I am disappointed in this site...

Ronin I · May 30, 2003

When I first came to this site I was infected with one-itis and desperately needed help.

Since then I have learned a lot and brought my game to new levels.

I am no longer fearful of approaching ANY girl in ANY situation.

Lately I come here and am VERY disappointed at what I read. I honestly feel that most of the men here cannot help me with the problems that I have.

To the DJS that have taken the time to help me (RKtek, Tesuqered, InlawsHateme, Umbra, uniassign, pook, becker and whoever I've forgotten - Thanks.)

This isn't a fairwell speech by any means. I know that I will face many problems with the women I deal with in the future and will come here seeking advice.

But I now realize that most of the men on this board do not have much useful advice to give (no offense)

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Too much of this board is fluttered with immature bullsh!t posts that aren't worth reading.

So I implore EVERYONE that visits this site - FOCUS on what's important!

This board has gone down in value the more I have visited it. It seems to be contagious. The aforementioned DJs seem to visit less and less - and its sad.

Maybe we can start our own board. Or maybe it's time to move on.

Not sure.

- Ronin I

stallion · May 30, 2003

hi ronin,

being on the board for 2 years, I've noticed that this board has seasons, the nice season and the dry spell.

You got it, we sometimes get a burst of great threads from seasoned DJs for a period and once they tire of it, the newbies thread starts to stand out. Obviously, this is the dry spell. FOr me, I simply would take a break from this site for a month or so anmd come back. Usually, by then, things would have changed.

Titus · May 30, 2003

Ronin, isn't it obvious why the GREAT DJ's do not come on this board anymore?

The sosuave thing is good... to some lengths. But sooner or later we grow over it. I have. And i see it in a totaly new light. It was very helpful back then, but now i have been on my own for quite a long time. And trust me, it MUCH better then reading things on this board.

Demon · May 30, 2003

Bleh. Not another one of these threads...

marqZAL · May 30, 2003

The only thing that disapoints me is that people dont use:

1. Read the bible before posting a question!

2. Don't do a search before posting a question!

Starman · May 30, 2003

This board seems like it has moved from learning and discussing DJ skillz / experiences..to b1tching and whining about some skank who didnt call..or trying to understand why some chick dissed them

the irony is..there are 100+ forums like this for women..discussing and whining about why men dissed them..

I'll bet you could learn a million things from a womans forum..by reading what men do..to irk them..and capture their interest so far as to have them post their troubles on a forum asking for advice

FlyGuy · May 30, 2003

I can't tell ya how many times I've seen a post like this. So the board is fluttered with crap... its because of all the newbs. Just relax and make posts that are worth reading/discussing. Be part of the solution. Of course, the best way to do that is to actually go OUT and work on your game and then come back to discuss it. That is what most people on this board (myself included) need to do more of.

es_mer8 · May 30, 2003

The problem isn't with newbies, the problem is that most everything covered has been done before. I don't think newbies like me should carry the dead weight because the honest truth is that there is nothing really new to talk about anymore. What are the odds that something new in the DJ game is going to come up that hasn't been discussed before? Yeah, thats right.

I've written up a guide that is a summary of past works in a quick, easier to read form but I feel has covered some areas like hygiene that I don't see in other threads. Yet it managed to sink to the bottom of the HS forum. So whats the problem here? I offer new stuff and it falls to the page. I didn't see any experienced DJs to give comments, advice, or any critiques. So where were you at to guide newbies like me along? Some people made comments on it but no suggestions and I refused to believe that its perfect. Yet it falls and here we have people *****ing about how newbies are ruining the board in a different forum.

I like this place but sometimes logic aren't some people's friends.

matius · May 30, 2003

I am disappointed in this site...

I'm disappointed with this post...

Who cares what you think really on this matter? Honestly, couldn't care less. You have to deal with idiots in every day life, why would it be any different on a world-wide forum.

Get what you want out of it and quit your bltchin. Keep your arse kissin shout outs ta ya damn self. So, as you can see by now the kind of threads you create add to the harsh clutter of BS...see what's going on?

FlyGuy · May 30, 2003

Don't give me that crap about logic. First of all I'm not some masterful experienced DJ myself. Secondly I don't browse the HS forum because I'm trying to focus on my game and I've been out of the HS scene for a long time now.

I gather that what he is comlaining about are the topics of conversation - not that they have already been done but a lot of the posts are newbs asking questions or advice on topics that have been covered already in the DJ Bible. If people would read, experiment a bit, and think for themselves a little more there would be more meat to the topics. Personally it doesn't bother me much because hey - you don't have to read every single topic if you don't want to

I just think we need more leg work, field reports, more comparing techniques using real experiences, etc.

And yes as I said I'm guilty of the same thing. I need to go out and put in some work...

johnnyboy101 · May 30, 2003

Even though I've only been here a short while, this board is PU school and mASF is PU University.

I spent 2.5hrs putting together a long post here on how to behave on a date, and only 3 people commented on it. The stuff I put up was much more mASF than DJ, and I thought my advice would be of some help. I also posted it on mASF knowing it would get no response as it is pretty fundamental stuff there - I was offering nothing new.

Instead, the thread dropped quickly from the board with threads laughing at AFCs being far more popular. Why is everyone here so interested in AFCs? You should be interested in yourself and your development, screw the rest of the world.

The fact that Doc Love writes for this place shows me what a huge development and behavioural gap there is between this place and mASF.

matius · May 30, 2003

Maybe we can start our own board. Or maybe it's time to move on.

You and the other Knights of the Round Table...dork.

