“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Vassago

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What would YOU do in these situations?

1. You have a a date set up with a girl for Friday, and you call her Friday morning to discuss the time and place. She says, "Oh Im soooo sorrrrrrry...I totally forgot and I let them schedule me to work. I feel sooooo bad"...

BUT she doesn't say anything about rescheduling.



2. You have a first date set up and the girl is supposed to meet you at your house. She calls you an hour before and asks if she can meet you at the restaurant downtown.



3. You are on a first date, and after dinner and drinks she says, "Hey I have some friends over at Daddy's Bar and Grill...Let's go over there at meet up with them!"


These are all tough situations that I have come across in the last few months. I learned A LOT, and I figured you guys would too.
It's good to be prepared in advance for the games women play.

Who will score the highest on the DJ Quiz???

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Oscar Wilde

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1. Do nothing. If she calls you back to reschedule, good, otherwise NEXT. Are you still on the phone at this point? If so, how about you reschedule it.

2. What's the problem? Go meet her. Why didn't you pick her up from her place?

3. "I'm real sorry babe, it would be great to meet your friends but I have to get outta here, <am busy/need to catch train/no excuse>. "
 

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1. (Cheery tone) "No problem. Its too bad you have to work though, it's going to be a great time. Don't worry I'll find someone else to come. Maybe we can get together some other time. Have fun at work. Bye"

2. (Cheery tone) "Hey that's no problem you're running a bit late. What time? Okay see you at O'Malley's at 7:00 pm."

3. (Smiling but slightly sarcastic) "Well... Thanks for the GREAT date. I hope you have a good time with your friends." Get up and walk away no excuses.
 

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Originally posted by Slickster

2. (Cheery tone) "Hey that's no problem you're running a bit late. What time? Okay see you at O'Malley's at 7:00 pm."

3. (Smiling but slightly sarcastic) "Well... Thanks for the GREAT date. I hope you have a good time with your friends." Get up and walk away no excuses.
1: I like your answer to 1.

2: "O'Malley's" - that's a strange name to pick at random, you Irish?

3: Why so rude?
 

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Not Irish but O'Malley's is just a restaurant in my town.


Number 3. Is a little rude but hey isn't her suggesting to cut the date short to go meet up with her friends rude too. Its like she's saying I'm bored hanging out with just you so lets go hook up with some other people.



Have to go back to work now. Would like to discuss this further later.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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#3 happened to me. I went and tried to make small talk with her friends. I never called her again.

At least she ddn't end the date early, then go hook up with her friends. (But then again, how would I ever know if it happened unless I caught her?)
 

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1. No counteroffer, so my work here is done. "Okay. Well, it's looking like a fun night. Don't work too hard." Silence...if a counteroffer arrives, I think about it, but probably decline. If not, bye.

2. Tough call, depends on the circumstances, and my mood really. I'd ask her if she was there already. If not, I'd say "nah, let's just stick to the plan." If she was already there an hour early, I'd leave late.

3. "Nah, this is our time. Let's go over to (insert bar name) and play some pool." Get up, take her hand, and take her to play pool.
 

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1. No shoes, no counter-offer, no service. If she has no counter during that particular conversation, she should be able to contact you if she thinks of one later. But as far I'm concerned, she should be gushing out alternative dates if she's really interested.

2. Okay, whatever. Show up 10-15 minutes late. She changed the plans, she can wait.

3. Oscar had the best response. "Sorry, I'm pressed for time. Have fun with your friends, I'll *try* to give you a call later this week." Note: she doesn't deserve an excuse as to why you're leaving.
 

