How do you guys go about seducing or trying to get with a girl who has a boyfriend? I have never had to deal with this kind of situation before and could use some advice please.

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Well, this is what works for me...just tell her that her boyfriend is "using" her for sex and will then dump her when he's done.

It's the truth and it wounds her emotionally, leaving her in a vulnerable state and you can use that to get them to argue and then move in. A type of divide and conquer tactic.

Have a nice day!

Yeah, I see how that could work. I see her every day at school, and need to avoid the friend zone before its too late. Any other ideas, fellas?

thats a horrible idea, just keep your **** to yourself!!! find some other tail you can latch on to, if there genuinely isn't any other, then try his idea but she might hate you after you say that because she might be really close to this guy and once she asks him your ass is grass, the boyfriend will come after you. unless she's giving you the go signal leave it alone!!!

Let me elaborate on this. This girl is in a few of my classes, so we see each other during the week pretty much every day. She is actually very cool, not *****y and moody like some girls. We have only known each other for about 3 weeks, so we don't know each other very well. I need to show her that I am interested in her but not offend her at the same time. Plant the seed, so to speak. Just so she knows without any doubt, but not piss her off. Any ideas would be helpful, thanks.

go screw yourself

Dude tell her you "have a crush on her" but know it's not going anywhere cos she has a boyfriend.
In my AFC days I used to pull this one and it worked every time.

Now, however I don't need to scam chicks off other guys cos I can get my own.

I've had a few girls tell me that they're about to break up with their current boyfriends after they get to know me. If you have a way of interacting with these girls through school, work, or other organization it can be easy. Just show them you're better then what they've currently got, and then make them feel like they might be able trade their old model in for the fully loaded 2003 DJ.

Why do people want to manipulate and screw up other people's lives like that?

a tad too egotistical, if you ask me.

I hate to pick your post apart but:

She is actually very cool, not *****y and moody like some girls.

Yes she is. She will be moody cos' she'll get her period, and she'll be *****y about other women, as well as when you leave her at home on friday night while you go out drinking with your mates. I just want you to realise, she may be a cool girl, but don't put her on a pedastal. Plenty of other girls out there who are just as cool. Also, you're seeing the "image" she projects around everyone, you don't know her that well.

I need to show her that I am interested in her but not offend her at the same time. Plant the seed, so to speak. Just so she knows without any doubt, but not piss her off.

Offend her? "Piss her off"? How's that? Besides, only AFCs are worried about that. If you had a GF, and some girl was OBVIOUSLY interested in you, would you get pissed off? What about if she was a much better catch than your GF? Didn't think so...

And what's with all this "let her know I like her" crap? Is that so she can ask YOU out cos you're afraid of being rejected, you sissy? (No offence, I'm just busting your balls. )But you have to realise that YOU are the MAN. She must always WONDER if you like her, but never KNOW. TRUST ME, I know from experience.

Any ideas would be helpful, thanks.

Girls with BFs are tricky, I've have tried THREE times and failed all three times (If failure means not getting a STR or LTR). The fartherst I ever got was 2nd base with two of these girls. But the third seems to be coming round. I have learned from my mistakes and have some sound advice for you:

1) Ask her on a date.
That's the first and foremost thing you do. Why? Well if she's happy with her BF and going to remain faithful, or she just wants to be nice, she'll say "Sorry, Leogetz, I have a BF." and you can move on. Does she KNOW that you KNOW she has a bf? If not, then PERFECT. Ask her on a date, try not to make it look too serious. Coffee works.

2) Go all out on your first date.
The first date is really your only chance to make a great impression, so make it count. Make her laugh, use C & F. Create the "perfect guy" (DJ not AFC) image. She'll constantly compare her BF to you. You must look better. He sees her OFTEN, but that gives you the advantage cos' it makes her think about you more and makes her BF seem less perfect.

3) Never admit your interested. Act uninterested.
Always keep them guessing. If their friends ask "Do you like Y?". Don't answer them. Dodge the question with some humour. Give her some attention, but not too much.

4) Don't disrespect her BF or talk about him, too much.
If she brings him up in convo, don't make a big deal about it. It's amazing how well this works if she likes you. If you act like you aren't phased by him and you don't care that she's unavailable it'll only make her want you more. If she thinks your jealous or trying to "steal" her away from him, she'll be turned off.

5) Try LJBF her when her interest level is high
This requires some DJ instinct. It worked for me. When I sensed she really liked me I told her I just wanted to be friends. She KNOWS this is you REJECTING her and will make her go crazy. It can back-fire though so be careful.

6) Don't waste too much time
I think you're in highschool, most relationships don't last long there. As soon as your sense she in to you, wait for the right moment, and kiss her. If she freaks out then just walk away. Don't look back. Don't sit around getting this huge crush on her until one day you ask her out and she rejects you. TAKE ACTION! BE A F*^%$ MAN!

7) The DJ rules still apply
Mystery, challange, neg-hetting, ****y and funny. Don't forget those simple rules. They're the foundation on which the rules above are based. The above things only work if she can be attracted to you, girls are attracted to DJs not nice guys. IF you're not going to be a man, then stuff above won't help you.

Good luck!
Santos

A Semi-AFC friend of mine is having this problem. He's developed a huge crush on a chick at his work, who he shares a shift with only twice a week.

He is naturally a C+F master which has done him wonders, but since I've been guiding him on what to do, he's performed quite impressively.

From how he describes their interactions, she is displaying very high IL. He has also gathered that she is having boyfriend troubles and gets upset that he never wants to go out with her.

I'm guessing mega AFC.

Anyway I convinced him to get the courage to ask her out which she accepted gleefully. They saw a movie then went to a club and got drunk, which is not ideal but I can't shake off all the AFC out of him. Sadly he didn't make a move.

But the next day we went out to a pub, and she turned up with her BF (she knew he'd be there not a total coincidence). Her BF was quite overweight and seemed pretty drab. While she was dancing on the dancefloor he was just standing there like a boring old fart. He left early. After this, the girl was still showing very IL in my friend.

My man-slut friend (another guy) went on a drunken ass-pinching spree and pinched her arse by mistake. She turned around, he ran away, and the guy who likes her stood there and took the blame. She wasn't the least bit upset.

It was so obvious that she likes him but my friend is too tentaive and moral to make a proper move. Why isn't she dumping her bore of a boyfriend? Is she too scared to? (he's older and knows the family).

I need advice to tell my friend how to seal the deal he's worked so hard for.

go screw yourself

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Hey, DJ_Dork...thanks for your input. Very well thought out post. Santos, thanks for your advice. No, I am not in high school, but I have never really had to deal with this kind of situation before. She has mentioned her BF before casually, but not lately. I just changed the subject, she gets the hint. I will just have to ask her out and see what happens. Go with the flow from now on.