Main DJ board has gone south ...

[WestCoaster]

... glad this one is here.

Is the main board now filled with high school kids and first-time daters? What the heck as happened?! Look at the titles of posts, "Oh my God, she looked at me," and, "I can't figure women out," and, "What do I do," and, "Should I take my ex back."

The DJ answers to those questions are: "Of course she's looking at you," and, "Don't try to figure women out; live your own life," and, "What you should do is move on," and, "Never take your ex back."

I know, I'm older and have more experience, but how come the fundamentals of DJism -- i.e., searching for self-improvement first, not worrying about women and their behavior -- is lost on 99 percent of the people on the main DJ board?

Should they all be cast off to the high school board? That board used to rule and kick butt ... now it's just a blatant display of AFCness.

Thank God for this board!

[Austin Allegro]

Seconded.

Most posts on the main board are variations on either 'A girl looked at me on the bus - does she love me' or 'I'm a pimpin a$$ mofo who gets all da chicks'

[Skel]

Ya I find myself yelling at people now on that board. Yesterday for example some fool posted something like. She rubbed her boobs against me and kept following me around, what should I do?

I seriously wanted to stick my hand through the monitor and strangle the kid.

[Austin Allegro]

Yeah or 'I'm 18 she's 17, is the age gap too large'? :D

[Skel]

LOL

She gave me her number, should I call her?

[Austin Allegro]

I also can't stand the really long, rambling 1000 words + essays that read like a testimonial in church...

'It all started in junior high school when I was 12' yadder yadder yadder....:o

[Player_Supreme]

ditto

[Lone_raider]

LOL, I'm 21 so I'm not sure if my age qualifies for the mature man board. But honestly I get tired of the main board up there with the same repetitive questions.

Everytime I see one of those novel length posts I click the back button, and when I read one of those "banged 250 chicks last year cause I'm da bomb" posts I shake my head in despair.

Would rather read and post over here to be honest.

[WestCoaster]

On the main board a guy was told by a gal he was good looking and he didn't know how to take a compliment!!

My God, I was a royal AFC in my youth, but I knew how to do that! You smile and say thanks, it's really easy.

Is the 21st century man that freakin' clueless that he doesn't know how to take a compliment?! The world is doomed.

What in the heck are the fathers of the world teaching their sons these days? My God!

[dietzcoi]

They are learning the AFC way of life from Hollywood and Feminists...

TV is destroying our society, but you all know that.

Rome fell, and the "West" will falll....

Dietzcoi

[WestCoaster]

I tried the tough love approach on a guy who is acting like it's the end of the world after a four-month "relationship" (I use that term loosely) broke up, and wasn't received well.

I'm thinking most of those guys should be over on the high school forum where everyone can "feel each other's pain."

No offense to those who are going through this, but even at 18 when I broke up with my first girlfriend did I not feel this. I felt hurt and bummed, but more angry at her stupid antics. My eating habits changed, but I still got up in the morning, worked out, did my summer job, and held my head high when I returned to college and had to see this beyotch. She couldn't believe how calm and collected I was, and frankly, I was a royal AFC at that stage of my life.

I'm finding more and more young men on this side are turning AFC. Whatever happened to real men?

Then we have the guy with oneitis who is dating a married woman with two kids (he's 23) and he refuses to take advice from experienced DJs who have done this or who are divorced.

It's turning into an AFC forum -- sadly.

[dietzcoi]

True but we have to keep fighting. That is what this board is all about... fighting the AFC trend. We will probably never win but we can help out a few guys the way I wished somebody would have helped me in 1983.

Dietzcoi

[Omega]

Well, I can say that I honestly read this board more then I do the main. Regardless of my age I also feel that the high school as well as the main boards have gone to the dumpster.

[WestCoaster]

That's what I don't get Dietzcoi (and I'm your age) is that we've been through all this, we've been through the ringer and these youngsters think we're all wrong.

Seventy-five percent of my male married friends are miserable because they had no blueprint as to why they were marrying, what kind of person they should marry, and that they should get their own personal sh-t together before marrying.

Many are now trapped with kids.

