I have my own ideas of how most Super Hot Babes think, but I'm interested to hear what ya'll have to say.

What turns them on? What turns them off? Do they all have baseline qualifications for a guy? Are they high or low? Do you think you meet them?

Do you think a LTR is possiible with a SHB. What about the nagging problem that plagues most SHBs... a BOYFRIEND? Should you work to get rid of him? Move in on her friends? How can you ask her to introduce you to her friends without sounding desparate?

A million more questions abound, but I will leave you to your own devices!

Come on, I want to hear from all of you!

i think aSuper Hot Babe will just automaticly go for the guy who is the most in demand, and because she is used to guys letting her wlak all over them, she will expect every guy to do this and do anything for her.

genrally they are the same as other girls, they are only human, the diffrence arises because of how people have treated them in the past, they just expect people to treat them better and think they come first, they are often jerks because they are used to getting away with being like this due to their looks.

Originally posted by Duke
I have my own ideas of how most Super Hot Babes think, but I'm interested to hear what ya'll have to say. What turns them on? What turns them off? Do they all have baseline qualifications for a guy? Are they high or low? Do you think you meet them? Do you think a LTR is possiible with a SHB. What about the nagging problem that plagues most SHBs... a BOYFRIEND? Should you work to get rid of him? Move in on her friends? How can you ask her to introduce you to her friends without sounding desparate? A million more questions abound, but I will leave you to your own devices!

Come on, I want to hear from all of you!

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whats ur idea on this?

Check_Mate, I think you are onto something. I haven't tried dating many average girls, but the ones I HAVE dated have been RELIABLE. They showed up when they were supposed to. They relinquished control to me.

The SHBs I've encountered seem to think that it's their RIGHT to flake on you at a moment's notice and just be like "Teehee, oops, something came up" and expect you to not punch them through a wall.

I've also noticed that many SHBs walk around with what can best be described as a "haughty scowl" on their faces, like the sun is perpetually in their eyes. It makes them less approachable and less attractive.

Pook said something in reply to me a LONG time ago which took me some time and experience to finally grasp. He said...

"Don't try to figure women out, there is nothing there."

This observation of Pook's is taken to an extreme with super hot women.

Super hot women, particularly in American society, are frought with all kinds of problems that primarily stem from the fact that they have grown up with everyone eating out of their hand. And, as Duke already mentioned, it makes them LESS ATTRACTIVE!

Anymore, I have pretty much decided that women should be just hot enough to get you hot for them and anything beyond that just causes problems. A lot of guys chase hotter and hotter women because their goal stops being about the enjoyment they get themselves from the women they are with and the admiration they get from other guys (their friends, fathers, strangers) because of the attractiveness of the women they are with becomes more important.

To put it simply, life becomes a lot easier when you are in it for what YOU want rather than how you look to everyone else.

Duke wrote:
What about the nagging problem that plagues most SHBs... a BOYFRIEND?

It's the same as any other chick that is merely attractive as opposed to super hot. They mention a boyfriend, they usually always will have a guy who they CALL a boyfriend. That's nothing different from normal, is it? And this "boyfriend" may or may not be an obstacle. Plenty has been written here and elsewhere in seduction academia over the years about how to deal with that. Do some searches.

My suggestion to you, Duke, if you are really into chasing the super-hot chicks is to study Mystery Method. He has developed a game that works really well for him in dealing with the kind of women you are talking about and a lot of what he has discovered is stuff that anyone can learn or at least serve as a launch-pad to develop you own game. But, I suspect that you will eventually come to the same conclusions about this subject as I eventually did. Have fun in the meantime, though .

-PDX

My replies will be headed off by a ">>>"

Originally posted by SexPDX
Pook said something in reply to me a LONG time ago which took me some time and experience to finally grasp. He said...

"Don't try to figure women out, there is nothing there."

>>>There is nothing there? Did he mean that women are vapid creatures who aren't even worth the trouble of figuring out since they are so fickle?

This observation of Pook's is taken to an extreme with super hot women.

