i realize that approaches are an important part of being a don juan, for the mere fact that you cant DJ any women if you dont any...

but i just finished watching Goldfinger, and i realized that 007 is the quintessential don juan, but as far as i know, doing approach after approach and getting insane amounts of phone numbers and pick up skills will never make me as smooth and confident with the C+F technique that he has...

does anyone else feel me here? (approaching is only effective to a certain point before you need to really know what to do with women rather than getting their phone number right off the bat...)

if im wrong, what exactly are the purposes of approaching, other than getting phone numbers and learning to face rejection?

You can do anything you put your mind to!

man! The thing that you dont understand is that after doing approach after approach you WILL become as smooth and as confident as that! You might not think that its possible AT THIS PRESENT MOMENT, but its like riding a BMX bycicle... when u havnt doen it before you say to yourself "d@mn!!! how do they do all those fancy tricks? I'll never be able to be as good as that!" ... then you get yourself a bike and start practacing... and the more u practice, then better and easiyer is is for you to do all these ticks etc.... and sooner or later you WILL be as good as those guys that you never thought that you would be able to be as good as.

shagnscoop said:

getting insane amounts of phone numbers and pick up skills will never make me as smooth and confident with the C+F technique that he has...

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So in your case you THINK that you wont be able to be like him, but the truth is, is that with enough practise u CAN be like him! To link YOU situation with MY BMX story, HE is like those guys that did all those tricks with the bikes and u thought that you will never be able to do those tricks.... and with practice, u WERE able to do all those tricks, just like with enough practice u WILL be able to be as smooth etc with girls.


And the more rejection you get, the easiyer it will be for u to face rejection in the future, and the easiyer it will be for you to appraoch girls too.... I read once on the SoSuave site that rejection is the key to sexual prosparity.


So overall what i am saying is that instead of telling yourself that you will never be able to be like him, rather STRIVE to be like him.... practice and do what it taked to become like he is iin the movie... and i promise you, that with enough practice and experiance, you WILL be able to be "as smooth" etc as he is in the movie.

Goodluck, and i hope this helped you

Laterz...

Originally posted by shagnscoob
i realize that approaches are an important part of being a don juan, for the mere fact that you cant DJ any women if you dont any...

but i just finished watching Goldfinger, and i realized that 007 is the quintessential don juan, but as far as i know, doing approach after approach and getting insane amounts of phone numbers and pick up skills will never make me as smooth and confident with the C+F technique that he has...

does anyone else feel me here? (approaching is only effective to a certain point before you need to really know what to do with women rather than getting their phone number right off the bat...)

if im wrong, what exactly are the purposes of approaching, other than getting phone numbers and learning to face rejection?

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If you think of it as a tennis game, approaching is the serve. You can get a fantastic service game, but you will still need to have good all round skills in the rest of the game.
Approaching is how to MEET women in a way that most people can't. You will then need to learn how to handle yourself and make a good long term impression with them.

The more you approach, the better you will get at it. Simple. You'll have to approach alot to get alot of female contact. Simple. Once contact is made, interaction begins. Simple.

To become smooth, suave, confident with women you'll have to work IN the field. Because only in the field is where experience is gained. So in short the purpose of approaching is experimenting and by doing so learning how to be better.

I have a question for you. How would you suggest to become better with women, aside from approaching?

Originally posted by shagnscoob
if im wrong, what exactly are the purposes of approaching, other than getting phone numbers and learning to face rejection?

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approaches to me are fun, I'm going to have fun, and having fun to me is making others have fun, that's an important thing to remember for me. and for the rejection part, that didn't last very long for me, I found that, with my approach, rejection isn't there. All the women I walk up to and talk to end up smilling and laughing. this is a positive thing pretty much no matter how you slice it. They all feel like they have something, even the ones that aren't single, they feel like guys are very interested in them and it makes them feel good. So the fear of rejection quickly goes out the window, for me it happend after just a few approaches, even though they all said they weren't single.

Originally posted by SheepSter
The more you approach, the better you will get at it. Simple. You'll have to approach alot to get alot of female contact. Simple. Once contact is made, interaction begins. Simple.

To become smooth, suave, confident with women you'll have to work IN the field. Because only in the field is where experience is gained. So in short the purpose of approaching is experimenting and by doing so learning how to be better.

I have a question for you. How would you suggest to become better with women, aside from approaching?

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well i know that alot can come out of relationships that have already been established by other means, for example, worksite (just to learn how to be slick, not to actually do anything because thats bad news anyhow) and at school, and stuff like that.


what im trying to say is, in the bible, jwhite17 goes up to women, introduces himself and asks if they are single...

how can that possibly be helpful at all? your not learning how to be C+F your not learning anything except getting over rejection, and theres better more efficient ways to do that anyway...
what gives?

Try it first before you judge. If you start approaching you will learn alot about interaction dynamics with women. But this is really something that is best to be experienced and not to put in words.

And when you start approaching first you only open and eject to get used to it. After a while you open, make rapport, #close and eject.

Also important is that you actually meet new people. And you will realize that when approaching, rejection doesn't exist. And keep in mind that only few are truly good with C+F. It sounds that you want to make C+F the fundament to build your game on. It should be used as supplement too your game. Why don't you just start approaching and find out for yourself what gives.

Originally posted by shagnscoob
well i know that alot can come out of relationships that have already been established by other means, for example, worksite (just to learn how to be slick, not to actually do anything because thats bad news anyhow) and at school, and stuff like that.


what im trying to say is, in the bible, jwhite17 goes up to women, introduces himself and asks if they are single...

how can that possibly be helpful at all? your not learning how to be C+F your not learning anything except getting over rejection, and theres better more efficient ways to do that anyway...
what gives?

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It'll build
1. Confidence and fearlessness - he is used to doing approaches
2. Get him into interactions with many women (the ones who reciprocate anyway)
3. He may get lucky and get laid this way.

wouldnt it help alot more to actually approach women using conversation of some sort rather than 'hi are you single?'

for some reason, my game works well and i dont approach at all, as in, all the women i meet are from parties and they are hanging around with my friends and i introduce myself while talking to a group of people...

or most recently i went to the office of my employer over the summer and its a youth employment program so of course theres young beautiful women running around everywhere...



i was also reading an article about C+F and how alot of guys dont use it right, because they use the "you cant hang wit dis" type of C+F rather than the "Did you miss me?"
bond obviously has the "Did you miss me?" technique.

can you really learn the difference between the two from approaching? alot of things would be learned better through proper education first, and only afterward proper practice