I have been trying to ask this question for a while but no one responds.
I would like to know when first dating a girl or meeting a girl, when you stop being '****y and funny' and start saying something genuine.
WIth david deangelo he says to 'bust on the girls' and be '****y and funny' thats all well and good.
But you also have to make her WANT to see you again.
YOu need to make them feel good.
well obviously at some point you need to sweet talk them in a way.
WHen do you guys every say that?
In the movei how to be a player, bill bellamy tells girls things to make them feel good. I know its just a movie but at the same time, its the exact opposite of what people on here say.
This board makes it sound like you can never give compliments or be sincere.....that you always have to think you are everything and make the girl want you by not saying whateveryone else says and being a challenge?
I dont get it....when do you ever try to sweet talk instead of being hard to get and aloof? DO you ever become charming?

From my experiance which is not a whole lot:
Most of the time it is a good idea to wait for here to start sharing genuine or serious feelings. If you start doing this while she is still in a "fun" mood then you killed the fun.

You need to make compliments, but compliments that are genuine. Meaning, NOTHING from the pick up lines lists that you find on the net...

What not to say:

- I have had a really bad day and it always makes me feel better to see a pretty girl smile. So, would you smile for me?
- Your dad must have been retarded, 'cuz you are special.
- Babe, your beauty makes the morning sun look like the dull glimmer of the moon.

You need to give sincere compliments:

- If her eyes are really amazing, compliment her on them sincerily, and get back to what you were saying
- If she did something special to her hair/nails/clothes, tell her about it, tell her if you liked how she looked before better

In a nutshell, just be honest, with yourself and with what you say. Be very observing. Also always try to find something good to say about her, girls don't like pessimists.