I wasn't an AFC when I discovered this site, but it helped me refine my ways, and quit putting women on such tall pedestals. The essence of DJism -- be YOUR OWN best person -- is lost in the subtitle of this site in that it says it's all about meeting women. Actually, it should be all about being the best you can be.

I don't know why the newbies fight the geezers here ... but I guess they'll have to learn the hard way, i.e. divorce, major break-ups, etc. But yes, we should still fight against AFCism and oneitis.

* The dude Drex is ruining his life one day at a time with that married broad with kids ... and he still won't listen.

[Omega]

Originally posted by WestCoaster
That's what I don't get Dietzcoi (and I'm your age) is that we've been through all this, we've been through the ringer and these youngsters think we're all wrong.

Seventy-five percent of my male married friends are miserable because they had no blueprint as to why they were marrying, what kind of person they should marry, and that they should get their own personal sh-t together before marrying.

Many are now trapped with kids.

I wasn't an AFC when I discovered this site, but it helped me refine my ways, and quit putting women on such tall pedestals. The essence of DJism -- be YOUR OWN best person -- is lost in the subtitle of this site in that it says it's all about meeting women. Actually, it should be all about being the best you can be.

I don't know why the newbies fight the geezers here ... but I guess they'll have to learn the hard way, i.e. divorce, major break-ups, etc. But yes, we should still fight against AFCism and oneitis.

* The dude Drex is ruining his life one day at a time with that married broad with kids ... and he still won't listen.

It's obviously because their naive, but their naive because their in denial. Their brain has been conditioned to beleive that there's only one way, and they don't want to face that. Over time they'll get it, don't worry.

[WestCoaster]

R3etc., you'll go far in this world as you're learning DJism at age 15. Have you read the DJ bible? It's a keeper.

I'm envious that you can actually go out into this world with advanced DJ skills at your age. You'll not believe how far this can take you. Instead of being on suicide watch over a breakup, you'll learn to move on, establish your own hobbies, work on your career, and date others ... stuff I wish I would've known at your age.

You seem very astute and mature for your age. You do belong in this forum and congratulations on discovering DJism at such a young age.

Remember, most people are AFCs, Hollywood is AFC, the U.S. culture is AFC, and women don't understand DJism (though they're attracted to it), and don't like it in theory (though they love the techniques). All of these outside forces will try and turn you AFC.

Hold your ground!

[PuertoRican_Lover]

It is difficult to intervene in the affairs of others when there is an emotional bond between them because we have an inbred genetically predisposed desire to love and be loved. This emotion seems to temporarily override reason in the short term.

It is the fear of this feeling of love never happening again that makes one cling to their partner no matter how dreadful the results.

As we get older we have a better understanding that you need more than emotional and physical love to make a relationship last. As men we must look at a woman that we are to keep as how she will further our goals in life and how as a complementary partner she will make us stronger! Child bearing and feminine companionship are two of the main reasons why we engage with one another.

This 'reasoning' over 'emotion' becomes understood as we get older - experience makes us wiser. Young men are caught up in their physical lusts and because of their lack of experience their reasoning does not overpower the emotional appeal that a woman brings!

This lack of reasoning and overabundance of AFC emotion becomes extremely dangerous today because women have become extremely dangerous.

Women today, at an early age have become more astute of how to manipulate men for their personal gain, unfortunately to the detriment of the young man who does not value reason over his physical lust and his emotional need to love and feel loved.

However, once we get severely burned we never play with fire again – once we understand its power of destruction we respect it for what it is and handle it as such!

[WestCoaster]

New lows:

http://www.sosuave.com/vBulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=52479

A big, huge lie, bad spelling, grammar and b.s.

Check the ages on these guys, most are 17 and should be on the high school board. The other ones are 19 and just going on their first dates -- and they should be on the high school board, too.

Man, it used to be about style, about cool, about keeping your cool, about bettering yourself.

Now it's about either AFCism or misogyny. Thank God for this forum.

Can't believe Allen Thompson hasn't revamped the board.

It needs to be shut down for a week, have guys banned or shipped to the high school board, and started over.

The essence and philosophies of DJism are completely lost over there and it's getting worse.

[Genghis Juan]

West Coaster,

I completely agree with you (although being an engineer, my spelling is one of my weaknesses ;) ).