People think they can just post whatever they want and not have their shlt fed back to em. Dream on.

FlyGuy · May 30, 2003

I spent 2.5hrs putting together a long post here on how to behave on a date, and only 3 people commented on it. The stuff I put up was much more mASF than DJ, and I thought my advice would be of some help.

I never saw that one, you should bump it

thissucks003 · May 30, 2003

Originally posted by johnnyboy101
Instead, the thread dropped quickly from the board with threads laughing at AFCs being far more popular. Why is everyone here so interested in AFCs? You should be interested in yourself and your development, screw the rest of the world.

The fact that Doc Love writes for this place shows me what a huge development and behavioural gap there is between this place and mASF.

I've felt the same way and posted this thread:

http://www.sosuave.com/vBulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=29137

I bought into the Doc Love crAp and have since abandoned it. It has it's place for basic material to help you develop backbone if you don't already have it. But limits everything you do because you become too consumed in analyzing every small detail looking for red flags looking to cancel a gal out. Not everything is cut and dry like the way he describes things. Doc Love doesn't develop your skills. It hinders it.

TS

Player69 · May 30, 2003

There are some experianced regulers that frequent the boards, lots of newbies that show up for a week or 2, tons of lurkers, and then some people who show up now and then a few times a year. The boards seem to have their ups and downs on giving advice. Some more legit then others, but even the stupid stuff is educational if you understand the reasons the person posted it rather then putting it into practice.

If you are a seduction newbie (AFC) I would get most of my advice from the DJ bible rather then from the boards. If you find something knew that was not posted there (it sometimes happens) then bring it to the boards. You can also post on the boards if you just want to kick back and post some stuff, but its sometimes anoying for AFCs to filter through the trash that often comes up. www.fastseduction.com also has some very nice advice.

Ronin I · May 30, 2003

Originally posted by matius
I'm disappointed with this post...

Who cares what you think really on this matter? Honestly, couldn't care less.

You cared enough to respond now didn't you?

Ronin I · May 30, 2003

Originally posted by matius
You and the other Knights of the Round Table...dork.

People think they can just post whatever they want and not have their shlt fed back to em. Dream on.

Why the hostility my man? Angry I didn't mention you? Feel slighted 'cause you're not one of the Knights?

Vassago · May 30, 2003

When I first came ta dis here site I wuz infected wiff one-itis an' desperately needed he`p.

Since then I gots learned uh lot an' brought muh ma ****in game ta new levels.

I be nahh longer fearful o' approaching ANY ho in ANY sh!t.

Lately I come here an' be VERY disappointed at what I read. I honestly feel dat most o' da men here cannot he`p me wiff da problems dat I gots.

To da DJS dat gots taken da tyme ta he`p me (RKtek, Tesuqered, InlawsHateme, Umbra, uniassign, pook, becker an' whoever I've forgotten - Thanks.)

This ain't uh fairwell speech by any means. I know dat I will face many problems wiff da biAtchez I deal wiff in da future an' will come here seeking advice.

But I now realize dat most o' da men on dis here board do not gots much useful advice ta give (no offense) .

Too much o' dis here board iz fluttered wiff immature bullsh!t posts dat aren't worth reading.

So I implore EVERYONE dat visits dis here site - FOCUS on what'simportant!

This board has gone down in value da mo' I gots visited it. It seems ta be contagious. The aforementioned DJs seem ta visit less an' less - an' its sad.

Maybe we's can start our own board. Or maybe it'styme ta move on.

Not sure.

- Ronin I

Ronin I · May 30, 2003

Originally posted by Vassago
When I first came ta dis here site I wuz infected wiff one-itis an' desperately needed he`p.

Since then I gots learned uh lot an' brought muh ma ****in game ta new levels.

I be nahh longer fearful o' approaching ANY ho in ANY sh!t.

Lately I come here an' be VERY disappointed at what I read. I honestly feel dat most o' da men here cannot he`p me wiff da problems dat I gots.

To da DJS dat gots taken da tyme ta he`p me (RKtek, Tesuqered, InlawsHateme, Umbra, uniassign, pook, becker an' whoever I've forgotten - Thanks.)

This ain't uh fairwell speech by any means. I know dat I will face many problems wiff da biAtchez I deal wiff in da future an' will come here seeking advice.

But I now realize dat most o' da men on dis here board do not gots much useful advice ta give (no offense) .

Too much o' dis here board iz fluttered wiff immature bullsh!t posts dat aren't worth reading.

So I implore EVERYONE dat visits dis here site - FOCUS on what'simportant!

This board has gone down in value da mo' I gots visited it. It seems ta be contagious. The aforementioned DJs seem ta visit less an' less - an' its sad.

Maybe we's can start our own board. Or maybe it'styme ta move on.

Not sure.

- Ronin I

The Ebonics Translator I suppose?

matius · May 30, 2003

Why the hostility my man? Angry I didn't mention you? Feel slighted 'cause you're not one of the Knights?

Ronin I- Na, I couldn't care less about what I wrote above or how I wrote it just as long as these posts catch a little bit of shlt. It's really not even about hostility towards you, I don't have anything against you...I've never read anything groundbreaking by you or some of the kids you mentioned (not that it couldn't happen or hasn't)...but this kind of nonsense should catch some heat. It's like the bloke who announed he was leaving last week and then stayed. I've liked some stuff I was reading here, and I've disliked some of the stuff...you don't need to know what I awarded as proper and good...you wouldn't care you know- 'so what you don't like it'.

It's not good for the morale of the whole- and though I agree much of it is nonsense there are many people here that want to help and are helping. So I stick with what I say.

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