Super hot women, particularly in American society, are frought with all kinds of problems that primarily stem from the fact that they have grown up with everyone eating out of their hand. And, as Duke already mentioned, it makes them LESS ATTRACTIVE!

>>>Yes, yes, it does. I sort of have a problem talking to UGs, cuz I just don't like to , but I get really pissed off when SHBs get special treatment. For example, I was driving on campus today, and this dude in front of me was speeding by all the crosswalks.

>>>Then suddenly he stops, and whaddayaknow, its a SHB. He lets her pass just because of her looks. What an AFC. What's worse is that SHBs EXPECT this kind of behavior, and if guys don't behave like Mr. A$$hole in front of me, then the SHB gets even more b!tchy than normal. Like she DESERVES all this supplication.

Anymore, I have pretty much decided that women should be just hot enough to get you hot for them and anything beyond that just causes problems.

>>>I just may arrive at that same conclusion, Mr. SexPDX. Girls in the 7.5-8 range usually have a good head on their shoulders, a stronger sense of realit, they keep their commmitments, and they are altogether more grateful to be with you than SHBs are. They are girlfriend material. That's not to say I wouldn't just fukk them for ONS, but I imagine that keeping a SHB as a girlfriend is a constant battle against AMOGS and the girl's own bad habits and infedelity. I don't think it'd be worth it. I'd much rather fukk the goodlooking trash for a night and then disappear forever or make her a FB.


A lot of guys chase hotter and hotter women because their goal stops being about the enjoyment they get themselves from the women they are with and the admiration they get from other guys (their friends, fathers, strangers) because of the attractiveness of the women they are with becomes more important.

>>>Yeah, I getcha.

To put it simply, life becomes a lot easier when you are in it for what YOU want rather than how you look to everyone else.

>>>No doubt.

Duke wrote:
What about the nagging problem that plagues most SHBs... a BOYFRIEND?

It's the same as any other chick that is merely attractive as opposed to super hot. They mention a boyfriend, they usually always will have a guy who they CALL a boyfriend. That's nothing different from normal, is it? And this "boyfriend" may or may not be an obstacle. Plenty has been written here and elsewhere in seduction academia over the years about how to deal with that. Do some searches.

>>>Right, but wouldn't the girl simply NOT mention the boyfriend if she was interested in the first place? Maybe its a shyt-test, but then again, maybe she's trying to say "this ain't happening." I don't want to waste time on girls who aren't interested. I'm not into "creating" attraction. I subscribe to Anti-Dump's machine.



My suggestion to you, Duke, if you are really into chasing the super-hot chicks is to study Mystery Method. He has developed a game that works really well for him in dealing with the kind of women you are talking about and a lot of what he has discovered is stuff that anyone can learn or at least serve as a launch-pad to develop you own game. But, I suspect that you will eventually come to the same conclusions about this subject as I eventually did. Have fun in the meantime, though .

>>>I've always looked at MM with a skeptical eye, because Mys relies heavily on his magic routines, and I don't want to be an entertainer to lay chicks. I just wouldn't feel congruent with myself.

>>>I just want to come off as a cool, ****y, funny, playful, trustworthy guy who goes after what he wants. My aspiration is NOT to be the next Harry Houdini. I don't think hot girls are even WORTH performing for. In my eyes, that's supplication, and I wouldn't feel right 'levitating' just to get puzzy. I want girls to HONESTLY like me for who I am and who I am becoming. I get that this works for Mystery, because he honestly DOES enjoy being a performer and the center of attention. I'd much rather swoop in, make a fantastic first impression, get the girl laughing and using her imagination, and then lead her mind into sexual territory and just go complete GWM sexual state and finish it from there.

>>>I'm not into playing the tapdancer, and from what I understand this is what MM deals with... being the alpha of the room (via magic for Mys) and taking your pick of the girls in the room at the end of the night. Then again, rockstars, actors, and other performers do the same shyt as Mystery all the time... the only difference is that Mystery admits that he schemed to bang hot girls from the start.

>>>Any more thoughts on MM?
-PDX

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Bump... no more to say?