An age group should be defined for the main forum and enforced. I am also getting very tired of the threads started by guys in the age ranges of 15 to 18. They should be confined to the High School forum.

The end result, is the high quality posters in the age range of 19 to 24 or so, are becoming so discouraged, that they no longer post or respond to anything.

Overall, there should be some sort of mechanism that quickly weeds out the jackazzez that start silly threads.

[sustainable007]

I agree that the main forum is going south fast, and do you know why?

The answer is the Moderators are not stepping up to the plate...I propose that the moderators be placed in charge of keeping the lame posts out...., and the really good stuff in...I know this would be a demanding task, but it would insure quality material...and after all isn't a moderator a facilitator, and leader of discussion.

It would be really neat if we had a moderator with credentials, like Doc Love, or another expert of that nature...

Thats my opinion for what its worth.

[WestCoaster]

Yeah, what moderators? I know, people have day jobs, but they're the ones who started this site, they should keep it up.

On the main board I've read almost nothing regarding DJism on it. Nothing about being cool, calm, collected, valuing yourself, working on your own personal qualities. It's one big mysoginistic cesspool.

Plus, bunch of 16- and 17-year olds wondering how to take compliments (amazing!), how to ask women out (what?!), whether they should open doors (duh!) and so forth. Their fathers must be the most clueless folk on this earth. Didn't they teach them the basics ... guess not.

Then we have the play by play of guys screwing women ... pleeeeeease, I could care less. Then the long, unparagraphed stories.

It's really, really gotten bad and most of the dorks there don't even realize it.

But again -- WHERE ARE THE MODERATORS!

[Porky]

Most people don't understand the most important message this board can teach: women aren't the goal of life, just a perk.

[FratAndDiddy]

yep, i agree with you guys !
when i was younger, there was no internet to get good female advice and we just dogged it out until we got tired of being burnt and stepped on.
for all you younger bucs out there :
you have internet and good quality experienced advice on this site, so quit talking about silly stuff and realize that this site can help you if you all listen and take notes.

[Austin Allegro]

Case in point: look at the masturbation thread on the main board by some 15 year old. I'd like to think he's a troll but suspect he's genuine, unfortunately.

[WestCoaster]

When I was 15 I wasn't dispensing advice to older people, and this clown gets on there trying to tell everyone not to whack off. Hilarious!

Ah, whatever happened to the pre-internet/pre-MTV days when kids actually played pick-up basketball, rode their bikes, worked a tough summer job for no money and built character ... we're breeding a generation of AFC wimps, unfortunately.

[FratAndDiddy]

yeah West, the good ole days before AIDS !
i agree, just walk in any nite club and watch these guys operate !
no wonder women act the way they do ! they tease these poor fellas to death and they dont even realize it. if we good make good DJ's out of them, women would have to change their ways of operation.

[FlyGuy]

Unfortunately I think you guys are right...

I know, I'm older and have more experience, but how come the fundamentals of DJism -- i.e., searching for self-improvement first, not worrying about women and their behavior -- is lost on 99 percent of the people on the main DJ board?

Well, others have already made good points. Lack of experience. Baby-batter on the brains.

But I also think it has to do with effort. When I first came to this site I was looking for a quick fix, and I think most guys probalby are. They're looking to learn a few techniques, rules, guidelines, and tricks to get pvssy. When I read through the DJ Bible I got the message loud and clear that in order to be a true DJ you had to become a well rounded MAN. But I was so caught up in the other BS of life that it took me a few years to get where I needed to be. Heck, I'm still working on it, but I've developed enough of my inner game now to know that that's where its at.

That's one of the reasons I think working out is one of the best things for a newbie to start doing. It builds character, self esteem, confidence, discipline, and makes you look better too! Maybe the boot camp should be re-done to include work on the inner game as well :)

[khane9]

Originally posted by WestCoaster
Yeah, what moderators? I know, people have day jobs, but they're the ones who started this site, they should keep it up.

On the main board I've read almost nothing regarding DJism on it. Nothing about being cool, calm, collected, valuing yourself, working on your own personal qualities. It's one big mysoginistic cesspool.

