Lately, I've seen so many guys (on and off this board) who claim to be experts in seduction. But after some exposure to them, I realize that they are just everyday guys.

Where do you go about finding guys whose actions are congruent with their words?

Edit: for clarity

Walden, sit down...

why must the weak always latch on to someone stronger? -fightclub

D. Dingleberry is a freakin salesman..he is making up ANYTHING he can to TAKE your money!

The point he is referring to in the animal kingdom is called "mimicry" i.e. watching someone more successful then you then copying his moves for your own success

and I ask you this, How the hell are you going to copy confidence? self esteem and positive self image??

You think just by observing a professor or intelluctual giving a speech or teaching a lesson..and be able to mimic and copy his intelligence??

While it could be helpful to study "Real DJ's" and watch there body language, verbal skills etc

its only on an artificial level..you need to learn how to BE THE MAN, instead of COPYING the man

and how do you do this? By DOING and LEARNING

if you are trying to grow a set of balls by watching your friends score women..you are def on the wrong path

I have a really good looking friend..who is AFC and has NO GAME at ALL..yet he reels in women like crazy

do I follow his game?? NO..because he doesnt have any..he gets PLASTERED every weekend to muster enough balls to approach women..then he scores based on his looks and drunk confidence alone..

Start leading instead of following..if you have no immediate role models..YOU can become the Role model..get out of the damn box

Point well taken . . .

Thanks for the kick in the ass.

dig deep within yourself and follow your true nature - u do not need another man to show u the way - the answer is within u - u have to reprogram your mind to its natural state that existed b 4 u were born!! - i hope u get the meaning of this esoteric message because it aint going to get any clearer!!!

Real Don Juans are those of us (Yes I'm being arrogant) that are it without even noticing it but at the same time is perfectly aware of it =) There is just something about those types that attract girls.