DJ's:

Some years back in my BAFC days, (as opposed to my soon to be RAFC days) I saw a super hot "10" HB. The total package - supermodel hot.

The kind that everyone looks at, even the chicks. She was and is possibly the hottest woman I have ever seen. Traffic stopping hot. Really, I'm not kidding.

So, she is just standing there all alone.

This is a long story which I will shorten considerably.

I cold approached her and got her name. I was normally way Way WAY too chickenshyt for that, but it was like I was compelled to do it. I just walked up to her. She was spellbindingly hot.

I saw her out again the next night and she offered me her number, without me even asking. Clearly I was pleased.

We went out the next night and I had some good groping of the T&A. It was quite magnificent.

Then, she started a telephone campaign. She called me almost everyday, sometimes 2 or 3 times, just to chat, and say she was thinking of me. I called her plenty as well.

But she NEVER seemed to have the time to actually see me in person. Always some excuse.

Eventually I got tired of it and did not call her anymore, and she stopped calling me.

What in the flying F*ck is up with that behavior??? If she was not interested, why call me twice a day? And if she was interested, f*cking go out with me then.

Somebody explain this - it has puzzled me for years.

A girl is not interested in you just because she calls you. And she definitely does not become interested because you call her. As a matter of fact, almost all use of phone besides setting up the date is a turn off in the beginning relationship.

You are a man michelangelo. A MAN.

You don't have time for sissy talking on the phone. She has girlfriends to talk on the phone with. If she needs a man, she would call begging you to take her out, not call asking for your opinion on pantyliner. Whatever it was you talked about on the phone, it did not make whatever relationship you had ANY better.

Watch, the phone is a tool that when you are on, you are confined to. You sit there and listen and talk until the other person wants to go. It keeps you there, continuing conversation without the physical aspect that converation was made to have. Conversation was meant to have a physical aspect.

What you did was instead of being a man and caring enough about the physical aspect, you forgot about the physical aspect and settled with less just for conversation with the woman.

NEVER SETTLE FOR LESS.

By talking on the phone, it makes you look like you have nothing better to do in your free time than SIT THERE and dwinding the phone cord while she talks. She's a girl, she can do that for hours and have a FUN time. But if you're a man, action is what thrills you, not this crappy mushy talk about stuff.

Man oh man, you should have dropped her from when she wouldn't make time to see you in real person. Here's a reality check.

A WOMAN WILL MAKE TIME IF THEY ARE TRULY INTERESTED.

You'd only do the same. You would find time to take a women out, expect her to find time for you to take her out. That is a major part of what you did wrong. Instead of being confident and just moving on or telling her that you don't want a phone relationship, you let it carry on UNTIL you got tired of it.

Notice how the phone stops ringing when your finger quits dialing? You are no longer under her control. She no longer feels the control that she used to. If only you had done it sooner.

To sum it up, you were not and never a challenge to the woman. You were not confident when it came to her. And you have no SELF-CONTROL at all. In fact, you even called her.

SHE HAS YOUR NUMBER.

You never need to JUST TALK to a woman who has your number. Either way, there were many mistakes in what you did. I hope the long story doesn't have as many. But from this, I hoped you learn what you need to do in the dating world.

Find out of a woman is interested early on. If she isn't, drop her. If she has some weird behavior after the first few dates, drop her. If she becomes inconsistent, then by all means man, drop her. She isn't worth your time. Rejection is your freedom, get rejected, know what it really is.

Thanks for the reply. You are completely right.

Yes, clearly I know now that I should have quit much MUCH sooner. I realized it even then, but being an AFC, and considering her incredible sexiness, I lingered on. I think I have learned better than that now.

I did see her again a few months later. She picked me up and took me home with her, and literally pulled off her clothes and jumped me. Although this had been a complete fantasy for me, it seemed suddenly all wrong, and I did not follow through, because:

1. She was quite drunk/high (He raped me!?)

2. No condom around, and she did not offer one either (stupid me)- if she takes me home @ 4:30 AM from a bar, can I be the only one she does that with? I don't want a disease or to die.

3. I discovered that the man she was LIVING WITH (big surprise) was not home at the time, but rather on safari in Africa. The big giraffe head over the stairs made me a little concerned about the "burst in while I am doing his girl and shoot me with an elephant gun" factor.

Needless to say that was the first and ONLY time in life SHE was rejected for ANYHTING, much less sex. If you saw her, you would know what I'm talking about.

Anyway, I know you are right on about the phone. Get on, ask her out get off.


I was mostly looking for any guesses as to why a woman would call several times a day, even when she is clearly not interested. This just seems incredibly bizarre to me.

I know that I would not call anyone, man or woman, several times a day if I had no interest in that person (or even if I did!). But, clearly she would do this - - what does it mean in "********.?"

I was mostly looking for any guesses as to why a woman would call several times a day, even when she is clearly not interested. This just seems incredibly bizarre to me.

I know that I would not call anyone, man or woman, several times a day if I had no interest in that person.

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She wanted you as an ego booster (but you nearly got some when she was wasted, which is better than most!).

Same applies whether its having a guy talk to her on the phone, follow her around, take her out but get none, buy her gifts. All of those achieve the aim.

Chicks need male attention them to maintain self esteem and feelings of attractiveness. They can get this from guys they wouldn't even consider dating.