Plus, bunch of 16- and 17-year olds wondering how to take compliments (amazing!), how to ask women out (what?!), whether they should open doors (duh!) and so forth. Their fathers must be the most clueless folk on this earth. Didn't they teach them the basics ... guess not.

Then we have the play by play of guys screwing women ... pleeeeeease, I could care less. Then the long, unparagraphed stories.

It's really, really gotten bad and most of the dorks there don't even realize it.

But again -- WHERE ARE THE MODERATORS!

West, I've come in here trying to participate in a way of doing rather than telling. I may or may not have posted one of these "play by play" screws, but there was a point in the end. Unfortunately no one really picked it up and chimed in on it. So I stopped the "action" posts all together. Aside from telling people to do sh*t, I don't know what else to do here. So tell me, am I doing this all wrong? Because I feel lumped into your rant. With all the people b1tching, I don't know what's right here.

Oh fvck it. I'm going out.

[Eternal]

Hey, lay off the moderators. Watching after the board isn't all that easy. We try our best to keep the forums running smoothly, but even we reach our limits at times. Though with this board up and running, it shouldn't be too hard to figure out who's a troll and who has real advice.

[Caveman]

Guys guys... You all sound like a couple of old ladies talking about the good old days. Instead of moaning and complaining about all the clueless AFC's on the main board that - apparently have clueless fathers too - why not use YOUR expertise and help these guys out?

At least they did ONE thing right: They came here because they know what they've been doing hasn't worked for them.

Even though you all might not have been as AFC as these new guys, everyone has to start somewhere. At least give them a little credit for trying to improve and if you can find the time: Help them out a little?

[WestCoaster]

Not trashing the moderators, but it appears they're not moderating one iota.

Look, when a 15-year old is coaching people on whacking off, that's a good indication to move it to the high school board or wipe it out ... please.

Seriously crazykid, you shouldn't be here, you should be on the other board. Actually you should just delete the entire board and start over and say if you're not going to read the DJ Bible you're going to get wiped out again. If you're going to post play-by-play sex scenes, you'll be wiped out. This is an internet site, YOUR internet site, it's a dictatorship run by Allen and staff. If they complain about free speech violations, forget it. Delete them.

I'm surprised the moderators have not looked at the deterioration of that board. And please move everyone 17 and under to the high school board. Most of the high school kids who come here appear cool and are willing to learn.

* Try to teach them over there on the other board? I told the guy with the kid who wanted to be a pimp that he was being an irresponsible fool and he said, "Let me be the pimp that I am."

Why not delete that? C'mon moderators, wipe these b-astards out! Can't you see that nothing about DJism is being discussed on that board?

[Caveman]

Okay, I get your point about not helping out on the main board. The fact is, you cannot change people that don't want to change. The guys that really want to learn need to read the DJ-bible which is mentioned at almost any board. After reading that, I think they might very well be aware when they are given bad advice.

In my opinion, people should only be given the name "Master Don Juan" when their posts are rated up to a certain amount of points or are hand-picked by the moderators. I think there are lots of good posters that don't post too often. Where others post crappy posts every day.

This system might give the newbies a better chance of picking out the good from the bad advice.

I just don't think it's worth complaining about it. That won't change anything..

[Survivor]

At first I wasn't going to respond to this thread, but its taking a turn that indicates that I may need to chime in here:

On the main board going south....

Quite simply, the main discussion forum is what it is, a training ground, a place where newcommers can ask questions, share ideas, and announce their "ground breaking discoveries". Its a haven where young "DJs" can learn and grow. It was that for me, for you, and for the current newbies. And it will continue to be such until Allen decides otherwise.

And let me remind some of you that the DJ Bible is NOT this website's greatest resource. YOU are this site's greatest resource. It is not the post itself, but the interaction between posters that determine the quality of a thread, and consequently, this message board as a whole.

Yeah, there are alot of low quality threads on the main forum. But I don't blame the kids for that. They are doing what they are supposed to do; ask questions. In my opinion, every post is quality post. The real problem is that not every post gets a quality response, or even worse, no response at all. Now I can't tell other "mature men" what to do, but all of us in this forum could take five minutes or less to provide a quality response to at least one of the posts in the main forum. That alone could go a long way to keep to main forum from going any further south, so to say...

