
): you'd still catch a ride on that emotional rollercoaster
BaDb0y rocker (9:03:49 PM): which is
BaDb0y rocker (9:03:51 PM): what music is all about
BaDb0y rocker (9:04:21 PM): u put up a strong argument
BaDb0y rocker (9:04:23 PM): but
BaDb0y rocker (9:04:29 PM): the things the Don Juans say..
 

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Originally posted by gRiM999
Last year, i went to this summer camp at Stanford University called EPGY and took this Music Theory thing. I met a girl there, and we "fell in love." Things were perfect, blah blah blah, you know, the usual infatuated AFC crap...but we were both convinced that we were "in love." The problem: She lives in Georgia and i live in California. After camp, we could not see each other. We're both smart kids, so we both acknowledged the fact that a long distance relationship was not practical - so we both tried to move on. Ever since then, she's had a steady relationship with this other dude and I've been a swinger (dated, kissed, and/or made out with 3 girls this academic year, along with flirting with just about any girl i wanted to flirt with, which is much better than my former AFC self)

I would really like to see her again, and I can. I applied to EPGY for creative writing (im thinking about writing a book) for the coming summer vacation and got accepted. But, I also applied to this music camp thing they have at Brown University (Summer@Brown) and got accepted. The schedules of Stanford and Brown overlap, so I have to choose one or the other.
I've always had a passion for music, so i thought Brown's music thing would be fun.

Now I have to choose - Stanford or Brown? For stanford i can see the girl again and take creat. writing, and for brown i can further pursue my musical passion.

I know, I know. I should f*cking get over her and go with Brown, right? I just think it would be nice to see her again. She's MUCH better than the girls at my school (total p*ssy drought here), so the scarcity factor kicks in.

Help me, Don Juans!
I also signed up for EPGY, and a few other programs.

My advice: you already KNOW what you want to do, so go for it!













What was the FIRST thing which crossed your mind when I said: "You KNOW what you WANT to do, so go for it.?"

Pursue it.
 

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Re: Re: Summer Plans Dilema

Originally posted by Fitch
I also signed up for EPGY, and a few other programs.

My advice: you already KNOW what you want to do, so go for it!













What was the FIRST thing which crossed your mind when I said: "You KNOW what you WANT to do, so go for it.?"

Pursue it.
But..what i want to do is contradictory to the logic of the don juans here
 

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Go to Brown. You said you'd rather go to Brown if it weren't for her. Sure, she may have "inspired" you a little musically, but it's not like you didn't have interest in music before you met her.

Plus, you even said yourself that you were just "convinced" you were in love. That means deep down you know you really weren't. You can't be in love with someone you just met after a couple of weeks. Plus, she has a boyfriend. Sure, sometimes it is possible to break the girl away from him, but many times you can't do that. You have to remember that even if you choose to be with her at Stanford, there's still a good chance nothing will happen between the two of you.

So, you have to forget about her and leave her out of the picture in your decision.
 

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It's you GOING to summer college, not them.

What ever crossed your mind when I asked you that question is your desire.

Go for it. It's life. It is meant to be lived, not ruled (by other people's decisions).

Go live it. Do what you want to do.

That is my logic, my logic > logic > DJ Logic.

Do the math.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Re: Re: Re: Summer Plans Dilema

Originally posted by gRiM999
But..what i want to do is contradictory to the logic of the don juans here
*shakes head*

listen mate, i feel you on this (hence the number of responses from me)

the fact that you are still posting conversations to me suggests that your trying to justify your want to go to standford in OUR eyes.

fukk that

you don't need our approval, life is all about the choices we make. i would suggest going to stanford, because after all this time your still trying to get us to to tell you to go there. if you don't go, your going to be pissed at yourself. go to stanford, see the girl. if things work out, great. if not, you'll know that it wasn't meant to be anyways, and you'll learn an important life lesson about putting your interests above girls.

going to stanford is the only thing thats going to make YOU happy. so go

love deb
 

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and yes, i realize this is completely contradictory to my earlier posts.

i changed my mind. sue me :p
 

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go to brown n u'll forget about her n ull have more fun and you'll learn something more important

go to stanford you'll learn from your mistake, also a very important lesson in life, good luck
 

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Originally posted by Nexxus
go to brown n u'll forget about her n ull have more fun and you'll learn something more important

go to stanford you'll learn from your mistake, also a very important lesson in life, good luck
How can you say where he will have more fun?

Grim..:

Go where you WANT to go. This decision is NOT that important. It is MERELY summer school, not undergrad.
 
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