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Originally posted by Vassago
1. You have a a date set up with a girl for Friday, and you call her Friday morning to discuss the time and place. She says, "Oh Im soooo sorrrrrrry...I totally forgot and I let them schedule me to work. I feel sooooo bad"...
BUT she doesn't say anything about rescheduling.
Trick question. First of all, I would not have called to confirm on the same day as the date. Time and place should have been happily agreed upon several days earlier. She should call you within a reasonable time if she wishes to cancel.
Originally posted by Vassago
2. You have a first date set up and the girl is supposed to meet you at your house. She calls you an hour before and asks if she can meet you at the restaurant downtown.
Again, trick question. The real mistake is letting her pick you up to begin with. Transportation is traditionally the man's responsibility. Not exactly the best first impression to let her wear the pants on the first date. No wonder she doesn't even want to be in the same car as you.
Originally posted by Vassago
3. You are on a first date, and after dinner and drinks she says, "Hey I have some friends over at Daddy's Bar and Grill...Let's go over there at meet up with them!"
Yet another trick question. Any action date would have been a much better choice than the typical "dinner and drinks". The girl is bored and has subconsiously associated that boredom with you. Game Over.

So how'd I do?
 

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1. You have a a date set up with a girl for Friday, and you call her Friday morning to discuss the time and place. She says, "Oh Im soooo sorrrrrrry...I totally forgot and I let them schedule me to work. I feel sooooo bad"...

BUT she doesn't say anything about rescheduling.

I would answer - "hmmm, ... too bad - have a nice day then." hang up. Give her a call in a week and give her ONE last shot. NEXT

2. You have a first date set up and the girl is supposed to meet you at your house. She calls you an hour before and asks if she can meet you at the restaurant downtown.

"I'll meet you there at 8:00 sharp."

3. You are on a first date, and after dinner and drinks she says, "Hey I have some friends over at Daddy's Bar and Grill...Let's go over there at meet up with them!"

ouch, that's a tough one. Too hard to level a girl's IL just by that. If I guage'd the IL high - no problem. "I'd be glad to meet your friends". If IL is low. "No, I like spending time with you alone."

These are all tough situations that I have come across in the last few months. I learned A LOT, and I figured you guys would too.
It's good to be prepared in advance for the games women play.


Who will score the highest on the DJ Quiz???

:confused:

<--- Of course!
:rolleyes: what kind of question is that?


:D
GHOST
 

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I'm embarrassed that I missed everything Survivor just pointed out. Good Show!
 

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Originally posted by Slickster

3. (Smiling but slightly sarcastic) "Well... Thanks for the GREAT date. I hope you have a good time with your friends." Get up and walk away no excuses.
I think that was the best #3 - phucc me for not thinking about it.
I wouldn't be sarcastic though. I'd cut the date short N let her leave to her friends. I have no point in sticking around if she doesn't want to spend time with me.
 

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Survivor's batting a thousand. Everything he said is right on the mark.
 

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Yeah, come to think of it, I never do dinner dates first anymore, nor do I wait until the last day to call and confirm. But I have had the first situation happen days before...

I have had my girlfriend come to my place, but not on a first date. And I never let a woman drive.

Cheers
 

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Originally posted by Giovanni Casanova
Survivor's batting a thousand. Everything he said is right on the mark.
Well, like most veterans here, I had to learn my lessons the hard way.
 

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1. Tell the girl "No biggie next time then. I'll give you a call later." A soon as you hang up you call your back up date and go out with her. If you were foolish enough not to have a back up in place then you can either shuffle through your number list and find another girl to go out with or call it a bust and hang with the boys at a bar or club.

2. How is this even a question? Just meet her at the freakin restarunt... It saves you the trouble of waiting for her a$$ (and she'd probably be late going to your house; getting lost, doing her make up blah blah blah), Meeting her their is actually better.

3. If you're in the middle of a date and you've already had dinner and drinks alone and she suggest meeting up with some of her pals I also view this as good and wouldn't mind going. She's probably looking to show you off to her friends to get their opinion. I usually play along and do my best to make a good impression so the help me out in assuring her she made the right choice.
 

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Wow! Great stuff guys!

Survivior, these weren't trick questions, but nice insights! I respectfully disagree with your points...Not to say that they aren't good, because THEY ARE. I just do things a little differently, and there were a few things I failed to clarify.