On the idea of hand-picking Master Don Juans...

Master's Only forum request #3,576...:rolleyes:

I was once in favor of mods hand picking posters for a closed Master's Only forum, but now I believe that's a bad idea. Hand-picking "Master Don Juans" is elitist, useless, counter-productive and distracting. The purpose of this forum is for guys to improve their status in REAL LIFE, not their status on some obscure internet message board.

Exhibit A: This very thread. Look at how high and mighty some of you are acting. This sense of aristocracy may be an unforeseen byproduct of bringing back the "mature" forum that I didn't think would occur, but apparrently it has occurred. Imagine of this was a "Master's Only" forum?

On moderators being asleep at the wheel...

100% untrue. Rest assured every mod is well aware of what goes on in EVERY forum. Just because we don't respond to every thread that you think we should, believe me, we have our reasons.

Moderators should not have to publish justification for every action they do or do not make, and I'm not about to set that precedent now. The moderator's corner is a closed forum for exactly that reason.

[Eternal]

Originally posted by WestCoaster
Not trashing the moderators, but it appears they're not moderating one iota.

Look, when a 15-year old is coaching people on whacking off, that's a good indication to move it to the high school board or wipe it out ... please.

Seriously crazykid, you shouldn't be here, you should be on the other board. Actually you should just delete the entire board and start over and say if you're not going to read the DJ Bible you're going to get wiped out again. If you're going to post play-by-play sex scenes, you'll be wiped out. This is an internet site, YOUR internet site, it's a dictatorship run by Allen and staff. If they complain about free speech violations, forget it. Delete them.

I'm surprised the moderators have not looked at the deterioration of that board. And please move everyone 17 and under to the high school board. Most of the high school kids who come here appear cool and are willing to learn.

* Try to teach them over there on the other board? I told the guy with the kid who wanted to be a pimp that he was being an irresponsible fool and he said, "Let me be the pimp that I am."

Why not delete that? C'mon moderators, wipe these b-astards out! Can't you see that nothing about DJism is being discussed on that board?

I am on the other board (and every board after that too.) I basically live on this site now. If only you knew how many posts get deleted each day. When I first became a mod, I was surprised at how many posts get the "disappear forever" button. Useless and idiotic threads are trying to be cut down, but if everyone keeps posting them...

[TooColdUlrick]

this is fine, http://www.sosuave.com/vBulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=52658.

but this isn't, http://www.sosuave.com/vBulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=52715

i mean a car door test? they're creeping in boyz--it's just a matter of time.

[sustainable007]

100% untrue. Rest assured every mod is well aware of what goes on in EVERY forum.

The fact that you said that sums up the problem right there...Its like I said the moderators are out of touch...

[Porky]

All time low (http://www.sosuave.com/vBulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=52913)

[WestCoaster]

That is an all-time low.

It's amazing how the site moderators have let a site that was supposed to be about DJism disinegrate into one about mysogyny and boorishness.

About 90 percent of the main board has nothing to do with DJism and anytime someone posts something about being calm, cool, and collected and not letting women run their life, they just ignore and go back to saying something stupid.

I'm contemplating bailing on this whole site as it doesn't reflect my values (I'm old school) or what I think men in this country should be working on. All this site is doing is promoting values that are just going to continue our high pregnancy/high divorce/high abuse rate, IMO.

DJ moderators need to start another site as in how to score women and sex tips or something.

[FratAndDiddy]

yeah, i'm also scrounging for good stuff to read.
one post is not even in the form of a question

[WestCoaster]

I think you pointed out some good things. But yes, that board has really deteriorated. It used to be about maintaining some sense of cool throughout life amidst all the curveballs women are tossing us. I may write some articles, who knows. I do subscribe to the DJ tip of the day. A lot of what I have to say is already in the DJ Bible ... a tract that is widely ignored by the horndogs on the main site.

Yes, the c-m in the mouth thing should've been eliminated. Yes, I had a lot of questions about sex and so forth when I was your age, but I wasn't so desparate that I had to ask every minute detail. Some things are just better off finding out on your own.

As for conservative/liberal, I think DJism cuts across all boundaries. Believe it or not, I'm fairly liberal (politically) but I still have many family-type values that I think are worth perserving in our society, like not taking drugs, not cheating on your spouse, etc.