I always seem to waste my time going out on dates with SHBs, since they are all shallow morons who expect me to fall over backwards for every whim they have. I've come to the conclusion that 99% of SHBS are in it for the money or prestige. Trophy wives...that's all they are

So last time I went out with an SHB...(she wasnt too S, but she thought she was), she expected me to get a cab to her place, pick her up, and then drive all the way to town. No frickin way.
I told her to meet me halfway and we'd walk to town

She was 20 minutes late. Strike one.

So on the walk down she was hanging off of me like weve known each other for years. Not a big fan of that...reminds me of AFCs hanging off hot girls. Now I know how the hot girl feels. Strike two.

We then go to the bar, she orders a triple amaretto sour, and expects ME to pay for it. Strike three!

I am vehemently against paying for anything of the girls on a first date. It's an opportunity for us to get to know each other, not a free drink at my expense. So when her drink came, I asked if I could taste it, and proceeded to down the entire thing.

Her: That was my drink!

Me: I'm paying for it, so it's really mine

Then I take her to the trashy dance bar and ditch her there.


Moral of the story: SHBs are NOT worth getting to know mentally. Pook is right, there is nothing behind their facade.
Just screw them and kick them out of your bed when you're done; their venomous scowl on life should be confined to the streets!

Originally posted by Luveno
their venomous scowl on life should be confined to the streets!

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HAHAHAHA, wow you really busted me up with that, Luveno. Your example was great... and very typical of what I have experienced of SHBs.

Duke, I think you will find reality to be that if you are serious about being a guy who gets super hot chicks (as opposed to a merely competent DJ with a good PU skill set) you are going to have to make some rather profound lifestyle changes.

Short of being a professional athlete or a rock star, it's a tall order to get the kind of women you are talking about with the kind of consistency I assume you have in mind. Some guys have done it by having some sort of gimmick that makes them a mini-ceebrity. Mystery is to an extent an example of this, but his game has developed into something that goes above and beyond the gimmicky aspect of it.

You may decide, as have I, that all of this is more trouble than it's worth and that what you get out of doing it is illusory. Even the greatest guys in the game that I know of are not major attractors of super hot women.

I am not trying to sewer you out of it if you are really committed to the idea but I am trying to give you some perspective in order to make you realize exactly what you are talking about.

Another thing I can tell you if you are serious about this is to change the way you use these forums. Seek out the few people who you know are doing what you are talking about (which is reallly only a small handfull of guys in the community) and use mostly the contributions of THOSE GUYS as a resource for information. They do not tend to post much anymore mostly because the time it takes to develop a skill set for PU of SHB's is prohibitive to posting on forums, not to mention the fact that the forums invariably lose when competing with SHB's for the PUA's attention. If you ask me, women are time-consuming enough even when the ones you are involved with are NOT supermodel bombshells! LOL!

So I guess my Jerry Springer final thought is that you either need to stop pipe-dreaming about SHB's or get serious, put together a realistic plan and do the exercises.

-PDX

The only real SHB I've dated in my life is one that I'm dating right now. My thoughts about her are mixed -- at first I thought she might be scamming me after she asked to 'borrow' money for a shirt and later for a vibrator (I wouldn't give her the $$$ for a vibrator). But, she actually paid me back and even bought me food later. She has a boyfriend, but I hear she cheats on him all the time. I've gone for a kiss both times we went out, but got ASD for a fricken kiss. I'll give her one more chance before I cut her loose.

Honestly I can see why guys get addicted to dating SHBs, it's like driving an Escalade with 24-inch spinners, people just look at you differently for 'possessing' her. But honestly, when we are all alone, I'm just as turned on by a HB7 I'm dating who I'm actually having sex with.

I think that above a certain level, there is really no distinction in how looks will turn us on in the bedroom. The reason why guys want the SHBs is just to create respect and envy in those around him. In my opinion, this kind of validation is worth nothing in the end because you'll never be convinced you've done enough of it, as Gunwitch says.

If a SHB treats you well, fine, but I wouldn't let her get away with anything a regular hot chick wouldn't get away with.

btw that thing about the drink was hilarious

-Dan