Ill make a new post after this one to avoid confusion and explain my game plan. Once you read it I think you'll have a better idea of how I do things. I give you credit for your ability to look at this from a different angle. You've obviously been there before :)


Here's how I handled the situations. I learned a TON of stuff, and hopefully this will help you guys out.


1. You have a a date set up with a girl for Friday, and you call her Friday morning to discuss the time and place. She says, "Oh Im soooo sorrrrrrry...I totally forgot and I let them schedule me to work. I feel sooooo bad"...

BUT she doesn't say anything about rescheduling.


+++++++Like the next two this really happened to me. I waited while she gave me her excuses, gave me her apologies, and waited some more....But...

No Offer to Reschedule!

All was silent, and then...

I came up with one of the best lines of my life!

I said, "Ok, Now this is the part where you offer to reschedule, and you pick the time and day. But I'll pick the place."

She said, "Oh Ok. How about Monday? My work is closed on Mondays so I can't mess it up!"

We made plans for Monday and the rest is history.



2. You have a first date set up and the girl is supposed to meet you at your house. She calls you an hour before and asks if she can meet you at the restaurant downtown.


+++++++This REALLY threw me, because I'd never had it happen before, and I have a whole plan laid out that I use every time. (I'll explain further in the next post). I thought fast and said, "Oh I seeeeee...."

"What?"

"You don't want to know where I live, cause you know you wouldn't be able to resist stalking me. I get it"

"Hahahahaaa...Yeah that's it. Actually I have to take my friend to her car and I'd probably be late getting to your house and I didn't want to do that." (B.S.!)

"Ok, well meet me there at 6:30 then instead of 6:00 so we both have some extra time."

"Ok that sounds perfect."

She was STILL 20 minutes late, which is a different story all together. I should have followed Dr Zauis' advice and been late myself.

This was a tough one, but I thought I handled it ok.


3. You are on a first date, and after dinner and drinks she says, "Hey I have some friends over at Daddy's Bar and Grill...Let's go over there at meet up with them!"

+++++++My response was similar to Oscars. You can't be rude in these situations or you look like you CARE too much. No challenge. I said, "That sounds fun, but I've got some work to do that I've been putting off for too long. I can drop you off there if you want though...It's no problem."

"No, it's ok. Ill go back with you. (Her car was at my house...All part of my game plan).

Now I don't know about you guys, but when a girl comes back to my house after a date...

Heheehahahahahahahhaaaa!
 
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Vassago,

Great work on all three counts. Cases 1 and 2 were classic ****y/funny. And you played Case 3 like a pro.

Vassago, you seem to have a personality-based style. You have quick wit and you used it the throw these girls curves that they don't expect. Its almost as if you purposely leave yourself open for sh!t tests just so you can prove that you can handle them.

In contrast, my style is more action-based. I tend to take more preventive measures learned from experience to maintain my own level of desirability, such that a girl is not as compelled to give as many sh!t tests.

Good quiz, Vassago. At least I know my DJ knowledge is still sharp. I'm engaged so I'm not in the singles game anymore. However, playing doubles (LTR, marriage) is a whole other quiz in itself. I'll post on that later.

Note to Newbies: THIS is what the site is about. Guys getting experience IN THE FIELD then trading notes.
 

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1. Tell her I don't have time to play her games (or something similar) and Next her.

2. Ask her what time she'll be there, arrive 15 minutes after that, give her 5 minutes to show up, then it's nothin' but NEXT!

3. I'm unsure. (Daddy's Bar and Grill is a restaurant, right?) ...I'd probably ask her if her friends are cute girls, and if not, say I don't feel like it or something. lol
 

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1. I was kind of hoping you'd say that. See one of the girls just came from another state/country/city, and wanted a tour of town. So it kind of all works out....bye!
(anything to show you gotta a life...)

2. I'll pick you up, BE READY!

3. Less go! (Elicit Values and have fun!)
 
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