I do think those under 18 should stay on the high school board unless they have valid questions. They should be reading the entire DJ Bible and just reading responses from serious DJs.

When 15-year olds are preaching to us about the evils of masturbation, it's gone too far.

[WestCoaster]

... I just scanned the headlines of posts on the high school board and it's of higher quality than the main discussion board! Wow ... guys actually interested in becoming true DJs and learning DJ traits.

So high school guys (and gals if there are some), good job.

Main board ... I'm still waiting.

[FratAndDiddy]

first, i must say you sound like a "stand up"and "well put together" bro and thanks for jumping to the defense of the younger guys posting.

yes, i agree that some of us "mature men" may have abandon the main post and are not standing up as mature responsible adults getting good posts started in the main board. maybe some of us should jump over there from time-to-time and simply give a small summary of where some of you guys are going wrong.
i will gladly help the main board and help anyone seeking decent advice. but.... i will not get involved with masterbation posts, people posting braggart internet chat logs, posts one that is not in the form of asking advice, or someone who just wants to get on this site and boast of his many female trophies so far in life.
when someone on the main board posts a question, some who post it come back with a "fuk you" answer and are simply not heeding to any advice, it's very hard to offer them anything good .

granted, most of us in life do wish for a one pill fix to our problems
and if that drug ever comes out you can bet the line will be
longer than any rolling stones ticket line. however, it doesn't exist and young bucs will be young bucs and us older guys will continue to shake our heads.

sure, silly questions lesson as we age, but some of these silly
questions could be answered by themselves, if they would just
stop and think.

the point is, is that some on the main board do not want advice and fail to ask the right questions. some do not use the board wisely, others are seeking the advice they observe and i will help them, but to the ones who want to answer people with a "fuk you" i will not repond.

maybe some older guys who have abandon the main board
will come back after your post, but it's also a two-way street whereas some of the younger guys should come and read AND get involved with some really good requests for good advice.

so, without trying not to get real deep into the "no respect in western society" and "generation gap" crap i once again thank you for post and i hope you come back to the mature man board for the expert advice you deserve in your soon to be sucessful life.

Frat

[FlyGuy]

JSH:

@FlyGuy, props as well, i think you got it too. Though, I disagree with this emphasis on working out, as much as i am a lone wolf, at times i want company. Social sports also help out and can get you further in life as you have to be willing to work as part of a team and deal effectively with others. I am going to do a full post on this, but a lot of time is spent trying to get people to be sociable and gregarious in every aspect of their life and then to cut out a whole chunk every day. It can act as 'me' time but still, i like to have a mix of exercise.

I would simply say its a matter of what your goals are. My goals were not to build "team player" skills or make new friends, as I feel I already have those areas covered. My goal was first and foremost to build my confidence, change my image (mental and physical), and gain strength. As a skinny guy (a.k.a. an ectomorph) I could not accomplish those goals by joining a sports team. Others may have different fitness goals and sports may be a better fit for them :cool:

[FlyGuy]

but for example, my mum and my friends (female) were all shocked and basically laughed at the tonkest man on the beach because he looked ridiculously built and in a strange way pathetic. But as usual, go for whatever does it for you.

I don't want to get that big, and I don't even know if I could do it without using steroids (which I don't ever plan on using). This is the transformation I'm going for, almost exactly:

www.musclegaintips.com


Its true there are negative aspects to bodybuilding but so what? There are negative aspects to anything, sports included. Part of the reason I'm not into playing sports is because of the overly-competative atmosphere that I always encountered. Guys were so bent on winning that if you messed up they would just lay into you. There was no "sportsman-like" comraderie(sp?) and of course being extremely thin my whole life I was usually the last to be picked for a team.

Bottom line is that in terms of fitness and physique, there is no "one" solution that is best for everyone. I guess that's all I'm saying. And there are many great benefits of bodybuilding, I owe most of my recent success in life and change of attitude to it.

Carry on...

[TooColdUlrick]

but the basic fact still remains...

if these young pups would READ THE BIBLE and THE ARCHIVES, it would answer most, if not all, of their questions. they want a quick fix and despite what most of them say, they are unwilling to lay the necessary foundation--it's as simple as that.

hence the posts on,

"what car should a true DJ drive?"
"should i grow a goatee?"

