“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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She wants a "nice guy"!

silverwex

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Hey all,

Right my girl (who ive been seeing for about a week now) says what she needs right now is a "nice guy"! She doesnt think im a nice guy (coz of all the DJ stuff ive been applying on her - C/F, neg hits etc...). Ive made out that ive a lot of girls on the go also!

What do you think i should do? Revert back to AFC-dom and be "nice" or continue on as I am? We seem to be getting on quite well and i treat her fairly well.

PS - She finished with her bf of 3 years a short while ago and he didnt treat her the best, apparently.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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We're also going out to the cinema tonight. Is there anyway i could be "nice" and be a DJ at the same time?!

Thanks
 

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Originally posted by silverwex
Hey all,

Right my girl (who ive been seeing for about a week now) says what she needs right now is a "nice guy"! She doesnt think im a nice guy (coz of all the DJ stuff ive been applying on her - C/F, neg hits etc...). Ive made out that ive a lot of girls on the go also!

What do you think i should do? Revert back to AFC-dom and be "nice" or continue on as I am? We seem to be getting on quite well and i treat her fairly well.

PS - She finished with her bf of 3 years a short while ago and he didnt treat her the best, apparently.
What she SAYS and what she THINKS aren't necessarily one and the same. You're supposed to be a Don Juan, not a jerk, so you can be the in-control alpha male and still respect her. ;)
 

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Thanks man, good thinking.

SO should i still apply the C+F stuff and the neg hits etc?
 

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If what you've been doing up until now with her has worked, then why change? If you start being all nice to her now just because she told you she wants a nice guy, she'll know she's got you whipped. So long as you're not being a real a**hole you shouldn't take any notice of what she says. If it's appropriate and you've not been doing so already, give her a single compliment on your next date.

bp1974
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Hey BP,

Even though shes a sexy lil thing Ive been intentionally (spelt right?!) withholding compliments from her, even tho once or twice ive given her an indirect compliment (e.g. thats nice hair, i like girls that have hair like that - or something to that effect).

Thanks for the advice tho.
 

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"I want a NICE guy."

TRANSLATION: I want someone to kiss my ass, for me to push around cuz it's fun, then when I'm bored with you, you will be my floor mat.

Women don't know what they want. They say 'nice guy', what they really want is a real man.
 

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InLaws - You're right man! Shes not gonna change me! : ) Thanks
 

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Everyone has said it, women say ONE thing then do/want the something TOTALLY different.

Just do what you do, don't have to be a jerk but be a DJ, if she wants a little AFC to twirl around her finger then maybe she's a waste of time anyway.

You know, you can be a DJ and charming without being a jerk or a chump, so strike that balance.
 

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Yeah, if she recently broke up with her boyfriend, who was a first-class jerk, then she probably thinks she wants someone who's the opposite of him, someone who won't hurt her like he did. So she's trying to play it safe by seeking a "nice guy" to go out with. But chances are she didn't start going out with her ex because he was nice. Start acting like an AFC and she'll soon get bored with you and move on.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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I'm going to take a slightly different approach to this than the others. I'm figuring that what she's saying is not so much "I want a nice guy", but rather, "I want you to be nicer to me."

I'm definitely not suggesting going AFC and serenading her outside her window, just that you slightly back off on the neg hits. I'm thinking this because you already made the initial catch with her through your neg hits and C&F, because that's what neg hits and C&F are designed to do... on the other hand, it's only been a week, which is not long enough to really "keep" her, so you shouldn't back off entirely. Just remember that serious neg hits shouldn't be used if you are in an LTR and you're planning on keeping her.
 

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Originally posted by MDgood
I'm going to take a slightly different approach to this than the others. I'm figuring that what she's saying is not so much "I want a nice guy", but rather, "I want you to be nicer to me."

I'm definitely not suggesting going AFC and serenading her outside her window, just that you slightly back off on the neg hits. I'm thinking this because you already made the initial catch with her through your neg hits and C&F, because that's what neg hits and C&F are designed to do... on the other hand, it's only been a week, which is not long enough to really "keep" her, so you shouldn't back off entirely. Just remember that serious neg hits shouldn't be used if you are in an LTR and you're planning on keeping her.
ya i agree with this response. I used to many neg hits on a girl once and she got pissed. I think you should be nicer but stay in control and keep using your DJ skills. Just tone down the neg hits.
 

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Being nice is not AFC. Being nice out of desperation is AFC.
 

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I think I've heard that one before...
 

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Don't think of it as being an either an AFC or a DJ, mix it up a bit.

Throw in the occasional romantic (or AFC, or whatever you want to call it) gesture then go back to your normal self.

Keep her guessing and on the back foot. Be unpredictable. As long as you're not an outright bastard, she'll probably lap it up.
 

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C&F and neg hits are for creating attraction. You got her attracted now cut stuff that out. She thinks you are an ass throwing C&F and negging her all the time. Tone back on the C&F, don't eliminate it entirely, but stop the neg hits. Neg's are designed to knock a girl off her high horse, pedastel, thinking she's above you, etc. Now you may just be insulting her and why she'd want a nice guy who doesn't insult her. It's a fine line between a neg and an insult.
 

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Buy her a Justin Timberlake poster.
How's that for a nice guy?
Peace.
 

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Originally posted by silverwex
Hey all,

Right my girl (who ive been seeing for about a week now) says what she needs right now is a "nice guy"!
Now she "says" she wants a "nice guy." But look who's going out with her!
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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