After reading things on this website, we can all have a good idea of how ot be a good DJ, but there is 1 thing which on one seems to understand and that is, what to say if you make a move on a girl and get a negitive signal. If its bad thne you should move on, but often its not bad and so you can still cary on, but what would you say after she hesitates when you try to kiss her, or pulls her hand away from yours when you try t hold it, i dont know what to do, im sure most others do not either.

Iv set up this post for any one that does know to explain what to do in given scenarios, so if you have an idea, feel free to post it!

This is like reading Joyce. Only the Moo cows are missing.

Number one thing to do is don't get paranoid. A lot of people, when they're rejected, assume that it's because the girl doesn't think they're good enough, and so they feel humiliated by the rejection.

But there's plenty other reasons:

• She wants to, but has a religious issue.
• She doesn't want to appear sluttish and easy
• She's scared to fall in love with you. (Seriously! I once was refused a kiss for a few days because of this!)
• She's not done it before and is shy
• She's temporarily annoyed at you about something, but would be willing another time

Anyone who gets paranoid and upset will try to force the issue, or just get embarrassed. Neither of which will help you get over whatever is holding her back.

Just chill, pull back, and maintain confidence. Exactly what you say maybe isn't as important as your inner attitude when you say it, which is what she'll pick up on.

--> Beethoven

they go wrong. just go with the flow and dont assume too much or else you get disappointed more.

and dont force situations.

Here's my dilemma with all of this. How do you know when these things are signs of low IL and when they are just because of the girl's own issues. And when should you leave? People with stiff guidelines like Doc Love would say move on when the girl doesn't want to kiss. The advice on this forum seems to be a bit more free flowing. So these questions are for you more flexible people.

I keep running into this hot/cold problem. For example this girl gives me lots of positive signals, talks about sex, shows me pics of her scantily clad, talks about me being mysterious and how we connect, asks me over to her house to watch movies, but then stops the action after I've got her off very well with both my fingers and my tongue and she's done nothing for me. Happened twice so far with this girl. The last time I wrestled around in bed with her and tried to get her aroused again but finally gave up.

She'll also act aloof in front of friends but kiss me goodbye in front of them. At the end of a night of aloofness, a day after the second bout of ASD, I screwed up and put her down pretty hard in front of friends . It was botched C&F. I called a day later and apologized. Later in the convo she starts going off about how ejaculation is way too important to men and how her ex fvcked her while she cried. She then refused to go on a weeknight date with me because she said she was busy.

I'm sick of dealing with this and feel that her IL dropped for whatever reasons so I'm leaving her alone. However, how do you read her hot/cold? Fvcked in the head? Playing games? Afraid of being used?

Does it matter? Well if you want to stick around and be patient, you could help the girl work through the being used part and reassure her. If she's playing games, you could play back. But if she's crazy, get the fvck out. Knowing her motives helps you know how to proceed but how can anyone know a girl's motives??? So when and why do you decide to not mess with her anymore despite the fact that she still appears to be interested you? With girls there's always room for rationalizations and excuses about their behaviour. Even if they reject a date. Well, maybe she really WAS busy! So what is the true interest level death knell? A LJBF? Avoiding your calls and e-mails?