WAKE UP!!! IT DOESN'T MATTER!!!

(notice that these sorts of questions/issues aren't in The Archive, for good reason)

90% of all the posts have already been debated ad nausium. if they are unwilling to lay the foundation, you get repeated questions from AFC's--ones that address the symptoms of their AFC-ness and not the root cause. so they chase their tail until they finally wake up. most don't (won't). the fact that the Main board has gone south is proof of this.

this, despite the Sticky on the Main board. further proof.

i've noticed WestCoaster shouting out here and there on the Main board. we need to do more of this. we need to b!tch slap some (many) of these posters--especially the ones that have 1,000 posts and still ask stupid questions.

we should think about putting a post similar to the old "KNOCK IT OFF!!!" post a while back. except this time, all of us geezers are chiming in, and referencing some of the stupidity (as we're doing here).

"The Long Road Out Of AFC-Ness"
"DJ For Life???"

or some other title. we need a great title first.

we need one general to lead the topic and three or four lieutenants. we need to be firm, harsh even. we need to get straight what we want to accomplish.

who's in?

[coldcoal]

Has anyone considered that there is very little if any place for Sosuave to go but downhill? When the site was concepted it was badly needed. When people like Pook joined up, there was a large void of bible material, and so it was easier for someone whom already had a clue in the game to make a positive impression here, especially one whom had literary skills. Could have been anyone.

It wasn't the "masters" or "geezers" that made the forums good. What made the forums good was that they were the seeds that sprouted the bible itself. Today, it's 98% backwards. The bible guidelines the forums for the most part.

And that's the problem. The forums aren't needed to make the site better anymore. The forums are just an interactive tool for the lazy, the philosphical and the disturbed and the bored.

It is not the newbies that are the "enemy", it is the lack of someplace new for Sosuave to grow. "Help the newbies" is the only reason to post anymore, and it gets old. There is nothing creative to participate in.

Eh. What do I know.

[coldcoal]

After thought: Maybe we need to start working on an advanced "Anti-Bible", full of "anti-rules" and why they sometimes work...like a DJ in sheeps clothing sort of thing.

[Eternal]

There tends to be a change of heart among most of you. When the mods start to really crackdown on the posts, we get complaints that we "are trying too hard and should loosen up." Yet when we get a little lax, we get bombed with "why is THIS around?"

[FlyGuy]

Personally I don't think its the mod's fault. To reiterate my point I just think most newbies want a quick fix. The DJ Bible outlines all the DJ philosophies, its up to individuals to take the advice or ignore it. IMO the best way to handle it is to lead by example, make good posts, etc. and the ones who want to put in the work will eventually come around.

In a way the state of the boards right now is a good sign... lots of new blood means that there are more and more young guys who are trying to break free of feminized society.

[Porky]

Originally posted by coldcoal
Has anyone considered that there is very little if any place for Sosuave to go but downhill? When the site was concepted it was badly needed. When people like Pook joined up, there was a large void of bible material, and so it was easier for someone whom already had a clue in the game to make a positive impression here, especially one whom had literary skills. Could have been anyone.

It wasn't the "masters" or "geezers" that made the forums good. What made the forums good was that they were the seeds that sprouted the bible itself. Today, it's 98% backwards. The bible guidelines the forums for the most part.

And that's the problem. The forums aren't needed to make the site better anymore. The forums are just an interactive tool for the lazy, the philosphical and the disturbed and the bored.

It is not the newbies that are the "enemy", it is the lack of someplace new for Sosuave to grow. "Help the newbies" is the only reason to post anymore, and it gets old. There is nothing creative to participate in.

Eh. What do I know.

I disagree. There are a few really good guys here who knows hteir stuff. That's the reason I keep coming back, and I expect it's the same for others.

i've noticed WestCoaster shouting out here and there on the Main board. we need to do more of this. we need to b!tch slap some (many) of these posters--especially the ones that have 1,000 posts and still ask stupid questions.

I absolutely agree...in fact, you've inspired me so much I'm going to go ***** slap some idiots right now.